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IPL 6 is Cancelled - Official Statement - Page 15
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CloudMage
Canada221 Posts
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
On March 05 2013 16:31 simmeh wrote: damn i wish i was a billionaire, i would have bought them and kept ipl alive! :[ I wish I was a billionaire too! But i would just buy an island and drink rum all day! On topic: Meh,sad to see them stop TBH This doesnt have much to do with sc2, as they were a LoL tourney and that LoL racks hundreds of thousands of viewers. I cant really say why they stopped, but Im guessing that a lot of sponsors have probably been cutting their budgets and as everybody knows these kind of sponsorships are the first thing to go! | ||
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torg
Norway47 Posts
On March 05 2013 16:37 coolcor wrote: Only esports reporter chobopeon could have brought us "THE TRUTH" but he left esports after his kickstarter failed. I think it would have been neat to have an independent journalist investigate the business behind this decision. Hopefully slasher or ESFI can write and interesting article about this and what that part you quoted means exactly. Agree. Would be nice if statements from tournament organizers didnt look like the Clinton Trials. Also why did Kevin Knocke post it? Doesnt he have a boss or something that can post this news? Reminds me of Season 2 finals in Leugue Of Legends when djWheat had to apologize for Riot. | ||
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
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MrRicewife
Canada515 Posts
On March 05 2013 13:16 Baarn wrote: Of course people are gonna lose faith in them and that's expected. All I've seen you do is type out these tinfoil hat theories over this when you don't even have all the facts. You readily admit you aren't gonna get them yet here you are. Did you really expect to be coddled when you typed all that garbage in this thread? Far from tinfoil hat theories man... It's pretty logical. A company taking profit first over their fans/customers/regulars. A lot of businesses fail because they can't see they are trying to build a base to stand on, they just keep building on top of a fragile ground until this shit happens. Good companies will accept a loss to please their customers and in turn maintain a relationship with them. Why do people get so personal? Is it because you know you are wrong, and you have to attack at a personal level? I haven't typed any garbage. I could go to the very extremes and say insane, illogical, silly stuff and still, I would be correct because the management left the door open for such an attack. I don't understand what "...gonna get them, yet here you are.." means. And no, of fucking course not, I did NOT expect to be coddled. I expect a reasonable explanation of why I have to cancel a fucking plane ticket, get a refund and wait, ALL ON MY DIME. Instead, I get some half ass, bullshit story of, oh the scene has changed and ya, we can't compete anymore because we have poor visionaries at our company and couldn't predict that this event wouldn't bring in the revenue that was expected. And because of that, we are going to shit on all our customers who were expecting a service, which we STILL could do, but we don't want to be loyal and appreciative of them, so we will just pull the carpet out from their feet and say sorry. I really don't expect an appropriate response from you, considering you have attacked me twice now, and haven't really said much about what's at issue. Edit: Here is another thing, by the way... Sure, the customers who have the money are getting screwed pretty hard with no just reasoning (or maybe, but no explanation??). But not many people even think about the players who: a)were really looking forward to playing in this tournament b)practiced non-fucking-stop c)told their family, organized rides and times and inconvenienced others, told their girlfriends this and that etc made huge plans all for nothing. Again, we all get it. Sometimes things happen, but to just say oh, the scene changed and you know.. sorry about that. peace love and chicken grease.... That's unfair, unjust and rude. A slap in the consumers and players faces. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Looks like it was called right. | ||
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MagnuMizer
Denmark384 Posts
Good run IPL... gg | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8332 Posts
On March 05 2013 10:55 Defacer wrote: Step back for a moment and put yourself in there shoes. a) Run an expensive videogame tournament and hemorrhage money because you said you would. b) Piss off the fan base of a market that's shrinking anyways. It sucks ass, but the decision in this case in obvious. A majority of HOTS' features caters strictly to increasingly diehard fans. They should have pulled the cord earlier, but hey, firing and downsizing an entire team is a tough pill to swallow for any company. well if the team wakes up to their brand getting sold and their product getting scrapped, I could sympathize however these scene shrinking, esport making no money are yesterday news. I mean, who didnt know it long before? The only organization that is forced to make sc2 successful is GOM (but thats another story). IGN or whoever businesses are not supposed to operate this amateur. | ||
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MrRicewife
Canada515 Posts
On March 05 2013 17:21 Arceus wrote: well if the team wakes up to their brand getting sold and their product getting scrapped, I could sympathize however these scene shrinking, esport making no money are yesterday news. I mean, who didnt know it long before? The only organization that is forced to make sc2 successful is GOM (but thats another story). IGN or whoever businesses are not supposed to operate this amateur. Thank you Really. From the bottom of my heart. Someone who I can reason with. Who the fuck was running IPL. Obviously someone who has zero experience of running a business. Or someone who just flat out didn't care enough about other people/fan base/players. How incompetent do you have to be to not see so slightly into the future to not set up a massive tournament and then pull the plug last minute?? If I was running the show, or any decent human being for that matter (oh god I'm going to be crucified) I would have manned the fuck up, eaten the cost, and given one hell of a last show. It's not even a loss, it's a learning