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[Interview] Code S Grand Finals 2013 GSL Season 1

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Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 02:14:21
March 10 2013 01:52 GMT
#1
(Z)Samsung KHAN RorO

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How do you feel about winning the championship?

I am so happy that I can’t put it in words but I’m also that exhausted. I want to thank my family and friends for coming to cheer me on all the way from Busan and I want to thank the many fans that came to the finals. I honestly think I was able to win the championship this season because so many fans cheered for me. I really want to thank them for that.

When you were talking about what it meant to you to win the championship you started getting teary. What were you feeling?

I received a ton of help to get all the way to the finals. I received a lot of help from the head coach, coach Ju, and my teammates but I failed to actually express my gratitude. I’ve never expressed myself like this before but I want to say everything I’ve been wanting to say since I won the championship.

Everything I said up on stage was true and sincere from my heart. I felt so bad about the fact that I never properly thanked my teammates for training so vigorously with me as if it was their own training sessions and the fact that coach Ju guided me every step of the way. So I think that’s why I got emotional up on stage.

You seemed so calm and composed during the pre-game interview.

I was booming with confidence during practice so I didn’t want to pretend to be modest in the outside world. I also wanted to motivate myself to do my absolute best. Everything I said just came out naturally because I was feeling so confident.

Even though it probably wasn’t easy, how did you prepare for an opponent like Symbol?

I took to heart the semifinals match that Symbol had against Curious. I’m certain that he prepared even more extensively for the finals than he did for the semifinals. But things were still flowing the way I wanted them to so the games progressed easily. Honestly though, the biggest reason as to why I was able to win was because I made sure to fix whatever areas I was lacking in and I also made sure to understand all of my teammates’ basics.

Game one was really important. How come you were able to take game one?

I remembered a past match where I had lost in game one so I decided to just approach this game one with a comfortable mindset. I told myself that there was no way I was going to lose after I won game one. But I was the player with the disadvantage. Mainly because Symbol did not play the way I expected him to for games one and two. Thanks to that, the games did not flow very well. But Symbol never capitalized on his advantages and allowed me to bring myself back into the match so I played passively while making sure I won all the battles.

Ever since your debut in 2008 with WeMadeFOX, this is your first ever championship victory.

I had never gotten past the Ro16 of an individual tournament nor had I ever performed well in Proleague. I told myself that I was just an average player. But after I won the championship today I started thinking about everything that I put myself through to get here. The biggest reason as to why I got so emotional today was because I remembered all the difficult times I had to endure to get to this point.

When you first debuted, it was through a GOMtv Classic tournament. How do you feel about winning the championship on the same network that you debuted on?

I think it is a really amazing coincidence. I can’t help but think this championship was a gift from above. Five years ago, I played in that tournament whilst knowing nothing about what was to come. But now that I was able to win a championship like this the feeling is so new and so many things just keep going through my mind.

Everything was going really well up till game three but games four and five did not go the way you wanted them to. You especially got decimated in game four because of nydus worms.

It’s not like I dropped my guard after I won game three. But I did start to lose focus. The nydus strategy that Symbol used for game four was something that I had used before during practice so it was a huge mistake that I didn’t scout thoroughly enough. That loss was really lame on my part and I figured that things would only get more and more difficult for me as the series kept on progressing. But I think I was able to win since Symbol also made a lot of critical mistakes.

Was it a prepared strategy that for games two and three you only showed your expansion and then hid the fact that you weren’t getting more drones and preparing for an aggressive attack?

The scenarios that came out for games one and two were scenarios that I never experienced during practice. I had no choice but to react through improvisations. I won game one because I used my brood lords well and I won game two because I improvised well with my movements. Game three was all about hitting him where it hurt and the build order I used was learned from Hydra. I want to take this moment to thank Hydra.

Your aspirations as a champion?

I am disappointed that WoL is now over. I wish I could have played it a little more but now it’s time for me to focus on HotS. Unfortunately for me, even though everyone’s going to be starting over from scratch, I’m going to be even more behind. It’s not going to matter that I won a championship because I’m going to have to work even harder. I’m going to have to learn HotS step by step while starting from a very low position.

You stated that you would win by a score of 4-2 and you made that come true. Did you say what you said because you knew you were going to win 4-2?

I stated that I would win by a score of at least 4-2 during the semifinals and I was right then too. I stated that I was going to win by a score of 4-2 for the finals cause I figured I would lose game one, lose another game somewhere during the six games, but ultimately win the series by taking four victories before a game seven could occur. I somehow luckily guessed the score right.

