EPTI can't blame Blizzard much in the end, the vast majority of fault lies with MLG. No one should be happy with it, no one should accept it and say "oh well next time lol" MLG have been in this business longer than anyone else in North America, there's no excuses for this.
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
I can't blame Blizzard much in the end, the vast majority of fault lies with MLG. No one should be happy with it, no one should accept it and say "oh well next time lol" MLG have been in this business longer than anyone else in North America, there's no excuses for this. | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
On April 23 2013 00:49 nihlon wrote: So do you people not believe Blizzard are a part of rushing this whole thing like crazy? It's a bit weird not to put some blame of Blizzard when we wouldn't have this format without their participation and it certainly wouldn't have happened so soon. Blizzard is def part of the problem, but it's more of a whole problem rather than just WCS NA. | ||
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Esoterikk
Canada1256 Posts
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On April 23 2013 00:49 floor exercise wrote: Blizzard's idea was a good one I think, letting established leagues/tournaments run the qualifiers, but they made a huge error in judgement in entrusting MLG to it. They have always seemed far more interested in squeezing out competition (IPL, now NASL) than ever actually delivering a superior product. It's clear they cut corners and did as little work as they thought they could get away with here. I can't blame Blizzard much in the end, the vast majority of fault lies with MLG. No one should be happy with it, no one should accept it and say "oh well next time lol" MLG have been in this business longer than anyone else in North America, there's no excuses for this. I fail to see how MLG had a part in pushing out IPL. IPL fell because of their desire to sell their brand and to transition to a different role, as well as the fact that their tournaments were not profitable yet. MLG didn't cause the fall of IPL hardly at all. I also find it hard to believe that you can push out competition with an inferior product. MLG hasn't been horrible befor this, they made some mistakes(PPV, extended series) but they rectified those issues before. All the problems of this joke of a qualified put them in a horrible light now but they weren't bad by any stretch before this. | ||
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Dracid
United States280 Posts
On April 22 2013 23:52 Type|NarutO wrote: Twitter Sundance/Me: Sundance DiGiovanni @MLGSundance 4h Statement from MLG this morning regarding the WCS events of this past weekend. Not saying it was perfect but lots of bad info flying about. Expand Silvano Bovo Silvano Bovo @NarutOSC2 4h @MLGSundance Calling it 'not perfect' is an insult to the community to begin with. Expand Sundance DiGiovanni Sundance DiGiovanni @MLGSundance 4h @NarutOSC2 insult? Really? Somehow we don't see eye to eye on this. Did we make mistakes? Yes. Will we fix them? Yes. Expand Silvano Bovo Silvano Bovo @NarutOSC2 24s @MLGSundance My statement might be a bit harsh, always supported you but those mistakes seem to be unfixable. Waiting for the statement. So I guess we'll have to wait. Really curious on how they are planning to fix it. Yeah, I don't see any way for them to "fix" this. Run a second qualifier? Not fair to the people who have already qualified. Anything else? Not fair to the Chinese (among other) pros who weren't allowed a chance to qualify, nor to the people knocked down by Comm, Physicslee, or Hyun. "We'll do things better next time"? Not good enough. The point totals add up; missing out on a season puts you at a signification disadvantage for making it to the grand finals. Personally, I'd prefer a second qualifier still given how thoroughly this one was messed up, but I highly, highly, doubt that will happen. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
Tweet Mike tell him how you didnt like WCS NA qualifer, and then blizzard will investigate all of the fuckups of organization they employed (MLG). | ||
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smogg
Bulgaria167 Posts
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lue
Sweden27 Posts
On April 23 2013 00:55 Dracid wrote: Yeah, I don't see any way for them to "fix" this. Run a second qualifier? Not fair to the people who have already qualified. Anything else? Not fair to the Chinese (among other) pros who weren't allowed a chance to qualify, nor to the people knocked down by Comm, Physicslee, or Hyun. "We'll do things better next time"? Not good enough. The point totals add up; missing out on a season puts you at a signification disadvantage for making it to the grand finals. Personally, I'd prefer a second qualifier still given how thoroughly this one was messed up, but I highly, highly, doubt that will happen. A second qualifier where the top 8 from this qualifier gets to face off against the top 8 of the second qualifier would be just fine. That said, MLG should've just manned up and said "Ok we derped, we'll do better next time tho!" | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5226 Posts
