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On February 15 2013 05:03 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 17:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 14 2013 17:43 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:34 LuckyMacro wrote:On February 14 2013 16:30 dAPhREAk wrote: seems like a joke to me. nice pr move though. Aphrodite is actually quite good. Can at least take ladder games off some really good players once in awhile. Even if they are just ladder games. Ya, saw her win a crazy micro game against Vines once. I'm sure she wins other players regularly, we just don't know about it. Regardless, I have never been so stoked for a GSTL event. For over a year now, I've been really wanting to see them play. Pretty awesome they are getting their chance finally, and what better than a face-off? w00t ^__^ well, now that i have found out she wins ladder games....against Vines of all people....i will ignore the fact that they both have done nothing of note in their entire sc2 careers. its a joke, pr stunt. Have other girls done anything of note in their sc2 careers? Are there other girl pros who have won tournaments and made headway in the scene besides 'Scarlett'? Hmm so this is kind of a first isn't it? You should be encouraging it not demoralizing pro females in Starcraft. This community doesn't need naysayers like you guys. Since these two teams are the only teams with high level girl players...Its sort of fitting that they can open with each of them. Adds hype and it's pretty badass for me and other girls part of the GOSC. P.S. Either of these girls would stomp any of you 1v1 if you think its demoralizing to realize that they are only putting them on the stand because they are females then you're going to have a tough time in this world. thats absolutely what they are doing.
p.s. too bad they cant stomp anyone who plays the game professionally.
edit: i just remember where i have seen your name. you were the one who disapproved of scarlett joining the girl's group. maybe you should be more supportive of transgender with legitimate talent, and get off your high horse.
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Good luck to the girls, eSports needs more females, and I don't mean females bringing out trophies or handing out awards and just doing interviews. Good on the teams and gsl for setting this up.
If eSports really wants the big time sponsorship and to grow in the west, reaching the female audience would be the fastest way to grow.
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On February 15 2013 05:12 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 05:03 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 14 2013 17:43 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:34 LuckyMacro wrote:On February 14 2013 16:30 dAPhREAk wrote: seems like a joke to me. nice pr move though. Aphrodite is actually quite good. Can at least take ladder games off some really good players once in awhile. Even if they are just ladder games. Ya, saw her win a crazy micro game against Vines once. I'm sure she wins other players regularly, we just don't know about it. Regardless, I have never been so stoked for a GSTL event. For over a year now, I've been really wanting to see them play. Pretty awesome they are getting their chance finally, and what better than a face-off? w00t ^__^ well, now that i have found out she wins ladder games....against Vines of all people....i will ignore the fact that they both have done nothing of note in their entire sc2 careers. its a joke, pr stunt. Have other girls done anything of note in their sc2 careers? Are there other girl pros who have won tournaments and made headway in the scene besides 'Scarlett'? Hmm so this is kind of a first isn't it? You should be encouraging it not demoralizing pro females in Starcraft. This community doesn't need naysayers like you guys. Since these two teams are the only teams with high level girl players...Its sort of fitting that they can open with each of them. Adds hype and it's pretty badass for me and other girls part of the GOSC. P.S. Either of these girls would stomp any of you 1v1 if you think its demoralizing to realize that they are only putting them on the stand because they are females then you're going to have a tough time in this world. thats absolutely what they are doing. p.s. too bad they cant stomp anyone who plays the game professionally.
Dude you do know that they are masters or higher on korea ladder right... That means taking games off professionals. The way you are categorizing this as a PR stunt and a joke throughout this thread IS demoralizing, son.. and Vines used to play professionally right? sorry i may be confused but its probably you just being stupid.
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On February 15 2013 05:12 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 05:03 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 14 2013 17:43 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:34 LuckyMacro wrote:On February 14 2013 16:30 dAPhREAk wrote: seems like a joke to me. nice pr move though. Aphrodite is actually quite good. Can at least take ladder games off some really good players once in awhile. Even if they are just ladder games. Ya, saw her win a crazy micro game against Vines once. I'm sure she wins other players regularly, we just don't know about it. Regardless, I have never been so stoked for a GSTL event. For over a year now, I've been really wanting to see them play. Pretty awesome they are getting their chance finally, and what better than a face-off? w00t ^__^ well, now that i have found out she wins ladder games....against Vines of all people....i will ignore the fact that they both have done nothing of note in their entire sc2 careers. its a joke, pr stunt. Have other girls done anything of note in their sc2 careers? Are there other girl pros who have won tournaments and made headway in the scene besides 'Scarlett'? Hmm so this is kind of a first isn't it? You should be encouraging it not demoralizing pro females in Starcraft. This community doesn't need naysayers like you guys. Since these two teams are the only teams with high level girl players...Its sort of fitting that they can open with each of them. Adds hype and it's pretty badass for me and other girls part of the GOSC. P.S. Either of these girls would stomp any of you 1v1 if you think its demoralizing to realize that they are only putting them on the stand because they are females then you're going to have a tough time in this world. thats absolutely what they are doing. p.s. too bad they cant stomp anyone who plays the game professionally. edit: i just remember where i have seen your name. you were the one who disapproved of scarlett joining the girl's group. maybe you should be more supportive of transgender with legitimate talent, and get off your high horse.