If you get to another finals, who would you like to face?

It’s going to be HotS so I can’t really say a specific player I would like to face but I would like to play a different match up than this one.

What is the first thing you’re going to do when you get back to the team house?

We have plans to go out and eat after the finals. I have plans to eat a ton of great food and once that’s over I am going to spend some time with my family who came all the way up from Busan. Also, if there’s time, I want to meet up with my friends and treat them to a delicious meal.

Did you have any happy dreams during all this?

While GSL was going on, I didn’t get to sleep properly till around the semifinals. I kept thinking about my upcoming games even in my dreams. I realized that I was lacking practice. I would go to sleep at five and then wake up at seven and I got the thought that I hadn’t practiced enough to merit sleep. I just wanted to get this done and over with and the fact that I won this championship so eagerly was a huge source of strength. But now I am exhausted.

Anything else you would like to say?

I want to thank my teammates and coaches for sticking with me through to the very end. While I was preparing for the finals, the head coach and coach Ju would always get me the proper practice partners I needed and fed me whatever I wanted to eat. I am so grateful to them for that. I also want to thank the T1 practice partners for staying up with me until four or five in the morning just diligently practicing as if it was their own matches they were preparing for. I also want to thank all my fans who cheered me on.

I always showed a very confident side of me during interviews and that was because I just didn’t want to put on a fake performance but rather I just wanted to keep my word and do the absolute best that my body would allow. I am so happy and proud of myself that I was able to keep my word. I promise that I won’t allow this one championship to get to my head and will practice diligently and persistently for HotS so I hope the fans will continue to heavily cheer me on.

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ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
March 10 2013 01:53 GMT
#2
THANKS YOU

also, I think RorO made a Ro16 in BW.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 01:55:00
March 10 2013 01:54 GMT
#3
I guess all those practices paid off. Congratz Roro! Thank for the interview <3
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 10 2013 01:55 GMT
#4
wow nice long interview!
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 01:59:56
March 10 2013 01:56 GMT
#5
The new trophy looks kind of odd.

Roro seems extremely happy, hopefully this interview will put an end to the idea of " BW players don't care about GSL ".
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
March 10 2013 01:58 GMT
#6
Sweet!! roro is great :D

Yay for Khan >:D
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
March 10 2013 01:59 GMT
#7
cant even merit 2 hours of sleep O.o
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
March 10 2013 02:03 GMT
#8
waiting for it all day

so many passion by roro.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
March 10 2013 02:07 GMT
#9
RORO! KHANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!

It must mean a lot to RorO to finally clutch an individual tournament after being around for five years as a progamer. Hell, he even himself thought he was only an average player.
Darkness2k11
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Chile313 Posts
March 10 2013 02:11 GMT
#10
Really nice Interview, Roro has a lot of passion ^_^, made me a fan of him, hopefully he will be able to transition fast into hots so he wins many tournaments ^^
When Behind, Dark Shrine
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
March 10 2013 02:12 GMT
#11
i didn't stay up to watch, cause zvz, but i'm happy for roro. the kespa players have arrived to destroy us all
:-)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 10 2013 02:13 GMT
#12
What a badass grats to him and hope to see some sick hots builds from him :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 02:28:26
March 10 2013 02:13 GMT
#13
On March 10 2013 10:56 Dodgin wrote:
The new trophy looks kind of odd.

Roro seems extremely happy, hopefully this interview will put an end to the idea of " BW players don't care about GSL ".


It's never been about the players not caring (because they obviously do a lot), but rather their management not caring, what with all the "SPL comes first" enforcement and "I had no time to prepare for the GSL" and such that's common to many, many, many interviews (even for the trainees who never get fielded in the SPL anyway LOL), along with the whole GOM vs. KeSPA tensions that exist and the drama and lasting implications surrounding that season where they said they were skipping the GSL entirely.
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 02:23:31
March 10 2013 02:22 GMT
#14
What a good season for Samsung KHAN, Stork, Jangbi, now Roro. Guess who's next? My head says Shine since there's Hydralisk speed upgrade in HOTS lol.

