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On April 22 2013 23:39 Richard4021 wrote:
I believe Hyun should be ban from Korean region WCS compitetition for mess up other region qualifier. MLG should bring it to the WCS admin..
While I believe Hyun was partially at fault for signing up and playing for the wrong qualifier, the bigger fault lies in MLG for letting him play, then being indecisive whether or not to DQ him. Just incompetent.
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Are MLG admins employees or volunteers ?
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Twitter Sundance/Me:
Sundance DiGiovanni @MLGSundance 4h
Statement from MLG this morning regarding the WCS events of this past weekend. Not saying it was perfect but lots of bad info flying about.
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Silvano Bovo Silvano Bovo @NarutOSC2 4h
@MLGSundance Calling it 'not perfect' is an insult to the community to begin with.
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Sundance DiGiovanni Sundance DiGiovanni @MLGSundance 4h
@NarutOSC2 insult? Really? Somehow we don't see eye to eye on this. Did we make mistakes? Yes. Will we fix them? Yes.
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Silvano Bovo Silvano Bovo @NarutOSC2 24s
@MLGSundance My statement might be a bit harsh, always supported you but those mistakes seem to be unfixable. Waiting for the statement.
So I guess we'll have to wait. Really curious on how they are planning to fix it.
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On April 22 2013 23:51 Eartz wrote:
Are MLG admins employees or volunteers ?
Only hardened non-Communist are allowed to be MLG admins.
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On April 22 2013 23:38 Fischbacher wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 23:37 riyanme wrote:
Can somebody clarrify me on this issue....
Are those KO players who choose to play in WCS America are ALLOWED ONLY to play on this server and of the same registered/declared account?
What I'm trying to say is that even though KO are in WCS America, are they really helping the NA players improve their game by restrictedly playing/practicing on the same server. Perhaps the region lock is on tournaments basis only and not the ladder ones. The lock only means they can't compete in WCS Korea or Europe. There is no other restriction. No way in hell those players are practising on NA.
Jumping out of the bandwagon, NA peeps should take it as a challenge for them to enjoy rather than compete to earn / for fame.
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WCS was a label then. Masking over main tourneys in KO, NA and EU. Yet they somehow standardized the even distribution of prize money and point system, making DH and WCG as side shows???
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I'm curious as to what the FIX will be. Can they compensate the chinese players somehow?
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I don't think they can really fix it without unqualifying someone or uninviting someone from the tournament.
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I just wrote MLG:
Hello
I just want to inform that I will never buy anything connected to MLG due to how you handled
the WCG qualifier if no official apologize is realesed.
- Leaving the best chinese players out (WTF?!)
- Allowing hackers to play in the tournament
- Only having ONE stream
I seriously think any person with a little interest in the E-sport-scene had realised 512 spots with ANYONE allowed to sign up was a bad idea. But not you.
I am very disappointed in you, MLG.
//My Name
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Pretty big clusterfuck. Seems like MLG almost just threw it all together at the drop of a hat (akin to what iNcontroL said on SotG).
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I'm assuming he just means that next time around the same mistakes won't be made. Honestly, I don't really get what the rage is for now. You could have just gotten your rage out before the tournament, as none of this should come as a surprise now. There's no anti hack. Who knows how many hacked. But, it's moot since Koreans will take all spots, anyways.
They were originally charging 20 dollars for entry = not many people would be playing in the tournament given 0 odds and 0 ways to prevent cheating from f'ing you over. Removing the entry fee = they're now actually forced to run a tournament that 1 afk person couldn't handle.
Honestly, if they can run a tournament with so many issues and it's impossible to care, then there's probably a bigger issue.. No one should care about how it was run. Should care more that it took place at all. That's the real farce.
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On April 23 2013 00:16 playa wrote:
I'm assuming he just means that next time around the same mistakes won't be made. Honestly, I don't really get what the rage is for now. You could have just gotten your rage out before the tournament, as none of this should come as a surprise now. There's no anti hack. Who knows how many hacked. But, it's moot since Koreans will take all spots, anyways.
They were originally charging 20 dollars for entry = not many people would be playing in the tournament given 0 odds and 0 ways to prevent cheating from f'ing you over. Removing the entry fee = they're now actually forced to run a tournament that 1 afk person couldn't handle.
