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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27451 Posts
March 28 2013 04:47 GMT
#241
What so EG one of the only Western E-sports teams that actually appears to make money, should have to curtail their pickups because their business model appears to actually work?

The analogy with football in Europe is so off-base. A lot of that regulation pertains to sugar daddies, oligarchs and sheikhs who inject clubs with shitloads of money, to unsustainable degrees.
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rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
March 28 2013 04:50 GMT
#242
On March 28 2013 13:42 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 13:40 rj rl wrote:
And that's why you need the global organization (like gespa ) to set the rulings and avoid this shit when one team is suddenly rich and has a roster 10 times bigger than the average and keeps spending. The similar problem is now being dealt with by UEFA in football, rather poorly again.


Their Proleague roster is the smallest in the league...come on now this is just silly.

it's not like they've got a split team with TL eh? I'm comparing them to the foreign scene and no one there is barely close in terms of names. Why do these names not perform to their hype is a different problem. Obviously you can't set up a solid competitive roster in Proleague when all your big names are underperforming severely.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 04:54:14
March 28 2013 04:53 GMT
#243
On March 28 2013 13:40 rj rl wrote:
And that's why you need the global organization (like gespa ) to set the rulings and avoid this shit when one team is suddenly rich and has a roster 10 times bigger than the average and keeps spending. The similar problem is now being dealt with by UEFA in football, rather poorly again.


Ten times bigger than average?? So an average team only has 1-2 players on their team? Holy shit, rofl. Not to mention that EG has never been "suddenly rich" and has had their sustainable business model for years.
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 04:54:19
March 28 2013 04:53 GMT
#244
EG really doesn't have a knack for picking Korean players. I mean, Oz and Alive are both good players, but they're on a descending curve IMO. They'll never be as good as they once were, relative to other players.



MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
March 28 2013 04:57 GMT
#245
Biggest NA team giving up on foreign players, focusing on Korea? Also... dont know if I would go this route...why not wait for more Kespa Koreans who will be slowly overtaking the ESF.

How long are you considered a foreign team if you employ more korean pro's than foreign?
Cocoba
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada352 Posts
March 28 2013 04:57 GMT
#246
Change EG's name to TSL refugee center. Jokes aside, great pick up by EG. Oz and Alive were playing so well last year but I haven't heard much from them this season but hopefully that'll change come their proleague matches.
:D
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 28 2013 05:01 GMT
#247
On March 28 2013 13:50 rj rl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 13:42 Dodgin wrote:
On March 28 2013 13:40 rj rl wrote:
And that's why you need the global organization (like gespa ) to set the rulings and avoid this shit when one team is suddenly rich and has a roster 10 times bigger than the average and keeps spending. The similar problem is now being dealt with by UEFA in football, rather poorly again.


Their Proleague roster is the smallest in the league...come on now this is just silly.

it's not like they've got a split team with TL eh? I'm comparing them to the foreign scene and no one there is barely close in terms of names. Why do these names not perform to their hype is a different problem. Obviously you can't set up a solid competitive roster in Proleague when all your big names are underperforming severely.


Why are you comparing them to the foreign scene? It says in the announcement that these pickups are mainly to bolster their Proleague roster. Team competition outside Korea is a joke anyway so why does it matter what team the players are on? Big props to Take for this Teamstory Cup thing, before that all we had was online matches.
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
March 28 2013 05:01 GMT
#248
On March 28 2013 13:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
What so EG one of the only Western E-sports teams that actually appears to make money, should have to curtail their pickups because their business model appears to actually work?
The analogy with football in Europe is so off-base. A lot of that regulation pertains to sugar daddies, oligarchs and sheikhs who inject clubs with shitloads of money, to unsustainable degrees.

so you think it's their e-sport thing that earns them money? Sancta simplicitas, it's all about sponsors.

On March 28 2013 13:53 RuskiPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 13:40 rj rl wrote:
And that's why you need the global organization (like gespa ) to set the rulings and avoid this shit when one team is suddenly rich and has a roster 10 times bigger than the average and keeps spending. The similar problem is now being dealt with by UEFA in football, rather poorly again.


Ten times bigger than average?? So an average team only has 1-2 players on their team? Holy shit, rofl. Not to mention that EG has never been "suddenly rich" and has had their sustainable business model for years.

by roster i mean actually known names, not that roster consisting of mid GM nobodys. Please name me one EU team having at least couple of idra\stephano\jd\revival\huk\thorzain\oz\alive-caliber players.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
March 28 2013 05:05 GMT
#249
Congrats to EG. Holy roster Batman!
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
March 28 2013 05:05 GMT
#250
am i the only one saddened by this?
rip prime
APerfectDay
Profile Joined March 2013
11 Posts
March 28 2013 05:06 GMT
#251
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t e a C h e r
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada151 Posts
March 28 2013 05:07 GMT
#252
GRats to EG.

