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[Interview] 2013 WCS Korea S1 Qualifiers Day 2 - Page 2

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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 11 2013 15:16 GMT
#21
San the MAN, so cool.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
April 11 2013 15:16 GMT
#22
You will always be MANZenith in my heart, San. Thanks for the translations.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 11 2013 15:30 GMT
#23
Ha, the Korean equivalent of ManZenith/SadZenith is pretty funny. Glad Azubu had a good showing.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 11 2013 15:36 GMT
#24
I don't understand all this whine about terrans when there's 1 terran that made it through in this group
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 15:41:46
April 11 2013 15:41 GMT
#25
VINES whining about there being no way for Protoss to beat Zerg lategame.

Wat?

?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
April 11 2013 15:41 GMT
#26
On April 12 2013 00:36 c0ldfusion wrote:
I don't understand all this whine about terrans when there's 1 terran that made it through in this group

obviously all the terrans are already in code s amirite
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
April 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#27
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 11 2013 15:54 GMT
#28
On April 12 2013 00:45 Kasaraki wrote:
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.


Maybe he means he's struggling not to smash his head into his keyboard in frustration
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Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
April 11 2013 16:53 GMT
#29
Swim is going to be a royal roader, you heard it here first
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 11 2013 17:15 GMT
#30
On April 12 2013 00:54 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 00:45 Kasaraki wrote:
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.


Maybe he means he's struggling not to smash his head into his keyboard in frustration


Prity much sums it up there, and Grats to all qualified atleast ByuL addresses the coaches wife and the sponsors

good to see San making a return aswell.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 17:21:35
April 11 2013 17:20 GMT
#31
For a supposedly zerg UP and OP terran expansion, there sure are alot of zergs that qualified
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany833 Posts
April 11 2013 17:26 GMT
#32
You met jjakji in the finals.

I was expecting a really difficult game to ensue at first but then he went for an scv all in after he expanded. Thanks to that, I was able to take an easier victory than expected (laughs).


Seems that jjakji is not very confident in HotS when he risks something like that when everything is on the line vs some unknown, no matter how good he may actually be

"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 17:37:45
April 11 2013 17:33 GMT
#33
On April 12 2013 00:54 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 00:45 Kasaraki wrote:
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.


Maybe he means he's struggling not to smash his head into his keyboard in frustration

I don't want to sound like an asshole, but playing Starcraft 2 should actually be a "physical battle". See all the Terrans that got their physical condition fucked up (Mvp, Taeja, formerly Flash, etc..), probably because of the straining shit you have to do with your mouse. As far as I know, it never happened to a pro Zerg before. Not that I'm wishing for Zerg players to hurt themselves playing against widow mines, but their (and your) current mindset could be explained by the relative ease of the WoL ZvT matchup.

In short, welcome back to Starcraft, dear Zerg fellows, it's a hard game for everyone.

I know I'm going to get shit for this, but it doesn't sound unreasonable to me that if suddenly, GSL Zerg goes from 65% TvZ winrate (see maps like Daybreak) and mass ZvZ finals to a 45% winrate slightly Terran-favored matchup, it will seem to them like the game became monstrously harder, even if it's still fairly balanced.
I'm not saying that widow mines or whatnot are not a problem currently, but this "Terran so fucking imba" sounds a bit hypocritical when at the end of the day, Zerg and Protoss strongly dominated the qualifiers.

Edit: Here's the full list: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Korea_GSL/Qualifier
So many Terrans and so few Zergs Q_Q :'( T-T ;_;
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria925 Posts
April 11 2013 17:40 GMT
#34
Nice work Seeker!
Livin' this life like it was written.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
April 11 2013 18:29 GMT
#35
On April 12 2013 02:33 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 00:54 lichter wrote:
On April 12 2013 00:45 Kasaraki wrote:
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.


Maybe he means he's struggling not to smash his head into his keyboard in frustration

I don't want to sound like an asshole, but playing Starcraft 2 should actually be a "physical battle". See all the Terrans that got their physical condition fucked up (Mvp, Taeja, formerly Flash, etc..), probably because of the straining shit you have to do with your mouse. As far as I know, it never happened to a pro Zerg before.

(Z)GGPlay had to retire because of CTS :/
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 19:08:27
April 11 2013 19:07 GMT
#36
On April 12 2013 03:29 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 02:33 ZenithM wrote:
On April 12 2013 00:54 lichter wrote:
On April 12 2013 00:45 Kasaraki wrote:
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.


Maybe he means he's struggling not to smash his head into his keyboard in frustration

I don't want to sound like an asshole, but playing Starcraft 2 should actually be a "physical battle". See all the Terrans that got their physical condition fucked up (Mvp, Taeja, formerly Flash, etc..), probably because of the straining shit you have to do with your mouse. As far as I know, it never happened to a pro Zerg before.

(Z)GGPlay had to retire because of CTS :/

I was kinda talking about SC2, but me mentioning Flash (who I believe got his wrist problems in BW and had surgery before SC2) might have made that unclear.

TLO also got serious CTS while playing Terran. I don't know if it got easier, and if it had anything to do with him switching to Zerg.
I think it's quite true that Zerg's APM output is more balanced between keyboard and mouse, while Terran's APM are more mouse biased. And as it's often the mouse hand which is the limiting factor as to how soon you hurt when you play with a bad position, Terrans have a tendency to hurt their wrists more (disregard Goody).

You got to honestly admit that WoL Zerg's Queens into mass infestors, Broodlords and spine crawlers didn't seem like the most mouse intensive shit ever...
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
April 11 2013 19:15 GMT
#37
On April 11 2013 14:43 Seeker wrote:
oDin hyung mind controlled me

GSL needs a rules revision and state that mind controlling other players counts as cheating.
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
April 11 2013 19:18 GMT
#38
AFROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TOSS
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 11 2013 19:19 GMT
#39
Why no Golden interview?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
April 11 2013 19:34 GMT
#40
On April 12 2013 04:19 sitromit wrote:
Why no Golden interview?

It's long as hell and I need to go back to work soon. So I'm doing all the short ones with the limited time I have.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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