On April 23 2013 01:32 lue wrote: A second qualifier where the top 8 from this qualifier gets to face off against the top 8 of the second qualifier would be just fine. That said, MLG should've just manned up and said "Ok we derped, we'll do better next time tho!" That is actually a really good idea. Too good to ever happen, but a good idea. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On April 23 2013 00:49 floor exercise wrote: Blizzard's idea was a good one I think, letting established leagues/tournaments run the qualifiers, but they made a huge error in judgement in entrusting MLG to it. They have always seemed far more interested in squeezing out competition (IPL, now NASL) than ever actually delivering a superior product. It's clear they cut corners and did as little work as they thought they could get away with here. I can't blame Blizzard much in the end, the vast majority of fault lies with MLG. No one should be happy with it, no one should accept it and say "oh well next time lol" MLG have been in this business longer than anyone else in North America, there's no excuses for this. No, it is Blizzard's fault for rushing this so much. | ||
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stew_
Canada239 Posts
master league (in this case, na server) over 1000 points this would filter out so much of the people that either dont play on na or diamond and below players who really dont deserve to compete at this level. | ||
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Dracid
United States280 Posts
On April 23 2013 01:32 lue wrote: A second qualifier where the top 8 from this qualifier gets to face off against the top 8 of the second qualifier would be just fine. That said, MLG should've just manned up and said "Ok we derped, we'll do better next time tho!" You know, I'd be completely okay with that. I don't think that will happen, but hey, maybe Sundance will prove me wrong. | ||
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
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Msr
Korea (South)495 Posts
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shelfofjustice
Canada24 Posts
On April 22 2013 23:44 s3rp wrote: What i don't get about the whole Hyun fiasco is why the fuck did anybody actually play games against him ? It should've been perfectly clear to anyone that he wouldn't be allowed in this. My first reaction upon seeing Hyun as an opponent would've been "hmm something ain't right here , better contact an admin" . You would've been waiting a good hour+ to get ahold of one and probably gotten walked over in the meantime. Admins were extremely undermanned for this event. | ||
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Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
Fuck you MLG, you're ruining Esports. | ||
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
On April 23 2013 01:47 magnaflow wrote: The only way to rectify this now is to redo the qualifiers for season 2 That will generate more problems rather than fix it. It's too unfair for those who already qualified. It's an unfixable situation. | ||
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bulletbill
Canada33 Posts
example: Korea 512 single elim ladder 1st in line is esf players 2nd is kespa 3rd is (korean region) master/gms with over i think at least 200-400 points 4th is any fuckin body (if theres room) for NA 1st could be na based teams 2nd could be anyone on a pro team 3rd (na region) would be the same masters/gms over 200-400 points 4th any fucking body (if there's room) for Europe 1st Europe based teams 2nd any team 3rd (Europe region) masters/gms over 200-400 points 4th any fucking body (if there's room) with this entry system in place we have the players that deserve and also have a chance at winning the qualifier in the qualifier. Also this would eliminate the chances of players ALREADY IN CODE S to not be able to participate etc. | ||
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smogg
Bulgaria167 Posts
On April 23 2013 01:50 Rhaegar_tar wrote: Apparently MLG chose to do the challenger qualifiers at the same time as Dreamhack, which means that players will have to choose between the two events( most players will choose the MLG qualfiers obviously). Fuck you MLG, you're ruining Esports. *sigh* It's not entirely MLG's fault, but it is pretty sad. | ||
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