PS: GSL really should design better trophies in HOTS, those dildo shaped trophies look so wrong when the players are kissing it.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
March 10 2013 02:24 GMT
#15
I'm fucking disapointed Symbol, fucking disapoint Had u won I would have also won T.T

RorO is still a nice guy and I'm still happy he won. Kinda.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
March 10 2013 02:24 GMT
#16
gj roro, nice to see players who have been a progamer for so long finnaly get an important championship
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 02:25:54
March 10 2013 02:25 GMT
#17
Thanks Seeker! Happy for RorO, sad for symbol lol. Only sleeping two hours because he felt he didn't practice enough :O Reminds me of when there were rumours that Flash wouldn't sleep much to practice BW. Hope RorO continues to do well in HoTS and Symbol finally gets his GSL final win as well!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 10 2013 02:26 GMT
#18
--- Nuked ---
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 02:56:55
March 10 2013 02:29 GMT
#19
On March 10 2013 11:25 BigFan wrote:Only sleeping two hours because he felt he didn't practice enough :O Reminds me of when there were rumours that Flash wouldn't sleep much to practice BW.


reminds me of when i slept for two hours to cram finals


anyone know who all of the players that roro practiced against?
408xParadox
Profile Joined December 2011
United States140 Posts
March 10 2013 02:56 GMT
#20
Practicing with T1 practice partners what?
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 10 2013 03:07 GMT
#21
On March 10 2013 11:24 Talack wrote:
gj roro, nice to see players who have been a progamer for so long finnaly get an important championship


Was honestly hoping for an epic John speech...but TY seeker as always for the interview
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
March 10 2013 03:08 GMT
#22
Roroooooooo!!!!!!!
Die-hard KeSPA fan
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
March 10 2013 03:10 GMT
#23
God damnit I love it when progamers break down and cry when they win their titles.

So happy for your RorO! Your manly tears made me shed manly tears.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
eSen1a
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1058 Posts
March 10 2013 03:12 GMT
#24
Gz RorO, now win PL
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#25
On March 10 2013 11:56 408xParadox wrote:
Practicing with T1 practice partners what?


You didn't know it was common practice for KesPa teams or are you trying to knock T1 zergs? o-O
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
March 10 2013 03:39 GMT
#26
thanks seeker.. happy for roro.. great job.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
March 10 2013 03:45 GMT
#27
weird looking trophy.
also no elephant talk? is this just unique to roro or is kespa knocking on the door already?
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 10 2013 03:46 GMT
#28
The final BW champion is a Khan.

The final WoL champion is a Khan.

What a funny coincidence. Well done, RorO.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
March 10 2013 03:49 GMT
#29
On March 10 2013 12:45 xwoGworwaTsx wrote:
weird looking trophy.
also no elephant talk? is this just unique to roro or is kespa knocking on the door already?

It has been quite a while since Kespa players started playing SC2. It's no surprise that one of them won.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
March 10 2013 03:54 GMT
#30
Woohoo! Couldn't happen to a nicer guy
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edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 04:04:17
March 10 2013 04:02 GMT
#31
On March 10 2013 11:13 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 10:56 Dodgin wrote:
The new trophy looks kind of odd.

Roro seems extremely happy, hopefully this interview will put an end to the idea of " BW players don't care about GSL ".


It's never been about the players not caring (because they obviously do a lot), but rather their management not caring, what with all the "SPL comes first" enforcement and "I had no time to prepare for the GSL" and such that's common to many, many, many interviews (even for the trainees who never get fielded in the SPL anyway LOL), along with the whole GOM vs. KeSPA tensions that exist and the drama and lasting implications surrounding that season where they said they were skipping the GSL entirely.


I think Samsung is always the team who makes great effort and preparation on individual leagues among KeSPA teams, January is awesome. Look at all those players who helped roro to practice, Odin and January definitely helped to make those connections.

On the other hand, SKT is known to be awful on this aspect, Bisu complained multiple times about preparation for individual leagues.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
March 10 2013 04:03 GMT
#32
You got Rorolled son.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 10 2013 04:13 GMT
#33
On March 10 2013 12:49 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 12:45 xwoGworwaTsx wrote:
weird looking trophy.
also no elephant talk? is this just unique to roro or is kespa knocking on the door already?

It has been quite a while since Kespa players started playing SC2. It's no surprise that one of them won.


They haven't really had that many opportunities you know. What has it been a couple seasons and even then I still find this conversation fruitless considering a lot of those ESF players used to be Kespa players, lol. It's kind of ridiculous no matter how you slice it. To me it's just a bunch of nonsense.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 10 2013 04:15 GMT
#34
I would like to play a different match up than this one.


