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Coach Park appointed new head coach of EG-TL - Page 25

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iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
March 14 2013 18:20 GMT
#481
holy shit?!
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
March 14 2013 18:27 GMT
#482
A coach cannot make up for lack of skill unfortunately
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
March 14 2013 18:29 GMT
#483
On March 15 2013 03:27 Sc2Null wrote:
A coach cannot make up for lack of skill unfortunately

It definitely can if the coach brings a new practice schedule and more efficient decision making.
Elffi
Profile Joined September 2012
6 Posts
March 14 2013 18:30 GMT
#484
Coach just torpedoed his career. Even he can't overcome the curse
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
March 14 2013 18:33 GMT
#485
On March 13 2013 23:50 riotjune wrote:
Oh man, it's going to be like boot camp. Vacation's over guys


+1 Time to sweat for your paycheck bitches

j/k
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
March 14 2013 18:38 GMT
#486
On March 14 2013 19:42 niteReloaded wrote:
That guy always seemed so phony to me....... and like others said, it's not that hard to be a coach when your 'helpers' are boxer and oov, one of the strongest strategic minds in SC's history.


This must be what the mindmindmind song is about then.
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
March 14 2013 18:42 GMT
#487
On March 14 2013 22:15 teslar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 14 2013 21:34 Daswollvieh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 21:10 StarStruck wrote:
On March 14 2013 20:32 EpiK wrote:
On March 14 2013 20:04 Yello wrote:
Well, I don't think this will change anything for EG-TL in the near future, besides getting a surprising amount of people hyped for the team again.

If this coach can do anything at all then only after months of work. The team won't suddenly change from worst to best proleague team just because they got a new coach.

This feels a lot like European football to me: the team doesn't win -> hire a new coach
Sometimes that helps but it doesn't immediately change everything and people shouldn't expect that.

I agree but you have to admit, having an authority figure set a strict practice regimen that's up to SKT1 standards will definitely do this team some good.

I just hope he doesn't ignore developing the non-Koreans in the team.


The only thing stopping them is themselves. Not because they don't have proper guidance or people to look up to. You either want it or you don't.


That´s like saying depressed people don´t want enough to feel good.


In some indirect way that's true though. That + not knowing how to establish/maintain it.
It's definitely a mix of all those things. Sometimes people are depressed eventhough they already have a lot of good in their life. That's because they don't want to feel good enough/don't know how to balance it properly.
Humans have a tendency to contradict themselves. It's like this: YOU CANT HAVE IT ALL --> back to demotivation/depression and feeding that cycle. What people desire fluctuates on a consistent basis.


I'm so glad we have you, random internet poster, to disprove all these working theories based on cognitive neuroscience proven wrong because humans don't "know how to balance" themselves properly.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37015 Posts
March 14 2013 19:06 GMT
#488
On March 14 2013 19:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 19:30 Seeker wrote:
On March 14 2013 17:38 EvilTeletubby wrote:
ZOMG THE SKT1 WIZARD!!

Cool stuff. ;-D

Although I liked him better with the crazy hair.

SKT T1 ETT, not SKT1.

tell that to rain and parting

What do you mean?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 14 2013 19:09 GMT
#489
On March 15 2013 03:27 Sc2Null wrote:
A coach cannot make up for lack of skill unfortunately


hahahahahahaahahah. Your right jaedong/stephano/taeja/hero are just fucking awful players with absolutely no skill. Wait no your just kind of stupid to even think that.

Like wow eg/tl have strong rosters with strong talented players the fact you even think this is just makes you look so dumb -_-.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 14 2013 19:12 GMT
#490
On March 15 2013 04:09 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 03:27 Sc2Null wrote:
A coach cannot make up for lack of skill unfortunately


hahahahahahaahahah. Your right jaedong/stephano/taeja/hero are just fucking awful players with absolutely no skill. Wait no your just kind of stupid to even think that.

Like wow eg/tl have strong rosters with strong talented players the fact you even think this is just makes you look so dumb -_-.


Have you ever been so mad that you remove every comma from your sentences? Yes. Yes, you have.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 19:14:36
March 14 2013 19:13 GMT
#491
well let's see if coach park can revive that poor team.

edit:

where's the report button?
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
March 14 2013 19:16 GMT
#492
On March 15 2013 04:09 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 03:27 Sc2Null wrote:
A coach cannot make up for lack of skill unfortunately


hahahahahahaahahah. Your right jaedong/stephano/taeja/hero are just fucking awful players with absolutely no skill. Wait no your just kind of stupid to even think that.

Like wow eg/tl have strong rosters with strong talented players the fact you even think this is just makes you look so dumb -_-.


first off, your rage just makes YOU look stupid. Look at EG-TL record in proleague, abysmal. These players you mentioned may be strong individually, but it means nothing if you can't win your match. Having a new coach doesn't suddenly make your players better and I believe this is just apart of the "commercialism" of the EG model. You know the major announcement of the "unholy alliance" and how it will wreck the face of the kespa proleague players? yeah..me either
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 14 2013 19:17 GMT
#493
On March 15 2013 04:06 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 19:35 opterown wrote:
On March 14 2013 19:30 Seeker wrote:
On March 14 2013 17:38 EvilTeletubby wrote:
ZOMG THE SKT1 WIZARD!!

