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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
March 18 2013 12:50 GMT
#41
On March 18 2013 21:12 Wildmoon wrote:
This is for the best. I have seen many times about how he doesn't like SC2 and doesn't think it's a good game but he played it for his own reasons. I was wondering back then how could you force yourself to do that? The difference in his play and the player who play with passion and enjoy the game such as Life show through their game. I don't need to say which is more fun to watch.


I'll be waiting for Idra's retirement announcement then.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
March 18 2013 12:54 GMT
#42
I guess he'll be back in one month and regret taking this 'break' .
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
March 18 2013 12:54 GMT
#43
Good riddens to be honest. Decent player but his narcistic tendencies were just annoying, constantly saying crap etc. about the game. I can agree the game sucks at some points but don't whine about it as a progamer.
He overrates his own skill by quite a bit as well imo..
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
March 18 2013 12:54 GMT
#44
On March 18 2013 21:50 fabiano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 21:12 Wildmoon wrote:
This is for the best. I have seen many times about how he doesn't like SC2 and doesn't think it's a good game but he played it for his own reasons. I was wondering back then how could you force yourself to do that? The difference in his play and the player who play with passion and enjoy the game such as Life show through their game. I don't need to say which is more fun to watch.


I'll be waiting for Idra's retirement announcement then.


It's not impossible if he keeps doing nothing result wise.
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
March 18 2013 12:55 GMT
#45
On March 18 2013 21:50 fabiano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 21:12 Wildmoon wrote:
This is for the best. I have seen many times about how he doesn't like SC2 and doesn't think it's a good game but he played it for his own reasons. I was wondering back then how could you force yourself to do that? The difference in his play and the player who play with passion and enjoy the game such as Life show through their game. I don't need to say which is more fun to watch.


I'll be waiting for Idra's retirement announcement then.


Idra gets money from drawing in viewers for his sponsors, his stream etc. Why quit when you earn good money.
But obviously, not enough people care about Cloud, that this would be possible for him. So it's a dead end.

Funny that some say he's a fucking asshole and other say he's a nice guy, right next to each other. Hardly anything in between.
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TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
March 18 2013 13:00 GMT
#46
I enjoyed your stream from time to time and your terran play. Your mouse precision is impressive. HF in your future endeavors.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
chukolna
Profile Joined February 2010
78 Posts
March 18 2013 13:02 GMT
#47
and not a single fuck was given that day

User was warned for this post
Grow up Raj, there's no place for truth on the Internet.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
March 18 2013 13:08 GMT
#48
I can't say I'll really miss him...

I mean... the guy has insulted (with horrible insults... not just something like "dumbass", balance whined... )

Well, good luck in the future anyway !
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VPVanek
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada238 Posts
March 18 2013 13:11 GMT
#49
Always liked watching your stream.
Goodluck in the future Cloud!
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butterstulle
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany20 Posts
March 18 2013 13:13 GMT
#50
what a shame, he always was a nice guy to talk to at the homestorycups
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
March 18 2013 13:19 GMT
#51
I don't think anyone will argue that Cloud didn't have a whole lot of character. Ever since he moved back to Italy I think some of us expected him to eventually quit. It wasn't a secret he didn't enjoy sc2 all that much. Love him or hate him, he was a noteworthy player in the EU community for a long long time.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
March 18 2013 13:23 GMT
#52
oh my gawd sc2 is dyeing

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Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
March 18 2013 13:26 GMT
#53
On March 18 2013 22:23 Doodsmack wrote:
oh my gawd sc2 is dyeing


Dyeing what? And in what color?


Hf with your new life Cloud.
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
March 18 2013 13:26 GMT
#54
On March 18 2013 21:35 BoYoB wrote:
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On March 18 2013 20:26 SarcasmMonster wrote:
I know very well within myself I could stand above any non korean progamer if I put enough dedication into it, but what kept me from doing so in Starcraft2 was the fact I don't enjoy playing this game at all.