So Roro also dislikes ZvZ; what a surprise. Off the top of my head I can't think of any pros who really enjoy ZvZ. On the other hand, in the first few months of HotS, I doubt Roro will play many ZvZs based on how weakly Zerg has been performing, so that's good for him, kinda, I guess. Good job Roro, though I'm still angry at you because of my anti-team.
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
March 10 2013 04:16 GMT
#35
go roro!
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
DotPdf
Profile Joined January 2011
United States37 Posts
March 10 2013 04:20 GMT
#36
What a great interview. Thanks! RorO deserves a good nights rest.
"A real fan does not care about results alone. A real fan has the ability to support his idol even when they are in trouble. I am this kind of fan." - Congressmen Won
TripleOSeven
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States106 Posts
March 10 2013 04:25 GMT
#37
RorO really seems like the person who will always try his best and post good results. This interview just shows to me how dedicated and how grateful he is to everyone who helps him. He is a true champion.
MVP. Nuff said.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
March 10 2013 04:32 GMT
#38
2 hours of sleep a day.

well deserved
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
March 10 2013 04:39 GMT
#39
sick interview, roro looked so happy to win, not what i expected from a kespa player tbh.
Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 04:48:29
March 10 2013 04:48 GMT
#40
Its funny how people who have barely played sc2 compared to other pros who have played it for years as main profession, take championships away from them. It tells something about how easy the "sport" is.
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
March 10 2013 04:53 GMT
#41
On March 10 2013 13:48 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its funny how people who have barely played sc2 compared to other pros who have played it for years as main profession, take championships away from them. It tells something about how easy the "sport" is.


What an insult to the talent and skill Roro developed over this short time frame relatively speaking. That doesn't even address the fact that certain people may be more suited for certain matchups or have different preferences to begin with. Please keep your trash comments to yourself.

Congratulations to Roro though he's worked so hard and it means a lot to him especially since he's never gotten a championship during his BW career and he was among the most consistent players to have graced the game.
Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 04:57:22
March 10 2013 04:56 GMT
#42
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
March 10 2013 04:58 GMT
#43
Roro! Amazing interview. You were always my favorite Zerg in BW So much talent and you always played standard, so we'd be treated to amazing games. I hope you can catch up right away in HOTS! I think Zerg isn't that different anyway, it's just a matter of incorporating either the swarm host or viper and you'll be set!
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 10 2013 05:00 GMT
#44
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.


New people come into esports and they win, it happened in every other game including Brood War. This isn't sports, It's starcraft. Now go away.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 10 2013 05:01 GMT
#45
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.


So, winning a GSL isn't hard? How many GSLs have you won?
BW forever || Thall
Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
March 10 2013 05:01 GMT
#46
On March 10 2013 14:00 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.


New people come into esports and they win, it happened in every other game including Brood War. This isn't sports, It's starcraft. Now go away.

It just tells that this "esport" is easy as hell compared to real sports.
WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 05:03:25
March 10 2013 05:02 GMT
#47
Dude really, BW prepares you for SC2 more than you are saying, Flash for example crossed over and began dominating its more like a American Football player taking off the pads and learning new plays in Rugby and making a name for himself there. BW was more complex than WoL (arguably even HotS) so it was actually "true major leagues" to lower leagues.
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 05:05:57
March 10 2013 05:04 GMT
#48
Flash is hardly dominating sc2 atm

I would not be so sure about american football player getting so fast good at rugby.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 10 2013 05:05 GMT
#49
On March 10 2013 14:04 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Flash is hardly dominating sc2 atm


Maybe you should go give him some tips since you seem to know how easy it is.
BW forever || Thall
WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
March 10 2013 05:06 GMT
#50
On March 10 2013 14:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 14:00 Dodgin wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.


New people come into esports and they win, it happened in every other game including Brood War. This isn't sports, It's starcraft. Now go away.

It just tells that this "esport" is easy as hell compared to real sports.


Well... on that I will agree. Calling it a sport is kind of a joke anyway, I think we want to make people understand our passion and drive for the game so we dubbed eSport as a term that expresses that. Really, Roro prepared mentally as much as Tom Brady would for a Superbowl, he didn't get any sleep and he studied all day and plays 12 hours a day.

He isn't going to lift a car or slam dunk anything but the mental toughness and stamina to keep it up for hours is impressive.
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SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 05:07:54
March 10 2013 05:07 GMT
#51
On March 10 2013 14:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 14:00 Dodgin wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.


New people come into esports and they win, it happened in every other game including Brood War. This isn't sports, It's starcraft. Now go away.

It just tells that this "esport" is easy as hell compared to real sports.