Cool stuff. ;-D

Although I liked him better with the crazy hair.

SKT T1 ETT, not SKT1.

tell that to rain and parting

What do you mean?

they call themselves SKT1, which means that if the players are happy with SKT1 then forum posters shouldn't kick up a fuss about it
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 20:11:24
March 14 2013 19:58 GMT
#494
On March 14 2013 21:34 Daswollvieh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 21:10 StarStruck wrote:
On March 14 2013 20:32 EpiK wrote:
On March 14 2013 20:04 Yello wrote:
Well, I don't think this will change anything for EG-TL in the near future, besides getting a surprising amount of people hyped for the team again.

If this coach can do anything at all then only after months of work. The team won't suddenly change from worst to best proleague team just because they got a new coach.

This feels a lot like European football to me: the team doesn't win -> hire a new coach
Sometimes that helps but it doesn't immediately change everything and people shouldn't expect that.

I agree but you have to admit, having an authority figure set a strict practice regimen that's up to SKT1 standards will definitely do this team some good.

I just hope he doesn't ignore developing the non-Koreans in the team.


The only thing stopping them is themselves. Not because they don't have proper guidance or people to look up to. You either want it or you don't.


That´s like saying depressed people don´t want enough to feel good.


Considering I've suffered from depression for over a decade and been hospitalized in the past. Guess what bucko? A lot of those people in the clinic spoke about making that first step and that's why they were there. They realized they needed help and you cannot help someone who doesn't want help. I'll speak for myself when I say I was completely numb to everything and I didn't know what it felt like to be happy at all. In the same way, for a player to succeed they have to want to succeed. These guys climbed the mountain top and walked back down. The have to find that hunger to climb the next mountain and hopefully have enough air to stay there for a while.

On March 15 2013 04:16 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 04:09 blade55555 wrote:
On March 15 2013 03:27 Sc2Null wrote:
A coach cannot make up for lack of skill unfortunately


hahahahahahaahahah. Your right jaedong/stephano/taeja/hero are just fucking awful players with absolutely no skill. Wait no your just kind of stupid to even think that.

Like wow eg/tl have strong rosters with strong talented players the fact you even think this is just makes you look so dumb -_-.


first off, your rage just makes YOU look stupid. Look at EG-TL record in proleague, abysmal. These players you mentioned may be strong individually, but it means nothing if you can't win your match. Having a new coach doesn't suddenly make your players better and I believe this is just apart of the "commercialism" of the EG model. You know the major announcement of the "unholy alliance" and how it will wreck the face of the kespa proleague players? yeah..me either


Their individual records aren't really that bad though from the samples we have. I certainly don't think they needed a coaching change either and I do think this is there way of telling their fans. "Hey guys, we're working on it." When in reality, these players stay the course with HotS and these numbers stay relatively similar (which I would expect and maybe two guys get on a hot streak) and you'd see a few more wins as a group. Ideally the situation would have corrected itself in time. People can blast the other Park all they want for the order he sends out but it really is no different from all the other flak coaches receive. It's only heightened because it's EG/TL & unfortunately they find themselves at the bottom of the round. It's very rare to see any type of lynch in PL.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 14 2013 20:07 GMT
#495
I don't know if a coach can turn things around within a few months. I wonder if EG thought they would 'easily' get to the play-offs, so they didn't need the Korean infrastructure so much. Because obviously, if they had Coach Park from the start it would have been a lot better.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Spoink
Profile Joined December 2012
Austria150 Posts
March 14 2013 20:16 GMT
#496
I really hope that he can turn things around but I dont think it will happen this season..
But anyways good luck!!!!
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
March 14 2013 21:11 GMT
#497
Time will tell. But this move is so "Real Sport". Something is wrong, players kind of suck so conclusion -> New Coach!
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 14 2013 21:31 GMT
#498
On March 15 2013 06:11 tadL wrote:
Time will tell. But this move is so "Real Sport". Something is wrong, players kind of suck so conclusion -> New Coach!

Well from the samples we got at least a couple do have the skill to play individual league yet somehow fail in proleague. This looks like something more internal/mental rather then the players sucking.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 22:13:40
March 14 2013 22:05 GMT
#499
Good, EG-TL really needed this!

On March 15 2013 06:31 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 06:11 tadL wrote:
Time will tell. But this move is so "Real Sport". Something is wrong, players kind of suck so conclusion -> New Coach!

Well from the samples we got at least a couple do have the skill to play individual league yet somehow fail in proleague. This looks like something more internal/mental rather then the players sucking.


I agree, while players have some responsibility in the lack of EGTL's success, I think the coaches could of been doing a much better job. Replacing the coach is a step in the right direction. They were key mistakes constantly, such as bad lineups and sending players on completely wrong maps. Plus, coaches are responsible for supervising players, they have to make sure that the players will be ready for their maps, and if they are slacking players need to be cut from the lineup. Sure there are interleague conflicts but no player aside from Taeja has been consistently busy with GSL yet it feels like the players have just been doing whatever, with no regards to the map or their opponent. Playing the matchup IS NOT how you play Proleague and it's the Coach's responsibility to make the players understand that.
Try another route paperboy.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
March 14 2013 23:00 GMT
#500
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

dude, i read this fucking thread and IRL said "WOAH". by far the biggest news since jd joining a non-korean team

holy bejeeeezussss this is nuts.
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