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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 11 2013 20:12 GMT
#3241
Aside from the lame lategame, that was a good match though I thought. Tons of diversity thus far in ZvP but ultimately it all dies to that composition if the toss gets into the lategame comfortably :/
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iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
March 11 2013 20:12 GMT
#3242
That corruptor arc was the worst engagement, ever. He had like 12 corruptors right over Grubby´s archons.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 20:13:10
March 11 2013 20:12 GMT
#3243
On March 12 2013 05:11 ALPINA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 05:07 Integra wrote:
On March 12 2013 05:05 ALPINA wrote:
On March 12 2013 05:03 Integra wrote:
Grubby's deathball is not that good though, he should replace the tempests with more voidrays, only have 2-3 archons, 1-2 templars and maybe 8 zealots. That army would litteraly kill anything stephano could produce.


Actually that much archons won him the game, because all you can do vs. that are ultras, and they were too expensive for stephano to produce.

If grubby didn't had that much archons he would prolly lost the game due to 20 corruptors + infestors.

corruptors doesn't kill voidrays, its the other way around. Voidrays are the counters to corruptor. Make corruptors vs voidray and you die as zerg.


35 curroptors and infestors? I think there wouldn't be much voids left tbh.

Trust me on this, they don't do shit against properly spread out voidrays. Make mutalisks or Hydras, anything else is suicide.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 20:13:12
March 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#3244
when are we getting some TvZ/TvP action?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#3245
On March 12 2013 05:08 dani` wrote:
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On March 12 2013 05:07 Undead1993 wrote:
is there a bracket for this tourney

semis
grubby 2-1 stephano
whitera - lucifron (next)

finals
grubby vs whitera/lucifron

oh thanks to both of you, thought there were 8 players or something
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
March 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#3246
I don't know about zerg players but this game was a much better pvz as a spectator than in WoL
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
March 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#3247
haha Redeye is great
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
March 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#3248
On March 12 2013 05:03 Abominous wrote:
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On March 12 2013 05:02 yawnoC wrote:
Stephano just doesn't win in France XD

He won ESWC and WCS:France, in France.
A french event and a weak ESWC field (outside MKP). MEH.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 20:15:00
March 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#3249
I always wished zerg anti-air was more dynamic and fun to watch.

It's always just been: Mass corruptor, mass corruptor, mass more corruptors. Sprinkling in a few infestor for fungal growth.

In wings of liberty it didn't matter much since corruptor+infestor was so strong by themselves it just ground everything else down, albeit being dull to watch. Compared to Terran anti-air comps which run vikings, ravens, battlecruisers and thors.

They need to sexify (yes, it's a word) up zerg anti-air compositions
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
March 11 2013 20:13 GMT
#3250
Break? Wo don´t need a break!
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
March 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#3251
On March 12 2013 05:10 iSunrise wrote:
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On March 12 2013 05:08 Teejing wrote:
Didnt the developers say they would make deathballs ineffective on hots at some point? Deathballs dont seem dead to me.

If I sit back and you build 20 archons you also have a deathball. What´s the point of your post again?


I am not interested in balance at this point, but the deathball effectiveness which sc2 supports by

1)better ai ( units run along very smooth )

2) worse aoe dmg ( you would never walk like this vs plague/storms or tanks from sc1 ^^ )
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#3252
What time does HotS EU go live? Midnight?
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
March 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#3253
Dat shirt.
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#3254
On March 12 2013 05:12 d00p wrote:
They need to nerf voids. There will be a patch very soon after launch I think. Maybe even tomorrow. Games were EPIC!


Imo Ultras will be one of the first units. On the other hand Flash made them look pretty weak today.
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
March 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#3255
That analysis by Apollo was just insane... I love this guy!
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
March 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#3256
On March 12 2013 05:13 Isualin wrote:
I don't know about zerg players but this game was a much better pvz as a spectator than in WoL


I dont even think most zerg players will argue that it was a more exciting game
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
March 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#3257
Oh my David Kim with the bronze league shirt.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
March 11 2013 20:14 GMT
#3258
On March 12 2013 05:13 yawnoC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 05:03 Abominous wrote:
On March 12 2013 05:02 yawnoC wrote:
Stephano just doesn't win in France XD

He won ESWC and WCS:France, in France.
A french event and a weak ESWC field (outside MKP). MEH.

But he won it in France. Logic?
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
March 11 2013 20:15 GMT
#3259
did he just say "Lings of Liberty"
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 11 2013 20:15 GMT
#3260
On March 12 2013 05:14 Derez wrote:
What time does HotS EU go live? Midnight?


Yes! 2h45m to go.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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