Once again, what an insult to Roro's own abilities. I'll take the bait and assume that Roro should be compared to as a junior player (which generally isn't correct to begin with) and that symbol is an NHL level player (which can be debated as well). Even junior players who have skill can train to significantly improve over a short time. While it's not guaranteed that it is enough to win they can give even NHL players a run for their money depending on how they've adapted to their game.

I can tell you don't even understand conventional sports... let alone Starcraft.

Just let your own terrible analogy and trash comment sink in a little bit... one day you'll realize how wrong you are and learn to think with your head above your neck, not blow too early with the little one below.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 05:08:35
March 10 2013 05:07 GMT
#52
On March 10 2013 14:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 14:00 Dodgin wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.


New people come into esports and they win, it happened in every other game including Brood War. This isn't sports, It's starcraft. Now go away.

It just tells that this "esport" is easy as hell compared to real sports.


What's this e-sport? I don't care about e-sport, I like Starcraft. Stop comparing Starcraft to sports.
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
March 10 2013 05:09 GMT
#53
On March 10 2013 14:07 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 14:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
On March 10 2013 14:00 Dodgin wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.


New people come into esports and they win, it happened in every other game including Brood War. This isn't sports, It's starcraft. Now go away.

It just tells that this "esport" is easy as hell compared to real sports.


What's this e-sport? I don't care about e-sport, I like Starcraft. Stop comparing Starcraft to " real sports ".


Even if his analogy or comparison is correct (which it isn't to begin with) he just wants to devalue a players ability and effort.

I'm finished here... no point feeding to the dying fire that a mongrel... I mean mongol.... started.
Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
March 10 2013 05:09 GMT
#54
I would not market esports with stuff like "no sleep 12 hours gameplay" because its just unhealthy and seems just obsessive. Also I dont think he really played 12 hours and slept like that because it would have just fatigued him and nothing really would have been gained by that bad training routine.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 05:11:17
March 10 2013 05:09 GMT
#55
On March 10 2013 14:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 14:00 Dodgin wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.


New people come into esports and they win, it happened in every other game including Brood War. This isn't sports, It's starcraft. Now go away.

It just tells that this "esport" is easy as hell compared to real sports.

yeah sure thing buddy.
On March 10 2013 14:09 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
I would not market esports with stuff like "no sleep 12 hours gameplay" because its just unhealthy and seems just obsessive. Also I dont think he really played 12 hours and slept like that because it would have just fatigued him and nothing really would have been gained by that bad training routine.

It's called dedication.
Quit shitting on Starcraft if you don't like it then don't post, keep it to yourself.
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Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
March 10 2013 05:11 GMT
#56
On March 10 2013 14:07 SniperVul5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 14:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
On March 10 2013 14:00 Dodgin wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.


New people come into esports and they win, it happened in every other game including Brood War. This isn't sports, It's starcraft. Now go away.

It just tells that this "esport" is easy as hell compared to real sports.


Once again, what an insult to Roro's own abilities. I'll take the bait and assume that Roro should be compared to as a junior player (which generally isn't correct to begin with) and that symbol is an NHL level player (which can be debated as well). Even junior players who have skill can train to significantly improve over a short time. While it's not guaranteed that it is enough to win they can give even NHL players a run for their money depending on how they've adapted to their game.

I can tell you don't even understand conventional sports... let alone Starcraft.

Just let your own terrible analogy and trash comment sink in a little bit... one day you'll realize how wrong you are and learn to think with your head above your neck, not blow too early with the little one below.

It would never really happen, hard boiled NHL teams would not let those junior players take any wins.
nikonikonii
Profile Joined March 2013
Japan38 Posts
March 10 2013 05:14 GMT
#57
It's really funny to see kespa is sponsored by top brands like nike adidas and pony but esf players sponsored by primezzang and thehandsomenerd.com
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 05:19:19
March 10 2013 05:17 GMT
#58
On March 10 2013 14:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 14:00 Dodgin wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.


New people come into esports and they win, it happened in every other game including Brood War. This isn't sports, It's starcraft. Now go away.

It just tells that this "esport" is easy as hell compared to real sports.

So what exactly are you doing in this thread exactly? Go to a sport website instead then...
All you are doing is basically insulting all the players.
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
March 10 2013 05:19 GMT
#59
On March 10 2013 14:11 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 14:07 SniperVul5 wrote:
On March 10 2013 14:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
On March 10 2013 14:00 Dodgin wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.


New people come into esports and they win, it happened in every other game including Brood War. This isn't sports, It's starcraft. Now go away.

It just tells that this "esport" is easy as hell compared to real sports.