Honestly, if they can run a tournament with so many issues and it's impossible to care, then there's probably a bigger issue.. No one should care about how it was run. Should care more that it took place at all. That's the real farce.
If they would went with the tournament fee we would get 40 koreans in the bracket and 470 gold or plat leaguers.
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On April 23 2013 00:08 Glorfindel! wrote:
I just wrote MLG:
Hello
I just want to inform that I will never buy anything connected to MLG due to how you handled
the WCG qualifier if no official apologize is realesed.
- Leaving the best chinese players out (WTF?!)
- Allowing hackers to play in the tournament
- Only having ONE stream
I seriously think any person with a little interest in the E-sport-scene had realised 512 spots with ANYONE allowed to sign up was a bad idea. But not you.
I am very disappointed in you, MLG.
//My Name
WCS =/= WCG
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Lets not forget everyone that Blizzard is also at fault here, MLG is at the whim of Blizzards decisions and people should be tweeting Mike Morhaim just as much as Sundance.
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On April 23 2013 00:08 Glorfindel! wrote:
I just wrote MLG:
Hello
I just want to inform that I will never buy anything connected to MLG due to how you handled
the WCG qualifier if no official apologize is realesed.
- Leaving the best chinese players out (WTF?!)
- Allowing hackers to play in the tournament
- Only having ONE stream
I seriously think any person with a little interest in the E-sport-scene had realised 512 spots with ANYONE allowed to sign up was a bad idea. But not you.
I am very disappointed in you, MLG.
//My Name
WCG is a whole different mess from WCS, two different tourneys =D
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On April 23 2013 00:36 Esoterikk wrote:
Lets not forget everyone that Blizzard is also at fault here, MLG is at the whim of Blizzards decisions and people should be tweeting Mike Morhaim just as much as Sundance.
The only way that Blizzard at fault is for the questionable decision of entrusting MLG with WCS NA. MLG's fuckups are their own.
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On April 23 2013 00:36 Esoterikk wrote:
Lets not forget everyone that Blizzard is also at fault here, MLG is at the whim of Blizzards decisions and people should be tweeting Mike Morhaim just as much as Sundance.
Why? Blizzard didn't run the tournament. They didn't let a hacker play through several rounds of a tournament. They didn't kick out a number of Chinese players for no apparent reason. They didn't let Hyun play in a premiere league qualifier for another reason. MLG screwed this up horribly from the start, not Blizzard.
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On April 23 2013 00:36 Esoterikk wrote:
Lets not forget everyone that Blizzard is also at fault here, MLG is at the whim of Blizzards decisions and people should be tweeting Mike Morhaim just as much as Sundance.
Blizzard made MLG have a 512 player limit and put no restriction on entrants or given a priority on PRO gamers?
Blizzard allowed hackers to get in, eliminate good players and then DQ him afterwards?
Blizzard let QuanticHyun go out, destroy lots of people, and only in the end DQ him for being in WCS Korea? (I mean, come on, this is Hyun, one of the most popular players out there, not even a nobody)
You're right, Blizzard let them do that.
You know, that's the biggest problem. We understand mistakes are made, but it's absolutely insulting that MLG does nothing, pleads ignorance and Sundance, the head of MLG, doesn't come out to acknowledge that mistakes were made, and this is what they're going to do to solve it. Instead of deflecting blame on others, figure out what THEY can do. Considering everything that's listed is something that MLG could've prevented or done something about... Simply put, the way MLG is handling this is exactly how I feel EA/Maxis handled SimCity, and it's absolutely awful.
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Can't wait for the wheat shows and sotg, drama= good twitch tv.
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I feel like Blizzard should've waited to do this whole thing. I mean honestly why start this shit 1/3 through the year? Give people more time to organize and get everything down and I bet this shit doesn't happen. GSL went fine because the only thing they did was rename it to WCS Korea. ESL and MLG had to essentially create events and god knows how much time they had to get everything down.
Oh and if HyuN knew he was breaking the rules he should get some form of punishment. It's just exploiting. That being said I'm sure Blizzard fucked up massively in getting players the information. Hell I bet they fucked up getting it to MLG. I mean it's not MLG's tournament, it's Blizzard's, and I bet MLG didn't know all the rules that well either.
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So do you people not believe Blizzard are a part of rushing this whole thing like crazy? It's a bit weird not to put some blame of Blizzard when we wouldn't have this format without their participation and it certainly wouldn't have happened so soon.
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