• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:06
CEST 11:06
KST 18:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?83Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!41Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game SC4ALL: II Winner Will Earn a Spot at HSC 30! Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) September World Ranking: herO leads, Serral climbs
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly SC2 INu's Battles#20 [BO.9]
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 Brood War in Budapest ! WORTEX 2026 BW Finals KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6732 users

[Interview] 2013 WCS Korea S1 Qualifiers Day 2 - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 11 2013 15:16 GMT
#21
San the MAN, so cool.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
April 11 2013 15:16 GMT
#22
You will always be MANZenith in my heart, San. Thanks for the translations.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 11 2013 15:30 GMT
#23
Ha, the Korean equivalent of ManZenith/SadZenith is pretty funny. Glad Azubu had a good showing.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 11 2013 15:36 GMT
#24
I don't understand all this whine about terrans when there's 1 terran that made it through in this group
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 15:41:46
April 11 2013 15:41 GMT
#25
VINES whining about there being no way for Protoss to beat Zerg lategame.

Wat?

?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 11 2013 15:41 GMT
#26
On April 12 2013 00:36 c0ldfusion wrote:
I don't understand all this whine about terrans when there's 1 terran that made it through in this group

obviously all the terrans are already in code s amirite
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
April 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#27
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 11 2013 15:54 GMT
#28
On April 12 2013 00:45 Kasaraki wrote:
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.


Maybe he means he's struggling not to smash his head into his keyboard in frustration
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
April 11 2013 16:53 GMT
#29
Swim is going to be a royal roader, you heard it here first
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 11 2013 17:15 GMT
#30
On April 12 2013 00:54 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 00:45 Kasaraki wrote:
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.


Maybe he means he's struggling not to smash his head into his keyboard in frustration


Prity much sums it up there, and Grats to all qualified atleast ByuL addresses the coaches wife and the sponsors

good to see San making a return aswell.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 17:21:35
April 11 2013 17:20 GMT
#31
For a supposedly zerg UP and OP terran expansion, there sure are alot of zergs that qualified
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany833 Posts
April 11 2013 17:26 GMT
#32
You met jjakji in the finals.

I was expecting a really difficult game to ensue at first but then he went for an scv all in after he expanded. Thanks to that, I was able to take an easier victory than expected (laughs).


Seems that jjakji is not very confident in HotS when he risks something like that when everything is on the line vs some unknown, no matter how good he may actually be

"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 17:37:45
April 11 2013 17:33 GMT
#33
On April 12 2013 00:54 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 00:45 Kasaraki wrote:
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.


Maybe he means he's struggling not to smash his head into his keyboard in frustration

I don't want to sound like an asshole, but playing Starcraft 2 should actually be a "physical battle". See all the Terrans that got their physical condition fucked up (Mvp, Taeja, formerly Flash, etc..), probably because of the straining shit you have to do with your mouse. As far as I know, it never happened to a pro Zerg before. Not that I'm wishing for Zerg players to hurt themselves playing against widow mines, but their (and your) current mindset could be explained by the relative ease of the WoL ZvT matchup.

In short, welcome back to Starcraft, dear Zerg fellows, it's a hard game for everyone.

I know I'm going to get shit for this, but it doesn't sound unreasonable to me that if suddenly, GSL Zerg goes from 65% TvZ winrate (see maps like Daybreak) and mass ZvZ finals to a 45% winrate slightly Terran-favored matchup, it will seem to them like the game became monstrously harder, even if it's still fairly balanced.
I'm not saying that widow mines or whatnot are not a problem currently, but this "Terran so fucking imba" sounds a bit hypocritical when at the end of the day, Zerg and Protoss strongly dominated the qualifiers.

Edit: Here's the full list: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Korea_GSL/Qualifier
So many Terrans and so few Zergs Q_Q :'( T-T ;_;
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria925 Posts
April 11 2013 17:40 GMT
#34
Nice work Seeker!
Livin' this life like it was written.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37108 Posts
April 11 2013 18:29 GMT
#35
On April 12 2013 02:33 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 00:54 lichter wrote:
On April 12 2013 00:45 Kasaraki wrote:
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.


Maybe he means he's struggling not to smash his head into his keyboard in frustration

I don't want to sound like an asshole, but playing Starcraft 2 should actually be a "physical battle". See all the Terrans that got their physical condition fucked up (Mvp, Taeja, formerly Flash, etc..), probably because of the straining shit you have to do with your mouse. As far as I know, it never happened to a pro Zerg before.

(Z)GGPlay had to retire because of CTS :/
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 19:08:27
April 11 2013 19:07 GMT
#36
On April 12 2013 03:29 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 02:33 ZenithM wrote:
On April 12 2013 00:54 lichter wrote:
On April 12 2013 00:45 Kasaraki wrote:
I like the way ByuL describes TvZ as a "physical battle", sums up the new ZvT style very well.


Maybe he means he's struggling not to smash his head into his keyboard in frustration

I don't want to sound like an asshole, but playing Starcraft 2 should actually be a "physical battle". See all the Terrans that got their physical condition fucked up (Mvp, Taeja, formerly Flash, etc..), probably because of the straining shit you have to do with your mouse. As far as I know, it never happened to a pro Zerg before.

(Z)GGPlay had to retire because of CTS :/

I was kinda talking about SC2, but me mentioning Flash (who I believe got his wrist problems in BW and had surgery before SC2) might have made that unclear.

TLO also got serious CTS while playing Terran. I don't know if it got easier, and if it had anything to do with him switching to Zerg.
I think it's quite true that Zerg's APM output is more balanced between keyboard and mouse, while Terran's APM are more mouse biased. And as it's often the mouse hand which is the limiting factor as to how soon you hurt when you play with a bad position, Terrans have a tendency to hurt their wrists more (disregard Goody).

You got to honestly admit that WoL Zerg's Queens into mass infestors, Broodlords and spine crawlers didn't seem like the most mouse intensive shit ever...
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
April 11 2013 19:15 GMT
#37
On April 11 2013 14:43 Seeker wrote:
oDin hyung mind controlled me

GSL needs a rules revision and state that mind controlling other players counts as cheating.
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
April 11 2013 19:18 GMT
#38
AFROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TOSS
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 11 2013 19:19 GMT
#39
Why no Golden interview?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37108 Posts
April 11 2013 19:34 GMT
#40
On April 12 2013 04:19 sitromit wrote:
Why no Golden interview?

It's long as hell and I need to go back to work soon. So I'm doing all the short ones with the limited time I have.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 54m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 54
MindelVK 13
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 1245
actioN 577
Stork 332
Killer 227
Larva 189
Hyuk 99
sSak 95
Shinee 78
soO 74
Sharp 44
[ Show more ]
Yoon 40
Bale 33
Noble 11
hero 10
Dota 2
XcaliburYe361
resolut1ontv 249
Fuzer 166
League of Legends
JimRising 612
Counter-Strike
byalli1141
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King156
Other Games
gofns15847
singsing1575
XaKoH 249
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1033
BasetradeTV113
[ Show 9 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1447
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
54m
OSC
2h 54m
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
5h 54m
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Patches Events
6h 54m
OSC
14h 54m
Afreeca Starleague
1d
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
1d 1h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 6h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
GSL
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Escore
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-02
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.