Once again, what an insult to Roro's own abilities. I'll take the bait and assume that Roro should be compared to as a junior player (which generally isn't correct to begin with) and that symbol is an NHL level player (which can be debated as well). Even junior players who have skill can train to significantly improve over a short time. While it's not guaranteed that it is enough to win they can give even NHL players a run for their money depending on how they've adapted to their game.

I can tell you don't even understand conventional sports... let alone Starcraft.

Just let your own terrible analogy and trash comment sink in a little bit... one day you'll realize how wrong you are and learn to think with your head above your neck, not blow too early with the little one below.

It would never really happen, hard boiled NHL teams would not let those junior players take any wins.


it's different, you're talking about sports where peak physical conditions > much harder to train than just pure mechanical aspect.

and you're also talking about team sports, which compounds the difficulty factor.
Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
March 10 2013 05:22 GMT
#60
Its totally possible to be at very good physical condition at 19 or so years and able to match those older player in physical aspects. But the hardest thing is, that it is fucking hard to gain those actual icehockey skills and additionally form a good teamwork between players.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 10 2013 05:23 GMT
#61
On March 10 2013 14:22 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its totally possible to be at very good physical condition at 19 or so years and able to match those older player in physical aspects. But the hardest thing is, that it is fucking hard to gain those actual icehockey skills and additionally form a good teamwork between players.

who gives a shit? Why are you coming here in an interview thread basically insulting all the players? What is the freaking point?
Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 05:26:05
March 10 2013 05:25 GMT
#62
I am not fucking insulting players. I just pointed out that it tells about how easy the game is if some newcomers take as prestigious titles as gsl from players that have played it for years by now.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 05:29:07
March 10 2013 05:28 GMT
#63
What I've noticed about Mongolbonjwa:

- In my Up/Downs Group E interview thread, he brings up some shit about Koreans not speaking English properly and that started a flame war.
- In my EG-TL: From Heaven to Hell thread, he brings up some shit about Win Ratio being used incorrectly and started another flame war
- In this interview thread, he talks about eSports not being a real sport and started a flame war.

To all TL users, please don't take the bait. This kid loves attention. And he keeps doing it in my threads for some reason -__-;;
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Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 10 2013 05:29 GMT
#64
On March 10 2013 14:25 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
I am not fucking insulting players. I just pointed out that it tells about how easy the game is if some newcomers take as prestigious titles as gsl from players that have played it for years by now.


Okay, so you just came into the thread to demean the accomplishments and dedication of all SC2 pros. Fantastic contribution, thanks very much.
BW forever || Thall
Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
March 10 2013 05:30 GMT
#65
I just mentioned what is the state of sc2 esports currently, and I was the one who was flamed for that.
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 05:32:29
March 10 2013 05:30 GMT
#66
On March 10 2013 14:22 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its totally possible to be at very good physical condition at 19 or so years and able to match those older player in physical aspects. But the hardest thing is, that it is fucking hard to gain those actual icehockey skills and additionally form a good teamwork between players.


For the love of god people lets stop feeding him anymore he's gonna be fatter than Texas at this point. Let's just stop replying to him at this point (marble doesn't exactly wear away quickly into a prominent statue).

We each have our own opinions regardless of whether it's right or not. The least you can do next time mongol is try to think about your analogies and comments before you post them. (once again don't blow your load too early good sir)

GJ derailing the entire thread when it really should be dedicated to congratulating Roro on his fine achievement. Hope your mother is proud of you.

Back on topic congratz to Roro
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
March 10 2013 05:34 GMT
#67
oh forgot one thing.
Thanks for the translation Seeker! ^_^
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SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 05:37:52
March 10 2013 05:35 GMT
#68
On March 10 2013 14:30 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
I just mentioned what is the state of sc2 esports currently, and I was the one who was flamed for that.


Rofl now he goes on as if he understands the "state of SC2 esports" and insults that by exclaiming its ezmode.

Oh man you show us what's up.