Alive is pretty sick and EGOZRC is kinda cool hahaha
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27451 Posts
March 28 2013 05:09 GMT
#253
On March 28 2013 14:01 rj rl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 13:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
What so EG one of the only Western E-sports teams that actually appears to make money, should have to curtail their pickups because their business model appears to actually work?
The analogy with football in Europe is so off-base. A lot of that regulation pertains to sugar daddies, oligarchs and sheikhs who inject clubs with shitloads of money, to unsustainable degrees.

so you think it's their e-sport thing that earns them money? Sancta simplicitas, it's all about sponsors.

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 13:53 RuskiPanda wrote:
On March 28 2013 13:40 rj rl wrote:
And that's why you need the global organization (like gespa ) to set the rulings and avoid this shit when one team is suddenly rich and has a roster 10 times bigger than the average and keeps spending. The similar problem is now being dealt with by UEFA in football, rather poorly again.


Ten times bigger than average?? So an average team only has 1-2 players on their team? Holy shit, rofl. Not to mention that EG has never been "suddenly rich" and has had their sustainable business model for years.

by roster i mean actually known names, not that roster consisting of mid GM nobodys. Please name me one EU team having at least couple of idra\stephano\jd\revival\huk\thorzain\oz\alive-caliber players.

Oh well shit son, I wasn't aware of the idea of sponsors funding EG. The same sponsors that I can pretty much list because EG actually publicise them well. The same sponsors that sponsor EG for that exposure. Oh but yeah put something in latin to ram home your redundant point in a smug fashion, a point that I am perfectly aware of.

Even in 'real' sports the team does not directly earn the biggest football teams their cash. Sponsorship and the TV deals that come with it, global fanbases and merchandising all have an effect as well.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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weeA
Profile Joined October 2010
India442 Posts
March 28 2013 05:09 GMT
#254
Nice pick ups!! How they do better in leagues now
Lim Yo Hwan I love U
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 28 2013 05:12 GMT
#255
On March 28 2013 14:01 rj rl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 13:47 Wombat_NI wrote:
What so EG one of the only Western E-sports teams that actually appears to make money, should have to curtail their pickups because their business model appears to actually work?
The analogy with football in Europe is so off-base. A lot of that regulation pertains to sugar daddies, oligarchs and sheikhs who inject clubs with shitloads of money, to unsustainable degrees.

so you think it's their e-sport thing that earns them money? Sancta simplicitas, it's all about sponsors.

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 13:53 RuskiPanda wrote:
On March 28 2013 13:40 rj rl wrote:
And that's why you need the global organization (like gespa ) to set the rulings and avoid this shit when one team is suddenly rich and has a roster 10 times bigger than the average and keeps spending. The similar problem is now being dealt with by UEFA in football, rather poorly again.


Ten times bigger than average?? So an average team only has 1-2 players on their team? Holy shit, rofl. Not to mention that EG has never been "suddenly rich" and has had their sustainable business model for years.

by roster i mean actually known names, not that roster consisting of mid GM nobodys. Please name me one EU team having at least couple of idra\stephano\jd\revival\huk\thorzain\oz\alive-caliber players.

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Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 28 2013 05:13 GMT
#256
On March 28 2013 14:06 APerfectDay wrote:
Cost Benefit Analysis:


How jdseemoreglass contributed to Teamliquid:

Contributed to SC2 strategy and understanding of Zerg opening trade-offs, ie.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=202464
Contributed to General Forum threads for interesting discussions with plenty of sources, ie.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244338
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=210665
Contributed to Blogs sections with humorous blogs
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=284518
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=215434
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=226263
Contributed hundreds of posts to General Forum with a minority political perspective.


How jdseemoreglass detracted from Teamliquid:

Criticized moderation.


Decision:

Permanent Ban.


.....?
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HiSi
Profile Joined October 2011
United States68 Posts
March 28 2013 05:16 GMT
#257
It is too bad Puma couldn't get the terms he wanted, EGTL would benefit from good practice partners.
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
March 28 2013 05:16 GMT
#258
How is EG affording all this...? Is the ROI actually good enough to support everything?
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
March 28 2013 05:16 GMT
#259
WAT teh fuk? dayyyum EG so rich all i gotta say... Oz one of my faz toss tho, best of luck :D!!!
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 28 2013 05:17 GMT
#260
I was thinking Geoff was kidding after watching the most recent Roll Play. Exciting that is happened congratulations to the players.
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