... that's a terrible mentality


That guy is a joke.


You nailed it :D
mind mind mind mind mind mind
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 18 2013 13:34 GMT
#55
On March 18 2013 20:52 Zarahtra wrote:
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On March 18 2013 20:33 Plansix wrote:
On March 18 2013 20:28 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On March 18 2013 20:26 SarcasmMonster wrote:
I know very well within myself I could stand above any non korean progamer if I put enough dedication into it, but what kept me from doing so in Starcraft2 was the fact I don't enjoy playing this game at all.


... that's a terrible mentality

How so?


To paraphrase: "I know have the potential to be better than anyone(non-Korean) in the world, but I didn't like the game, so I quit"

It is close to blaming SC2 for why he didn't do well. He leaves it subjective by saying that he didn't "enjoy" the game, but he is still heaping the blame on SC2 rather than himself.

Well you are reading it like you want to read it. I read it more like "I didn't enjoy the game so I didn't put as much time/effort into it as required to excel", which is basically what his whole blog is about, how he loved BW and therefor he was putting a lot more effort into developing as a player.


We all can read what we want to read, that is why it is call interpretation and we have the phrase “reading between the lines”. But the attitude that “I didn’t do well because the game wasn’t as good as BW, that I loved”, while also claiming to be capable of being one of the best in the world, is a little hard to swallow. With players like Flash coming into the scene, who would accept the challenge of becoming the best at any RTS you put in front of them and Nanwai, who just wants to become the best no matter what, I have grown tired of people blaming SC2 for their woes.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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johnny123
Profile Joined February 2012
521 Posts
March 18 2013 13:43 GMT
#56
bleh, the little i do know of him was from homestory and his feud with Goody. About his skill level and passion for the game. Dont really care. Anybody that is getting stomped in sc2 would say the same thing, "dont have passion for the game etc etc".

well adios.
Favorite players,Stephano/MVP/Nestea/Gumiho/Life/Jaedong/MMA
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
March 18 2013 13:45 GMT
#57
Not a surprise
http://twitch.tv/maggrig | @SC2ELVIS | http://www.facebook.com/sc2ELVIS
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 13:47:52
March 18 2013 13:46 GMT
#58
Everyone who followed the german scene know him and what I know from him was always entertaining.
Sometimes in bad ways, sometimes in good ways.
None the less, due to all this negativity, i felt obligated to post that I will miss him.

Good luck in your future endavors.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Northern_iight
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada363 Posts
March 18 2013 13:50 GMT
#59
On March 18 2013 21:55 Kuni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 21:50 fabiano wrote:
On March 18 2013 21:12 Wildmoon wrote:
This is for the best. I have seen many times about how he doesn't like SC2 and doesn't think it's a good game but he played it for his own reasons. I was wondering back then how could you force yourself to do that? The difference in his play and the player who play with passion and enjoy the game such as Life show through their game. I don't need to say which is more fun to watch.


I'll be waiting for Idra's retirement announcement then.


Idra gets money from drawing in viewers for his sponsors, his stream etc. Why quit when you earn good money.
But obviously, not enough people care about Cloud, that this would be possible for him. So it's a dead end.

Funny that some say he's a fucking asshole and other say he's a nice guy, right next to each other. Hardly anything in between.


fabiano is being sarcastic.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3753 Posts
March 18 2013 13:52 GMT
#60
On March 18 2013 21:50 fabiano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 21:12 Wildmoon wrote:
This is for the best. I have seen many times about how he doesn't like SC2 and doesn't think it's a good game but he played it for his own reasons. I was wondering back then how could you force yourself to do that? The difference in his play and the player who play with passion and enjoy the game such as Life show through their game. I don't need to say which is more fun to watch.


I'll be waiting for Idra's retirement announcement then.

I think that IdrA - actually - would make pretty good coach. It's maybe a long shot but he seems to be very analytical about the game, has the best background among foreigners for that kind of job plus he nerve issues wouldn't be his issues.
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