I know it's against the rules to backseat moderate... but please I urge the liquid heavens that the moderation team bans you. (temporarily so we can see how much of a model gentlemen you become in the future... oh who am I kidding)
Proof.
Profile Joined August 2011
535 Posts
March 10 2013 05:36 GMT
#69
When he was up 3-0 and going into game 4, I excitedly told my friend he'd definitely take this hands down 4-0. Fast forward a couple minutes later and I'm left eating my own words loooooooooool. Gratz to roro, very nice to see at least one champion from kespa before hots.
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
March 10 2013 05:40 GMT
#70
On March 10 2013 14:25 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
I am not fucking insulting players. I just pointed out that it tells about how easy the game is if some newcomers take as prestigious titles as gsl from players that have played it for years by now.


while the game is somehow "easy", it's not something ridiculous that newcomer just emerges and conquers everything if they are simply better. Stephen Hendry won everything at 21 years of age in one of the most sophisticated sport
OSM.OneManArmy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States509 Posts
March 10 2013 05:45 GMT
#71
YEE roro like a bawss
also i approve of this

If you get to another finals, who would you like to face?

It’s going to be HotS so I can’t really say a specific player I would like to face but I would like to play a different match up than this one.
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
March 10 2013 05:46 GMT
#72
i thought symbol was going to make one of his fuck off come backs for a second there
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 10 2013 05:48 GMT
#73
On March 10 2013 14:30 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
I just mentioned what is the state of sc2 esports currently, and I was the one who was flamed for that.


Lol, but you failed to notice that Roro has been playing BW for years. Although they are different games, a lot of the skills still carry over. Or are you saying that if Roro had no BW background, he would still have won after playing 6-8 months of SC2?
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1949 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 05:52:58
March 10 2013 05:51 GMT
#74
On March 10 2013 13:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Its just a fact. Something like this would never happen in real sports where it is actually hard to be a master. You would not see some junior/lower tier icehockey leaguers suddenly come and take win at NHL even if they were allowed to take part, etc.

Well, I think Crosby and Ovechkin beg to differ. Oh and there's also Selanne's all time best rookie season; 76 goals 132 points.

Oh yeah, congratulations Roro!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 10 2013 05:52 GMT
#75
On March 10 2013 14:25 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
I am not fucking insulting players. I just pointed out that it tells about how easy the game is if some newcomers take as prestigious titles as gsl from players that have played it for years by now.

Maybe consider RorO's background first? He's been playing BW for 5 years so no, he's not as much of a newcomer as you think since both games still share a lot of similarities(and some differences of course lol).
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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
March 10 2013 06:03 GMT
#76
put a tear in my eye :')
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 10 2013 06:15 GMT
#77
Grats RorO ! Nice to see the zerg win in this one

Ty for the translation as always seeker !
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
March 10 2013 06:29 GMT
#78
I also want to thank the T1 practice partners for staying up with me until four or five in the morning just diligently practicing as if it was their own matches they were preparing for.


SKT gotta be a part of the championship somehow you know

And congrats to Roro!
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
March 10 2013 06:35 GMT
#79
On March 10 2013 14:28 Seeker wrote:
What I've noticed about Mongolbonjwa:

- In my Up/Downs Group E interview thread, he brings up some shit about Koreans not speaking English properly and that started a flame war.
- In my EG-TL: From Heaven to Hell thread, he brings up some shit about Win Ratio being used incorrectly and started another flame war
- In this interview thread, he talks about eSports not being a real sport and started a flame war.

To all TL users, please don't take the bait. This kid loves attention. And he keeps doing it in my threads for some reason -__-;;

I love how right after this post there are 7 more people quoting and arguing with him. Some men just want to watch the forums burn.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
March 10 2013 06:39 GMT
#80
On March 10 2013 14:28 Seeker wrote:
What I've noticed about Mongolbonjwa:

- In my Up/Downs Group E interview thread, he brings up some shit about Koreans not speaking English properly and that started a flame war.
- In my EG-TL: From Heaven to Hell thread, he brings up some shit about Win Ratio being used incorrectly and started another flame war
- In this interview thread, he talks about eSports not being a real sport and started a flame war.

To all TL users, please don't take the bait. This kid loves attention. And he keeps doing it in my threads for some reason -__-;;


lol thanks, I was about to reply to his latest and greatest ~_~

huge grats to Roro, although I was rooting for Symbol, he did make a lot of mistakes, so I can't complain.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 07:00:44
March 10 2013 06:49 GMT
#81

grats to RoRo!

Samsung Khan FTW!!

and thank you SeeKeR
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 07:32:00
March 10 2013 07:23 GMT
#82
Roro fighting! First KeSPA champion ^___^
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FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
March 10 2013 07:27 GMT
#83
That game 1 was extremely intense for a wol zvz, i kinda had this gut feeling that roro was gonna win but he still took me by surprise i think he earned it though, congratz roro!
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
March 10 2013 07:31 GMT
#84
On March 10 2013 16:23 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 10:56 Dodgin wrote:
The new trophy looks kind of odd.

