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On March 06 2013 18:31 Jepsyn wrote:
Not sure why all the venom on this.. its not like he wouldnt have easily made it out of his group anyway. Why does everyone on the internet need a perfect explanation just for anyone to say some schmoe like Noblesse should get it over Rain...
SC2 isa not about what you did in the last 3 weeks people. A good result lasts 3 MONTHS at least for a player.. stop with this what have you done for me lately crap.
Rain got a Seed because he is undoubtedly one of the best players that wasnt in Code S. DONE
Did you watch last night's Up & Down group or any of Noblesse's OR Rain's recent games?
Someone made it straight to Code S this season of Code A. Another fell out of the GSL.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_5/Code_A
Also, Where's Rain? Noblesse is here.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S
and last night's Up & Down group that ended at almost fucking 1 AM KST
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_2/Up_and_Down
Look up the stats before you put bullshit like this out for people to read. Noblesse clearly has the better results in the past several months. You look like a blatant fanboy with no knowledge of the SC2 scene.
Also, this happened last night. Check the VOD and see why it was worth watching if you're not some cheap troll with no money too. + Show Spoiler [poll] +Poll: Recommend BBoongBBoong vs Noblesse tie breaker?Yes (69) 91% No (5) 7% If you have time (2) 3% 76 total votes Your vote: Recommend BBoongBBoong vs Noblesse tie breaker? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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On March 06 2013 18:55 Type|NarutO wrote:
Why don't you guys wait for the reason before bashing?
I haven't seen many player bashing comments here, the general concensus is that it isn't "fair" to everybody else, given his up/down group was today. Everybody knows he's a good player.
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TLADT24920 Posts
wow, worse timing. He's a good player no doubt but he should've just had to play tonight like everyone else :/
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On March 06 2013 19:01 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 18:55 Type|NarutO wrote:
Why don't you guys wait for the reason before bashing? I haven't seen many player bashing comments here, the general concensus is that it isn't "fair" to everybody else, given his up/down group was today. Everybody knows he's a good player.
....Nobody's talking about bashing the players, it's about bashing gom.
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I don't get it. Will have to wait for Gom's response before i start bashing them tho, maybe i am missing something but nothing that comes out of my head seems fair.
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On March 06 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:01 Zenbrez wrote:On March 06 2013 18:55 Type|NarutO wrote:
Why don't you guys wait for the reason before bashing? I haven't seen many player bashing comments here, the general concensus is that it isn't "fair" to everybody else, given his up/down group was today. Everybody knows he's a good player. ....Nobody's talking about bashing the players, it's about bashing gom.
First of all this and secondly we don't even have a reason for it yet. If its some dumb stuff, you can bash... but maybe there's some good reason behind it? =.=
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On March 06 2013 18:55 Type|NarutO wrote:
Why don't you guys wait for the reason before bashing?
well it *is* the starcraft community you're talking about....
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I guess I will be seeded soon
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This is completely unfair. Also, fantastic news.
I guess we will have to wait and see GOM's reasoning.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 06 2013 19:04 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:On March 06 2013 19:01 Zenbrez wrote:On March 06 2013 18:55 Type|NarutO wrote:
Why don't you guys wait for the reason before bashing? I haven't seen many player bashing comments here, the general concensus is that it isn't "fair" to everybody else, given his up/down group was today. Everybody knows he's a good player. ....Nobody's talking about bashing the players, it's about bashing gom. First of all this and secondly we don't even have a reason for it yet. If its some dumb stuff, you can bash... but maybe there's some good reason behind it? =.=
If there is a good reason behind it, I imagine it would be easy to explain why he was seeded without waiting a few days and potentially causing a shitstorm, no?
