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HooK2000
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany139 Posts
February 17 2013 11:34 GMT
#141
This is very epic! Thanks for the great video!
@HooK2000 // youtube.com/hookt4
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
February 17 2013 11:36 GMT
#142
Cool video... very nostalgic, although the music made me want to sleep.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
February 17 2013 12:14 GMT
#143
Awesome video. :D
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Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
February 17 2013 12:27 GMT
#144
this brings back lots of memories. i don't know why but this video made me sad. i remembered how much i liked the game on release. i hope hots can do the same and there will be a good video like this in ~2016. amazing production and good choice of music.
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ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
February 17 2013 13:03 GMT
#145
This isn't a reflexion but an advertisement.
MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
February 17 2013 13:24 GMT
#146
Why is Stephano winning wcs Europe significant but no other wcs region is? .. Just lol
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
February 17 2013 14:29 GMT
#147
On February 17 2013 22:24 MateShade wrote:
Why is Stephano winning wcs Europe significant but no other wcs region is? .. Just lol


I think that's pretty obvious
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
Glenn313
Profile Joined August 2011
United States475 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 14:42:15
February 17 2013 14:37 GMT
#148
Amazing. ;D
Edit: Just saw the video. Beautiful.
Hey man
wwJd)El_Mojjo
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden173 Posts
February 17 2013 14:43 GMT
#149
Beautiful video!
Gc.El_Mojjo
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
February 17 2013 14:53 GMT
#150
Very nice little infographic. Thanks for putting that together.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Pugsly
Profile Joined February 2011
United States50 Posts
February 17 2013 18:00 GMT
#151
Great write up. Looking forward to another three years of awesome Starcraft [HOTS] action!
Thank You Based God
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 17 2013 18:15 GMT
#152
Should have been 90% MVP to be a true reflection of WoL.

Good work though.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
zerK
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada176 Posts
February 17 2013 18:27 GMT
#153
Wow awesome video by Millenium, this video actually made me sad, that its the end of wol, HOTS INCOMING <3
zerK the Zerg !
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
February 17 2013 19:07 GMT
#154
On February 17 2013 22:24 MateShade wrote:
Why is Stephano winning wcs Europe significant but no other wcs region is? .. Just lol

Because WCS EU was tournament of they year for me and the production was even better than the grand finals imo. Pretty much every single player had a story coming into it and all of them spoke English, making them much more likeable.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
algorithm0r
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada486 Posts
February 17 2013 20:45 GMT
#155
Very cool. Three years well spent! Bring on Heart of the Swarm!
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2144 Posts
February 18 2013 01:33 GMT
#156
Will be exciting to see if a KeSPA or eSF player will take the final GSL Code S. I think it will cause a lot of discussion if a KeSPA player takes it!
JunkkaGom
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 05:01:37
February 18 2013 04:58 GMT
#157
No mention of Fruitdealer?
Also GSL finals between Genius and DRG had about 5,000 live spectators.
GSL is Starcraft only tournament
Workload overwhelming. It is a good day to work
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
February 18 2013 06:36 GMT
#158
On February 16 2013 19:33 BeaSteR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 19:26 Nazca wrote:
3700 spectators at IS2, yes

3700? Europe finals had like 100k viewers

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Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
February 18 2013 06:39 GMT
#159
On February 18 2013 13:58 JunkkaGom wrote:
No mention of Fruitdealer?
Also GSL finals between Genius and DRG had about 5,000 live spectators.
GSL is Starcraft only tournament


This! <3
Have a nice day ;)
totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
February 18 2013 06:42 GMT
#160
On February 17 2013 19:26 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 14:51 totauksz wrote:
On February 17 2013 11:55 JJH777 wrote:
On February 17 2013 11:47 totauksz wrote:
On February 17 2013 11:36 JJH777 wrote:
Well the picture misses a ton and puts fan favorites over the players that actually won the most. Nestea isn't on there at all and MVP/MC are only one there once while Stephano is on there 3 times.

On February 17 2013 07:29 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 17 2013 05:35 JazzNL wrote:
9 months of Terran dominance, 6 months of Protoss dominance, 21 months of zerg dominance = WoL!


When did this happen?


These 2 posts are so biased lol. First of all since the game has released there has only 30-31 months of time so lol the first poster is an idiot. Terran dominance was way more than 9 months and zerg has only had like 4-5 months top. Terran dominance was basically from release to end of 2011 so like 18 months easily. They won the majority of the GSLs in that time and even the ones they lost they usually had the most in the ro8/ro4. They won tons of foreign tournament

Protoss dominance was like the first 7-8 months of 2012. People just don't actually look at results and over value 1st place compared to 2nd or compared to getting like 5 in the top 8 of an event. Zerg didn't start dominating right after the queen patch it took a while at least in ZvP (which they've actually never had significantly more than a 50% winrate in). They won WCS Korea, WCS Asia, WCS Global, WCG, TSL4, GSL, WCG Korea, HSC, Dreamhack, IEM, OSL etc. Their real dominance during this time wasn't in what they won though it was in ro4s, ro8s and 2nd places. They had the most players in the first 2 ro8s of GSL. They had a player in the finals of the first 2 GSLs. They had players in the finals of like 4 MLGs, IPL4, HSC, Asus Rog, NASL, etc. In the first MLG of the year even though the final was a TvZ Protoss had the most in the top 8.

Zerg dominance really only started with the last few GSLs/MLGs of the year and IPL5.


there wasn't even such a thing as protoss dominance. seed had a lucky streak and barely won over byun and symbol.. and protoss was always doing pretty good in foreign tournaments, but no domination at all. squirtle had 2 good runs in his whole career. if it wasn't for MC the results for the protoss race alltogether would be practically zero.


Seed didn't get lucky he said himself in his victory interview that the first 2 maps were bad vZ and he knew he wouldn't lose vs Symbol on the next 3. I guess he got a little lucky vs Byun but either way MC still would have made the finals. In the season Squirtle got to the finals there were 5 protoss in the ro8 and 3 in the ro4. If that's not domination then no race has ever dominated. Genius also got a finals appearance. WCS Korea, WCS Asia, and WCS global all had PvP finals with Protoss also having the most in the top 8. None of those were won by MC. Protoss have won plenty even if you discount MC. Plus if you want to play the: "well if you discount this players results then this race sucks!" then just look at 2012 Terran if you get rid of MVP. That's waaaay worse than Protoss without MC. Or look at 2010-2011 zerg without Nestea. They would have gone a year and a half without winning a GSL. From fruitdealers win all the way until DRGs.

it needs to be a constant dominating fashion in all matchups over a longer period of time


Zerg has never done this even during the heights of Protoss whining this year they never went significantly above 50% in ZvP for multiple months. The TLPD graphs were favoring Protoss while they were still being made.
http://i.imgur.com/KGYMYh.png

The last 3 months that a graph got made was Protoss favored. Then there is this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385829

all major tournaments from september-december and PvZ is 52% in Protoss's favor.


that includes like every tournament. try the tournaments with the highest average skill (mlg, gsl, ipl) and i'm pretty sure zerg rates are ridiculous since like half of those were top4 zerg only... cba to count them all though. your graph has like 1800 games of zvp in korea only, pretty sure 70% of that comes from irrelevant tournaments since gsl doesn't nearly have that many games... code a qualifiers and random tournaments skew the results because the skill level is very varying. gstl kinda skews the results since they are best of 1's and snipers can prepare anti-builds that only work once ever.
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