Roro seems extremely happy, hopefully this interview will put an end to the idea of " BW players don't care about GSL ".

I could cite 15 interviews with KeSPA players saying they didn't have any time or minimal time to prepare for GSL...

There is a significant difference between not caring and not having time to prepare due to team obligations.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
March 10 2013 08:19 GMT
#85
2 hours of sleep? GG Foreigners will never catch up
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
March 10 2013 08:29 GMT
#86
On March 10 2013 16:23 Elroi wrote:
Roro fighting! First KeSPA champion ^___^

Oh yeah, huh, first kespa champ :D

Just in time for the end of wol too :3

YES WE KHAN
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wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
March 10 2013 08:38 GMT
#87
This gave me a nice boost in Liquidbet Grats!
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 10 2013 11:19 GMT
#88
I had never gotten past the Ro16 of an individual tournament nor had I ever performed well in Proleague.

come on roro, you're the legendary Anti-Team destroyer!
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Hadley88
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany267 Posts
March 10 2013 11:22 GMT
#89
Sad for symbol, but at least RorO is no Sniper - so nice for him. :>
Negius
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands290 Posts
March 10 2013 11:26 GMT
#90
He seems really happy with winning this tournament.
I wonder how much momentum he can take into HotS, gratz to you roro.
And thank you Seeker for the long interview translation
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
March 10 2013 11:29 GMT
#91
On March 10 2013 14:40 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 14:25 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
I am not fucking insulting players. I just pointed out that it tells about how easy the game is if some newcomers take as prestigious titles as gsl from players that have played it for years by now.


while the game is somehow "easy", it's not something ridiculous that newcomer just emerges and conquers everything if they are simply better. Stephen Hendry won everything at 21 years of age in one of the most sophisticated sport

Oh man, don't even mention Hendry please. Always makes me shed a tear for poor Jimmy White
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 10 2013 11:33 GMT
#92
Really great interview ! Good words from Roro, made me like him.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 10 2013 11:34 GMT
#93
Would have loved to see Symbol win. But its really nice that Roro seems so overly happy about winning.
Mudkipnick
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Korea (South)241 Posts
March 10 2013 11:36 GMT
#94
Thank you for the interview, great read.
Follow your dreams
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
March 10 2013 13:17 GMT
#95
Thanks Seeker.

On March 10 2013 17:29 Aerisky wrote:

YES WE KHAN

Haha that was funny
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
March 10 2013 13:22 GMT
#96
Grats to Roro and lovely interview. Hope he gets on well with HoTS! :D
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theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
March 10 2013 13:32 GMT
#97
roro is a sexy beast.
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
March 10 2013 13:45 GMT
#98
as a wemade fox fan who really liked roro, i'm really happy that he won, even more after reading this interview. what a funny kid
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1365 Posts
March 10 2013 14:16 GMT
#99
great interview, thanks for the translation
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18397 Posts
March 10 2013 14:52 GMT
#100
Grats to Roro and Khan!
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
March 10 2013 15:18 GMT
#101
I wish they would hype players personal stories more during the tournament, at least for semis and finals, so the viewers can relate to players they might not know yet. If they made a storyline how Roro always was lacking in results and thinking how he was merely average, but then the opportunity came to hit it bigtime at GOM where also his career began, how he had doubts and practiced like crazy and would be unable to find sleep because he could still train more etc. How different would the viewing experience have been.
And that TSL-Zerg-schtick from Symbol alone would serve for a great storyline.

There are so many opportunities left to be explored. I hope they do.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 10 2013 16:08 GMT
#102
--- Nuked ---
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 16:14:00
March 10 2013 16:08 GMT
#103
Roro!!! This brings me the memory when other Khan members got their gold.

Stork also cried when he got his first OSL gold.
youtube.com/watch?v=kf68DcBwGRM&t=21m42s


However jangbi did not.

youtube.com/watch?v=uiIRazYouGw&t=29m15s
Die-hard KeSPA fan
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 10 2013 16:19 GMT
#104
Yay roro!
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Meadowlark
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States349 Posts
March 10 2013 16:41 GMT
#105
Was cheering for Symbol, but RorO definitely has a sweet story.
''Three bottles of Monster in a day; I'm pumped as fuck." -Stephano
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
March 10 2013 17:53 GMT
#106
Flash just made pawning Roro his number one priority for 2013. Fuck PL, that guy took my precious!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 10 2013 18:46 GMT
#107
Yayy RorO so gosu <3
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