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On March 06 2013 19:06 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:04 Type|NarutO wrote:On March 06 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:On March 06 2013 19:01 Zenbrez wrote:On March 06 2013 18:55 Type|NarutO wrote:
Why don't you guys wait for the reason before bashing? I haven't seen many player bashing comments here, the general concensus is that it isn't "fair" to everybody else, given his up/down group was today. Everybody knows he's a good player. ....Nobody's talking about bashing the players, it's about bashing gom. First of all this and secondly we don't even have a reason for it yet. If its some dumb stuff, you can bash... but maybe there's some good reason behind it? =.= If there is a good reason behind it, I imagine it would be easy to explain why he was seeded without waiting a few days and potentially causing a shitstorm, no?
I don't know. Thats why I wait.
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On March 06 2013 18:26 liberate71 wrote:
rofl after todays U&D match GOMTV say "Oh hey Rain, we are going to forfeit our decision to seed you to Code S, its now going to MVP... paybacks a bitch"
lol, That would be quite the slap to the face.
Right now, without having heard the official reason from GOM, I feel rather unhappy with the giving out of seeds at all. At least let me keep telling myself that Code S is fair and competitive by making a Wild Card group like last season. And I thought that some part of the Code A format or something was going to get revamped for 2013? That would be nice to see.
GOM has the right to postpone our judging for now, I suppose. But I hope the reason behind this is legitimate.
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On March 06 2013 19:06 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:04 Type|NarutO wrote:On March 06 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:On March 06 2013 19:01 Zenbrez wrote:On March 06 2013 18:55 Type|NarutO wrote:
Why don't you guys wait for the reason before bashing? I haven't seen many player bashing comments here, the general concensus is that it isn't "fair" to everybody else, given his up/down group was today. Everybody knows he's a good player. ....Nobody's talking about bashing the players, it's about bashing gom. First of all this and secondly we don't even have a reason for it yet. If its some dumb stuff, you can bash... but maybe there's some good reason behind it? =.= If there is a good reason behind it, I imagine it would be easy to explain why he was seeded without waiting a few days and potentially causing a shitstorm, no?
Yeah its the timing that is the problem, not so much the player. But speculation revolves around all things involved.
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On March 06 2013 19:00 Elite_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 18:31 Jepsyn wrote:
Not sure why all the venom on this.. its not like he wouldnt have easily made it out of his group anyway. Why does everyone on the internet need a perfect explanation just for anyone to say some schmoe like Noblesse should get it over Rain...
SC2 isa not about what you did in the last 3 weeks people. A good result lasts 3 MONTHS at least for a player.. stop with this what have you done for me lately crap.
Rain got a Seed because he is undoubtedly one of the best players that wasnt in Code S. DONE Did you watch last night's Up & Down group or any of Noblesse's OR Rain's recent games? Someone made it straight to Code S this season of Code A. Another fell out of the GSL. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_5/Code_AAlso, Where's Rain? Noblesse is here. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_Sand last night's Up & Down group that ended at almost fucking 1 AM KST http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_2/Up_and_DownLook up the stats before you put bullshit like this out for people to read. Noblesse clearly has the better results in the past several months. You look like a blatant fanboy with no knowledge of the SC2 scene. Also, this happened last night. Check the VOD and see why it was worth watching if you're not some cheap troll with no money too. + Show Spoiler [poll] +Poll: Recommend BBoongBBoong vs Noblesse tie breaker?Yes (69) 91% No (5) 7% If you have time (2) 3% 76 total votes Your vote: Recommend BBoongBBoong vs Noblesse tie breaker? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
No need to be so harsh! It's perfectly reasonable to be upset with this random seed, but let's be honest, Noblesse was NOT going to get it. Knowing GOM, they would've given it to some foreigner who has slightly decent results or a well-loved veteran in code B like Mvp or MMA. (Or maybe Bisu omg <3)
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On March 06 2013 19:00 gylka wrote:
Why not just give Rain Ro8 spot, or spot in the finals, whatever...
I guess competitions is realy not the key thing in Code S, right?
My goodness, this is a slight bit of an over-reaction.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 06 2013 19:10 SAFenix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:00 Elite_ wrote:On March 06 2013 18:31 Jepsyn wrote:
Not sure why all the venom on this.. its not like he wouldnt have easily made it out of his group anyway. Why does everyone on the internet need a perfect explanation just for anyone to say some schmoe like Noblesse should get it over Rain...
