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WCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 40

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achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
April 03 2013 02:12 GMT
#781
On April 03 2013 11:11 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:05 ThomasR wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:04 snakeeyez wrote:
Yeah I have to say this is good overall to give each region something to shoot for and the best rise to the top. All the competitions now count for something.

no it wouldnt

it'd be just like the grandmaster system in different regions

getting GM in NA / EU is not much as an accomplishment as getting GM in korea

But it will let us see inter-region battles. Where foreigners ended in large tournaments were much more to do with what Koreans you hit than your skill-level. I would love to see a somewhat accurate picture of the NA scene. Is Minigun or Illusion the best? What about Demuslim? How does Idra stack up, is he even top8 when it comes to the NA scene?

Also GM means very little because ladder is a terrible indicator of skill.

Not that it matters. Any of them will get slaughtered by EU players, let alone Koreans.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
April 03 2013 02:12 GMT
#782
On April 03 2013 11:09 geokilla wrote:
Anyone got the thinking that smaller tournaments will disappear? NASL and Iron Squid...

NASL should be fine regardless of not being sponsored by WCS because it functioned well as an independent tournament. Iron Squid also attracted a ton of viewers and respect.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 03 2013 02:12 GMT
#783
On April 03 2013 11:12 lichter wrote:
WCS Ro16 will just be 90% GSL Ro16. =/

It will just be like Polt returning to the GSL at Blizzcon
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 03 2013 02:12 GMT
#784
On April 03 2013 11:11 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:09 ninjamyst wrote:
y is everyone complaining about region locks? players can still attend NON WCS tournaments anywhere they want

Thing is, just NASL and DreamHack feels restricted compared to the absolute freedom players had before.


I think this will make Dreamhack THE tournament to watch though, because they will be one of the few ones with players from all regions.

MLGs? IEMs? etc.

Only WCS events are locked.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 03 2013 02:12 GMT
#785
On April 03 2013 11:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:09 ninjamyst wrote:
y is everyone complaining about region locks? players can still attend NON WCS tournaments anywhere they want

Thing is, just NASL and DreamHack feels restricted compared to the absolute freedom players had before.

I need to see the points before I make an opinion in the subject.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Maaasta
Profile Joined April 2010
61 Posts
April 03 2013 02:13 GMT
#786
Dreamhack probably hosting the eu final
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
April 03 2013 02:13 GMT
#787
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 02:13:17
April 03 2013 02:13 GMT
#788
On April 03 2013 11:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Chinese scene takes another hit


Yes. Still important to remember:

Thomas Kilian ‏@Khaldor 26s
"Other tournament free to operate outside the system." - Probably one of the most important key messages. Everybody happy now? :-)


China hasn't been that active with the rest of the world when it comes to Starcraft 2.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 03 2013 02:13 GMT
#789
China and Australia?? no love for them =(
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 03 2013 02:13 GMT
#790
erik lonnquist ‏@ggDoA 1m

Basically OGN and GOM will have english casts of Code S/OSL going on simultaneously. We're still digesting it too.


Btw
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 02:15:09
April 03 2013 02:13 GMT
#791
On April 03 2013 11:11 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:05 ThomasR wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:04 snakeeyez wrote:
Yeah I have to say this is good overall to give each region something to shoot for and the best rise to the top. All the competitions now count for something.

no it wouldnt

it'd be just like the grandmaster system in different regions

getting GM in NA / EU is not much as an accomplishment as getting GM in korea

But it will let us see inter-region battles. Where foreigners ended in large tournaments were much more to do with what Koreans you hit than your skill-level. I would love to see a somewhat accurate picture of the NA scene. Is Minigun or Illusion the best? What about Demuslim? How does Idra stack up, is he even top8 when it comes to the NA scene?

Also GM means very little because ladder is a terrible indicator of skill.


i know it is, i was just using it as an example

what's the point of inter-region battles, when koreans are just going to dominate? all this is is blizzard putting a ban on koreans to participate in US/EU major tournaments so those in US/EU can actually win some prize money

edit: i know it's not really a ban, but essentially they're making it so that koreans have to fully commit to playing overseas in order to play in US/EU major tournies
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 02:14:03
April 03 2013 02:13 GMT
#792
Who cares about China? they are isolationist.
No free market, no humanatarian rights, no SC2 for you.

Edit: @ to 2

User was temp banned for this post.
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TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 02:14:04
April 03 2013 02:13 GMT
#793
So, now there won't be koreans in NA/EU tournaments anymore, except those koreans who will chose to get locked there for a whole year?
Sorry, but I'm not gonna watch it.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
April 03 2013 02:13 GMT
#794
TeamLiquid @TeamLiquidnet 48s

Players can can pick what region they want to play in. Not nationality restricted. But they are locked into the region they select.


Totalbiscuit @Totalbiscuit 1m

What's gonna be ridiculous is if Koreans try to play in the American/European leagues online because it's an easier field
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2013 02:14 GMT
#795
On April 03 2013 11:13 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
erik lonnquist ‏@ggDoA 1m

Basically OGN and GOM will have english casts of Code S/OSL going on simultaneously. We're still digesting it too.


Btw

So... who's not going to watch Tastosis?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
MChrome
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
April 03 2013 02:14 GMT
#796
So, Blizzard wants to be the new Kespa. Big surprise :/
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 03 2013 02:14 GMT
#797
On April 03 2013 11:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:12 lichter wrote:
WCS Ro16 will just be 90% GSL Ro16. =/

It will just be like Polt returning to the GSL at Blizzcon


I am just waiting for the GSL announcement (how many seasons)

I was really hoping for a Korean Mega Team League too :<
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 03 2013 02:14 GMT
#798
On April 03 2013 11:12 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:11 Dodgin wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:09 ninjamyst wrote:
y is everyone complaining about region locks? players can still attend NON WCS tournaments anywhere they want

Thing is, just NASL and DreamHack feels restricted compared to the absolute freedom players had before.


I think this will make Dreamhack THE tournament to watch though, because they will be one of the few ones with players from all regions.

MLGs? IEMs? etc.

Only WCS events are locked.


Yeah, people don't understand that MLG and IEM are RUNNING the WCS. MLG events and EIM events are still going on.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45176 Posts
April 03 2013 02:14 GMT
#799
On April 03 2013 11:13 Integra wrote:
China and Australia?? no love for them =(


The technology infrastructure wasn't there.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 03 2013 02:14 GMT
#800
I wonder if Hyun/Revival will play the EU or NA WCS series. I would if I was them.
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