experience. Failures are the testament of success. I guaran-fucking-tee the next go around, they won't be so naive, but unfortunately in this case, it was at the cost of us and not them. Which shows a greasy company, over a true honest one. When all the domino's are stacked up, and pretty much already falling, what kind of person puts their foot in front of the last one to save it?? On March 05 2013 10:55 Defacer wrote: Step back for a moment and put yourself in there shoes. a) Run an expensive videogame tournament and hemorrhage money because you said you would. b) Piss off the fan base of a market that's shrinking anyways. It sucks ass, but the decision in this case in obvious. A majority of HOTS' features caters strictly to increasingly diehard fans. They should have pulled the cord earlier, but hey, firing and downsizing an entire team is a tough pill to swallow for any company. By the way, The decision must not be obvious because you're wrong. If you knew what capitalism was about, you would have to agree building a trusting relationship with your customers is just as important as expanding and growing. The two go hand in hand. So yes, sometimes you have to suffer in the interest of the future relationship you create with your customers. In this case, IPL took the ez way out, and now is left with a lot of disappointed customers. If you care to disagree, Microsoft is an example: Slowly but surely, they have been ignoring the demands of what people want. They have been failing to listen, and in turn, gave up what was essentially (and legally at one point) a monopoly to Apple. Which is a company that one man worked at who could understand just how important it was to please their customer, or at the very least convince them that they care. | ||
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llIH
Norway2142 Posts
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samwise_the_brave
Germany11 Posts
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Soda-88
Croatia476 Posts
On March 05 2013 18:21 samwise_the_brave wrote: sc2 is going to die !theire statement is total bs . when they would have wrote sth like :" sry but we cant make money with sc2" it would have been the truth . Yeah, SC2 is going to die. In 10-15 years. | ||
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Teodice
Sweden641 Posts
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Bjarne
Germany192 Posts
Probably the best SC2 event gone, cause LoL-section messed up? This is so sad... On March 05 2013 18:21 samwise_the_brave wrote: sc2 is going to die !theire statement is total bs . when they would have wrote sth like :" sry but we cant make money with sc2" it would have been the truth . Seems like it was not an SC2 problem in the first place... Other events can make money with SC2, obviously! | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
Today, game publishers are holding their own tournaments, which is why we are not ready to commit the resources at this time to run another major independent event. This is really fucking sad and every CS player here remembers how the same shit began with CGS. "Supporting LoL also supports ESPORTS", about that right... But we saw it coming unfortunately. | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On March 05 2013 09:56 Loomies wrote: "Today, game publishers are holding their own tournaments, which is why we are not ready to commit the resources at this time to run another major independent event. " Hmm... Game Publishers are following Riot's example of hosting their own tournaments. Honestly, the way publishers like Riot are handling their business operations is very bad for eSports. It's more of a "get rich quick" sort of mentality, rather than a real contribution to eSports. Big time players like IPL who are looking to not only support eSports, but also benefit from it and help it expand can not get what they need when the publishers of the titles they wish to support handle their game affairs so strictly and recklessly. Riot is the biggest example of What Not To Do If You Want eSports To Succeed. Don't get me wrong, I like playing LoL, but I really wish it would stop getting support as an eSports title, as it is corrupting the scene. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On March 05 2013 10:05 ninjamyst wrote: next exciting chapter? do you guys even have anything planned or you just saying that? The next exciting chapter is bankruptcy.  | ||
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AztecTemplar
United States117 Posts
I know some people will say that it's easy to just say it has been cancelled, but there's so much behind such a big event, some promoters and sponsors may have to be talked to, teams, venue, hotels to refund the money, etc. Regarding the whole they not being smart to please their fanbase. On one side, yes, they should take care of their fanbase that makes them what they are. On the other, they are businesses, they operate on cash flow and other variables. If their ticket sales/reservations/etc wasn't enough to cover the cost of holding such an event, they had to pull the plug. I agree it affects everyone who made the preparations and accommodations and such. But we are talking about a pretty big event. Going through with it may have cost IPL more than the benefit would bring. Even if that benefit is customer loyalty. How many people will be outraged vs how many people will go next time they do one, if they rebound? Usually the loyalty and interest of people will outweigh the outrage. They gave their explanation, did their best to secure refunds for people. That's as much as they needed/wanted to do. Should they have given away a free thank you present as its been suggested? IDK, maybe some of those people would've cancelled anyways, they probably have statistics for that. So I think they figure that they rather cancel, push through the negative response of the community and save their investment VS going through their event, take a big loss and keep the community happy. Because in the end the event is about SC, and whether people hate IPL for it or not, next time theres an event people will attend, both new and old. Because they will want to experience the tournament and everything it brings. It's a bad decision for the fans, but to them it probably made sense. | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
Rofl, the only reason that people still play SC2 is because of the BW legacy, that wont keep the game alive when the next big RTS drops. | ||
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