SC2 isa not about what you did in the last 3 weeks people. A good result lasts 3 MONTHS at least for a player.. stop with this what have you done for me lately crap.
Rain got a Seed because he is undoubtedly one of the best players that wasnt in Code S. DONE Did you watch last night's Up & Down group or any of Noblesse's OR Rain's recent games? Someone made it straight to Code S this season of Code A. Another fell out of the GSL. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_5/Code_AAlso, Where's Rain? Noblesse is here. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_Sand last night's Up & Down group that ended at almost fucking 1 AM KST http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_2/Up_and_DownLook up the stats before you put bullshit like this out for people to read. Noblesse clearly has the better results in the past several months. You look like a blatant fanboy with no knowledge of the SC2 scene. Also, this happened last night. Check the VOD and see why it was worth watching if you're not some cheap troll with no money too. + Show Spoiler [poll] +Poll: Recommend BBoongBBoong vs Noblesse tie breaker?Yes (69) 91% No (5) 7% If you have time (2) 3% 76 total votes Your vote: Recommend BBoongBBoong vs Noblesse tie breaker? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
No need to be so harsh! It's perfectly reasonable to be upset with this random seed, but let's be honest, Noblesse was NOT going to get it. Knowing GOM, they would've given it to some foreigner who has slightly decent results or a well-loved veteran in code B like Mvp or MMA. (Or maybe Bisu omg <3)
I think making more than one type of unit is a requirement to be in Code S
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On March 06 2013 19:10 SAFenix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:00 Elite_ wrote:On March 06 2013 18:31 Jepsyn wrote:
Not sure why all the venom on this.. its not like he wouldnt have easily made it out of his group anyway. Why does everyone on the internet need a perfect explanation just for anyone to say some schmoe like Noblesse should get it over Rain...
SC2 isa not about what you did in the last 3 weeks people. A good result lasts 3 MONTHS at least for a player.. stop with this what have you done for me lately crap.
Rain got a Seed because he is undoubtedly one of the best players that wasnt in Code S. DONE Did you watch last night's Up & Down group or any of Noblesse's OR Rain's recent games? Someone made it straight to Code S this season of Code A. Another fell out of the GSL. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_5/Code_AAlso, Where's Rain? Noblesse is here. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_Sand last night's Up & Down group that ended at almost fucking 1 AM KST http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_2/Up_and_DownLook up the stats before you put bullshit like this out for people to read. Noblesse clearly has the better results in the past several months. You look like a blatant fanboy with no knowledge of the SC2 scene. Also, this happened last night. Check the VOD and see why it was worth watching if you're not some cheap troll with no money too. + Show Spoiler [poll] +Poll: Recommend BBoongBBoong vs Noblesse tie breaker?Yes (69) 91% No (5) 7% If you have time (2) 3% 76 total votes Your vote: Recommend BBoongBBoong vs Noblesse tie breaker? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
No need to be so harsh! It's perfectly reasonable to be upset with this random seed, but let's be honest, Noblesse was NOT going to get it. Knowing GOM, they would've given it to some foreigner who has slightly decent results or a well-loved veteran in code B like Mvp or MMA. (Or maybe Bisu omg <3)
People like him that think they know everything because a player was "the best in the world" for a month and still think they're the best annoy me... and it's even more annoying when they insult a player that has done better than "the best in the world" for the duration of time they're talking about... He looks stupid to people that know what they're talking about but might look smart to people that don't. He doesn't deserve to look smart when he has no idea what he's talking about. I proved him wrong. I'm not being harsh, I'm being realistic.
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Apart from conspiracy theory, it might be down to racial balance for Heart of the Swarm.
As it stands, Protoss is way under-represented for the first season of Heart of the Swarm GSL. If Rain isn't in the Up and Down, he is likely to be one of the top choices to be seeded for this reason.
Nevertheless, it is just sneaky and unfair to other players.
boo~
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