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On April 22 2013 22:43 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 19:35 nihlon wrote:
I think MLG have earned the benefit of doubt here. They made mistakes and I'm sure they'll own them and try to make it better. Since when did MLG become the devil in people's eyes? Hum... Since Dallas (Eagles, yay!). Or since it's ridiculous tournament system (which first was bad and now at best is "confusing")? Or "extended series"? Or since that ppv "stunt"? Or since "I get it". Or since non stop self advertisement? (Got Gold? uagh...) Or tons and tons of downtime with endless crowdshots with the underlying endless guitar riffs? . . I'm actually surpised people are surprised about this most recent fuckup... Seriously, MLG has done so many errors... I still don't get (it  ) why some people can think back and have the opinion that NASL was EVER worse... It wasn't, it was just overhyped but alltogether they allways delivered a more "solid" product (which was oversized/overenthuastic... but never truely "bad").
While you might argue about the MLG system and their mistakes, they really did never fuck up in such a major way. I will jump on the bandwagon with this incident and bash them, because they deserve it, but they really don't deserve that this qualifier is named as their standard quality.
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On April 22 2013 21:56 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 21:53 riyanme wrote:
Is WCS AMERICA done already? Who's in and who's out? Liquipedia doesnt say anything... According to reddit its... + Show Spoiler +Alive, Revival, Heart, Apocalypse, TheSTC, Alicia, Oz, Crank
Thanks. So the top 16 would be 14 KO, 1 CN and 1 NA? Good lord... If this is the first result of the so called WCS "AMERICA" then the next season would be worse assuming the second wave of "EXODUS". More likely the EU would be the only place we can call "foreigner haven".
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On April 22 2013 22:57 riyanme wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 21:56 Frankon wrote:On April 22 2013 21:53 riyanme wrote:
Is WCS AMERICA done already? Who's in and who's out? Liquipedia doesnt say anything... According to reddit its... + Show Spoiler +Alive, Revival, Heart, Apocalypse, TheSTC, Alicia, Oz, Crank Thanks. So the top 16 would be 14 KO, 1 CN and 1 NA? Good lord... If this is the first result of the so called WCS "AMERICA" then the next season would be worse assuming the second wave of "EXODUS". More likely the EU would be the only place we can call "foreigner haven".
Some NA players already decided to play on EU because of that. ^.^"
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On April 22 2013 22:57 riyanme wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 21:56 Frankon wrote:On April 22 2013 21:53 riyanme wrote:
Is WCS AMERICA done already? Who's in and who's out? Liquipedia doesnt say anything... According to reddit its... + Show Spoiler +Alive, Revival, Heart, Apocalypse, TheSTC, Alicia, Oz, Crank Thanks. So the top 16 would be 14 KO, 1 CN and 1 NA? Good lord... If this is the first result of the so called WCS "AMERICA" then the next season would be worse assuming the second wave of "EXODUS". More likely the EU would be the only place we can call "foreigner haven".
In the top 16 it's 3 CN(including the 1 DQ'd), 1 EU, 1 NA, 11 KR.
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Oh the horror. MLG messed up a qualifier...now 10 or so good players missed out on a .02% chance to make it through a 500 man SC2 tournament. And *gasp* they didn't allow community casters to stream all the games!! This is almost worse than the Boston bombings. Fuck it, it is worse. That's why I'm gonna use harsher language and get more riled up about this than I do about real problems.
Lol c'mon people...check your tone. Gamers complain way too much.
User was temp banned for this post.
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This was a horrible, horrible disaster.
What a fuck up.
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On April 22 2013 23:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Oh the horror. MLG messed up a qualifier...now 10 or so good players missed out on a .02% chance to make it through a 500 man SC2 tournament. And *gasp* they didn't allow community casters to stream all the games!! This is almost worse than the Boston bombings. Fuck it, it is worse. That's why I'm gonna use harsher language and get more riled up about this than I do about real problems.
Lol c'mon people...check your tone. Gamers complain way too much.
How about checking your own tone, you are the one comparing this to the Boston bombings after all.
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On April 22 2013 23:22 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 23:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Oh the horror. MLG messed up a qualifier...now 10 or so good players missed out on a .02% chance to make it through a 500 man SC2 tournament. And *gasp* they didn't allow community casters to stream all the games!! This is almost worse than the Boston bombings. Fuck it, it is worse. That's why I'm gonna use harsher language and get more riled up about this than I do about real problems.
Lol c'mon people...check your tone. Gamers complain way too much. How about checking your own tone, you are the one comparing this to the Boston bombings after all.
I dont get why he keeps posting in these threads if it matters so little. He just keeps posting the same stuff over and over but he also doesnt care
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On April 22 2013 23:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Oh the horror. MLG messed up a qualifier...now 10 or so good players missed out on a .02% chance to make it through a 500 man SC2 tournament. And *gasp* they didn't allow community casters to stream all the games!! This is almost worse than the Boston bombings. Fuck it, it is worse. That's why I'm gonna use harsher language and get more riled up about this than I do about real problems.
