On March 12 2013 06:17 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Did HOTS improve PvP?
Did HOTS improve PvP?
Yes.
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iSunrise
3302 Posts
March 11 2013 21:18 GMT
#3621
On March 12 2013 06:17 SarcasmMonster wrote: Did HOTS improve PvP? Yes. | ||
Heinsenzerg
Argentina2279 Posts
March 11 2013 21:18 GMT
#3622
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rj91
Spain29 Posts
March 11 2013 21:18 GMT
#3623
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DODswe4
Sweden2157 Posts
March 11 2013 21:19 GMT
#3624
On March 12 2013 06:17 SarcasmMonster wrote: Did HOTS improve PvP? dunno about improved, but changed it. mothership core, oracles, so yeah changed it | ||
faiza
United States451 Posts
March 11 2013 21:19 GMT
#3625
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DOUDOU
Wales2940 Posts
March 11 2013 21:19 GMT
#3626
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
March 11 2013 21:19 GMT
#3627
On March 12 2013 06:18 ssxsilver wrote: All about the VRs! up to date as never before | ||
paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
March 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#3628
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BigAsia
Canada451 Posts
March 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#3629
On March 12 2013 06:17 dani` wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2013 06:15 BigAsia wrote: On March 12 2013 06:14 Belha wrote: On March 12 2013 06:13 scypio wrote: On March 12 2013 06:11 Exarl25 wrote: On March 12 2013 06:10 scypio wrote: Toss seems to have so many aggressive openings in hots and Terrans early game looks more pitiful then ever... if this goes on like this I will switch to toss for sure ![]() Are you crazy? Have you not seen the shit Terran can do with Widow Mines and Speedivacs? It's Protoss that are having a tough time early game in that matchup right now. These things come in way too late, Toss seems to have a number of things that hit faster and harder. Please say one besides proxy oracle. And btw, defending proxy oracle can be figured out ez pz. Mine and speedvacs are solid, and lethal in korean hands. Not that I agree with the OP but blink stalker on certain maps is basically impossible to hold if u 1 rax Fe Blink got nerfed another 30 seconds it takes 170 seconds IIRC. Also MsC has no detection anymore so 1 Widow Mine basically holds it. Well a couple. It got nerfed again? I know it got nerfed during the beta patches but it still came faster and with more stalkers cuz u didn't need obs. But if they nerfed it again then yeah, I can see people holding it off. | ||
Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
March 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#3630
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
March 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#3631
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
March 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#3632
Ya for sure Ya for sure I chuckle every time I hear it | ||
NeuroNiky
Italy38 Posts
March 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#3633
Well done indeed. You don't mess with the Beast. | ||
Isualin
Turkey1903 Posts
March 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#3634
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Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
March 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#3635
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
March 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#3636
On March 12 2013 06:14 Belha wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2013 06:13 scypio wrote: On March 12 2013 06:11 Exarl25 wrote: On March 12 2013 06:10 scypio wrote: Toss seems to have so many aggressive openings in hots and Terrans early game looks more pitiful then ever... if this goes on like this I will switch to toss for sure ![]() Are you crazy? Have you not seen the shit Terran can do with Widow Mines and Speedivacs? It's Protoss that are having a tough time early game in that matchup right now. These things come in way too late, Toss seems to have a number of things that hit faster and harder. Please say one besides proxy oracle. And btw, defending proxy oracle can be figured out ez pz. Mine and speedvacs are solid, and lethal in korean hands. Well - I'd mix in a number of gateway + mothership core timings, more affordable DTs, classic 1-base robo all-ins, zealot archon etc. I don't know how strong they would be in korean hands but I think that I will be able to do much more with them than with the funky widow mine timings. I just don't like the idea of burrowing a mine and than praying "come this way and don't split your units please!". | ||
dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
March 11 2013 21:21 GMT
#3637
On March 12 2013 06:20 BigAsia wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2013 06:17 dani` wrote: On March 12 2013 06:15 BigAsia wrote: On March 12 2013 06:14 Belha wrote: On March 12 2013 06:13 scypio wrote: On March 12 2013 06:11 Exarl25 wrote: On March 12 2013 06:10 scypio wrote: Toss seems to have so many aggressive openings in hots and Terrans early game looks more pitiful then ever... if this goes on like this I will switch to toss for sure ![]() Are you crazy? Have you not seen the shit Terran can do with Widow Mines and Speedivacs? It's Protoss that are having a tough time early game in that matchup right now. These things come in way too late, Toss seems to have a number of things that hit faster and harder. Please say one besides proxy oracle. And btw, defending proxy oracle can be figured out ez pz. Mine and speedvacs are solid, and lethal in korean hands. Not that I agree with the OP but blink stalker on certain maps is basically impossible to hold if u 1 rax Fe Blink got nerfed another 30 seconds it takes 170 seconds IIRC. Also MsC has no detection anymore so 1 Widow Mine basically holds it. Well a couple. It got nerfed again? I know it got nerfed during the beta patches but it still came faster and with more stalkers cuz u didn't need obs. But if they nerfed it again then yeah, I can see people holding it off. Well I meant the nerf they got in HotS. In WoL at some point it was nerfed 30 sec as well I think. But regardless I'm fairly certain it's now 170 seconds which is super long (Stim is what, 110?). Actually Stim also seems to be 170, thus equally super long ![]() | ||
Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
March 11 2013 21:21 GMT
#3638
On March 12 2013 06:20 BigAsia wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2013 06:17 dani` wrote: On March 12 2013 06:15 BigAsia wrote: On March 12 2013 06:14 Belha wrote: On March 12 2013 06:13 scypio wrote: On March 12 2013 06:11 Exarl25 wrote: On March 12 2013 06:10 scypio wrote: Toss seems to have so many aggressive openings in hots and Terrans early game looks more pitiful then ever... if this goes on like this I will switch to toss for sure ![]() Are you crazy? Have you not seen the shit Terran can do with Widow Mines and Speedivacs? It's Protoss that are having a tough time early game in that matchup right now. These things come in way too late, Toss seems to have a number of things that hit faster and harder. Please say one besides proxy oracle. And btw, defending proxy oracle can be figured out ez pz. Mine and speedvacs are solid, and lethal in korean hands. Not that I agree with the OP but blink stalker on certain maps is basically impossible to hold if u 1 rax Fe Blink got nerfed another 30 seconds it takes 170 seconds IIRC. Also MsC has no detection anymore so 1 Widow Mine basically holds it. Well a couple. It got nerfed again? I know it got nerfed during the beta patches but it still came faster and with more stalkers cuz u didn't need obs. But if they nerfed it again then yeah, I can see people holding it off. yeah it got nerfed caus blink+ msc was too hard to hold, (think primarily against terran) | ||
kju
6143 Posts
March 11 2013 21:21 GMT
#3639
On March 12 2013 06:20 Exarl25 wrote: PvP is actually worse than it was in WoL. But I was a huge fan of WoL PvP so maybe not everyone will agree. Void Rays being so strong has really fucked up the matchup. the early game is fucked up imo | ||
ProbeEtPylon
168 Posts
March 11 2013 21:21 GMT
#3640
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