Lol c'mon people...check your tone. Gamers complain way too much.
You are complaining, too, about the people who complain. And sarcasm is not any better than rage.
The complaints are justified.
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On April 22 2013 23:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Oh the horror. MLG messed up a qualifier...now 10 or so good players missed out on a .02% chance to make it through a 500 man SC2 tournament. And *gasp* they didn't allow community casters to stream all the games!! This is almost worse than the Boston bombings. Fuck it, it is worse. That's why I'm gonna use harsher language and get more riled up about this than I do about real problems.
Lol c'mon people...check your tone. Gamers complain way too much.
And what did wise Doodsmack say: [Make fun by exaggerating], [the guys arbitrarily excluded would not have won anyway], [strawman the fact that casting was sub-par], [hyperbole some more using a sensitive topic to many], [belittle people in the thread], [hide cheaters being allowed to play, arbitrary admin actions that delegitimize the bracket and take away people's right to compete (Comm), terrible bracket management, etc]
Either think your post through and respond to the actual points, or don't post. If you're happy to watch such a tournament, go ahead. But this was one of the worst viewer and competitor experiences in years and I, for one, don't want the best SC2 has to offer to be so bad.
Edit: And he's banned before I finish my response.
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Report button > Doodsmack, I guess back to topic and ignore the very low taste post of him.
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On April 22 2013 23:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Oh the horror. MLG messed up a qualifier...now 10 or so good players missed out on a .02% chance to make it through a 500 man SC2 tournament. And *gasp* they didn't allow community casters to stream all the games!! This is almost worse than the Boston bombings. Fuck it, it is worse. That's why I'm gonna use harsher language and get more riled up about this than I do about real problems.
Lol c'mon people...check your tone. Gamers complain way too much.
Yeah, so let's use viewers when it's useful (i.e. when looking for sponsors "please, tweet to my sponsor your support even if you don't know them or haven't bought any of their products") but ignore them when they say something is wrong.
The community often overreacts (in good and bad fashion), it's a fact, but that's how it is.
Also,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
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Can somebody clarrify me on this issue....
Are those KO players who choose to play in WCS America are ALLOWED ONLY to play on this server and of the same registered/declared account?
What I'm trying to say is that even though KO are in WCS America, are they really helping the NA players improve their game by restrictedly playing/practicing on the same server. Perhaps the region lock is on tournaments basis only and not the ladder ones.
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On April 22 2013 23:20 Undrass wrote:
This was a horrible, horrible disaster.
What a fuck up.
Agreed. MLG's actions have been pretty much inexcusable for an event of this caliber every step of the way.
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On April 22 2013 23:37 riyanme wrote:
Can somebody clarrify me on this issue....
Are those KO players who choose to play in WCS America are ALLOWED ONLY to play on this server and of the same registered/declared account?
What I'm trying to say is that even though KO are in WCS America, are they really helping the NA players improve their game by restrictedly playing/practicing on the same server. Perhaps the region lock is on tournaments basis only and not the ladder ones.
The lock only means they can't compete in WCS Korea or Europe. There is no other restriction.
No way in hell those players are practising on NA.
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I believe Hyun should be ban from Korean region WCS compitetition for mess up other region qualifier. MLG should bring it to the WCS admin..
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On April 22 2013 23:37 riyanme wrote:
Can somebody clarrify me on this issue....
Are those KO players who choose to play in WCS America are ALLOWED ONLY to play on this server and of the same registered/declared account?
What I'm trying to say is that even though KO are in WCS America, are they really helping the NA players improve their game by restrictedly playing/practicing on the same server. Perhaps the region lock is on tournaments basis only and not the ladder ones.
As far as I know it has nothing to do with regular ladder play.
How can they even enforce that? You could just have another account and play through a different IP (if Blizzard would even go that far!). On the other hand they could require you to "play at least X games on this acc to prove your activity in this region".
No.. no way :D, there is no such limitation and rule for laddering..
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On April 22 2013 21:56 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 21:53 riyanme wrote:
Is WCS AMERICA done already? Who's in and who's out? Liquipedia doesnt say anything... According to reddit its... + Show Spoiler +Alive, Revival, Heart, Apocalypse, TheSTC, Alicia, Oz, Crank
What a shame. We get to see Koreans in Proleague and the GSL, do we really also need to see them in WCS America?
The games I enjoyed the most were the ones between America GM's. Fun to follow the American scene.
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On April 22 2013 23:39 Richard4021 wrote:
I believe Hyun should be ban from Korean region WCS compitetition for mess up other region qualifier. MLG should bring it to the WCS admin..
And what should they say about themselves? They let a known hacker defeat several people in their own qualifier before they banned him. Should MLG ask the WCS admin to ban MLG?
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What i don't get about the whole Hyun fiasco is why the fuck did anybody actually play games against him ? It should've been perfectly clear to anyone that he wouldn't be allowed in this. My first reaction upon seeing Hyun as an opponent would've been "hmm something ain't right here , better contact an admin" .
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