Get off my high horse? before i go along with you derailing this thread, id like to say that i 'did' have a problem with her joining the group and getting so much attention for the Ironlady cup. Since then i have come to respect scarlet as a person and highly skilled player. Then seeing her take a game off DRG just affirmed my newfound respect for her. Not to mention that none of this has anything to do with the issue at hand. Isn't it lovely that people can grow and change there minds about things. Maybe you should do the same about this situation
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On February 15 2013 05:12 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 05:03 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 14 2013 17:43 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:34 LuckyMacro wrote:On February 14 2013 16:30 dAPhREAk wrote: seems like a joke to me. nice pr move though. Aphrodite is actually quite good. Can at least take ladder games off some really good players once in awhile. Even if they are just ladder games. Ya, saw her win a crazy micro game against Vines once. I'm sure she wins other players regularly, we just don't know about it. Regardless, I have never been so stoked for a GSTL event. For over a year now, I've been really wanting to see them play. Pretty awesome they are getting their chance finally, and what better than a face-off? w00t ^__^ well, now that i have found out she wins ladder games....against Vines of all people....i will ignore the fact that they both have done nothing of note in their entire sc2 careers. its a joke, pr stunt. Have other girls done anything of note in their sc2 careers? Are there other girl pros who have won tournaments and made headway in the scene besides 'Scarlett'? Hmm so this is kind of a first isn't it? You should be encouraging it not demoralizing pro females in Starcraft. This community doesn't need naysayers like you guys. Since these two teams are the only teams with high level girl players...Its sort of fitting that they can open with each of them. Adds hype and it's pretty badass for me and other girls part of the GOSC. P.S. Either of these girls would stomp any of you 1v1 if you think its demoralizing to realize that they are only putting them on the stand because they are females then you're going to have a tough time in this world. thats absolutely what they are doing. p.s. too bad they cant stomp anyone who plays the game professionally. edit: i just remember where i have seen your name. you were the one who disapproved of scarlett joining the girl's group. maybe you should be more supportive of transgender with legitimate talent, and get off your high horse.
She is a female fan of SC2 who is a big fan of EG, because they retweet her quite often. And I am with her on the subject that players should encourage women to join teams and play. If the two players were male, but totally unknown, we would not be having this discussion at all. The only reason you object to them being put out there is because they are women and that is the only reason they are playing the booth. It may be a factor, but you are wrong to assume it is the only reason. The community needs to get over it as a whole.
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On February 15 2013 05:38 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 05:12 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 15 2013 05:03 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 14 2013 17:43 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:34 LuckyMacro wrote:On February 14 2013 16:30 dAPhREAk wrote: seems like a joke to me. nice pr move though. Aphrodite is actually quite good. Can at least take ladder games off some really good players once in awhile. Even if they are just ladder games. Ya, saw her win a crazy micro game against Vines once. I'm sure she wins other players regularly, we just don't know about it. Regardless, I have never been so stoked for a GSTL event. For over a year now, I've been really wanting to see them play. Pretty awesome they are getting their chance finally, and what better than a face-off? w00t ^__^ well, now that i have found out she wins ladder games....against Vines of all people....i will ignore the fact that they both have done nothing of note in their entire sc2 careers. its a joke, pr stunt. Have other girls done anything of note in their sc2 careers? Are there other girl pros who have won tournaments and made headway in the scene besides 'Scarlett'? Hmm so this is kind of a first isn't it? You should be encouraging it not demoralizing pro females in Starcraft. This community doesn't need naysayers like you guys. Since these two teams are the only teams with high level girl players...Its sort of fitting that they can open with each of them. Adds hype and it's pretty badass for me and other girls part of the GOSC. P.S. Either of these girls would stomp any of you 1v1 if you think its demoralizing to realize that they are only putting them on the stand because they are females then you're going to have a tough time in this world. thats absolutely what they are doing. p.s. too bad they cant stomp anyone who plays the game professionally. edit: i just remember where i have seen your name. you were the one who disapproved of scarlett joining the girl's group. maybe you should be more supportive of transgender with legitimate talent, and get off your high horse. She is a female fan of SC2 who is a big fan of EG, because they retweet her quite often. And I am with her on the subject that players should encourage women to join teams and play. If the two players were male, but totally unknown, we would not be having this discussion at all. The only reason you object to them being put out there is because they are women and that is the only reason they are playing the booth. It may be a factor, but you are wrong to assume it is the only reason. The community needs to get over it as a whole. lol. where did i object to them being put in the booth?
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Omg I hate how Eve and Aphrodite are only playing because they are females.
And not because they are possibly the two best* female progamers in freaking Korea.
*no actual idea about this ;D
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On February 15 2013 05:38 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 05:12 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 15 2013 05:03 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 14 2013 17:43 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:34 LuckyMacro wrote:On February 14 2013 16:30 dAPhREAk wrote: seems like a joke to me. nice pr move though. Aphrodite is actually quite good. Can at least take ladder games off some really good players once in awhile. Even if they are just ladder games. Ya, saw her win a crazy micro game against Vines once. I'm sure she wins other players regularly, we just don't know about it. Regardless, I have never been so stoked for a GSTL event. For over a year now, I've been really wanting to see them play. Pretty awesome they are getting their chance finally, and what better than a face-off? w00t ^__^ well, now that i have found out she wins ladder games....against Vines of all people....i will ignore the fact that they both have done nothing of note in their entire sc2 careers. its a joke, pr stunt. Have other girls done anything of note in their sc2 careers? Are there other girl pros who have won tournaments and made headway in the scene besides 'Scarlett'? Hmm so this is kind of a first isn't it? You should be encouraging it not demoralizing pro females in Starcraft. This community doesn't need naysayers like you guys. Since these two teams are the only teams with high level girl players...Its sort of fitting that they can open with each of them. Adds hype and it's pretty badass for me and other girls part of the GOSC. P.S. Either of these girls would stomp any of you 1v1 if you think its demoralizing to realize that they are only putting them on the stand because they are females then you're going to have a tough time in this world. thats absolutely what they are doing. p.s. too bad they cant stomp anyone who plays the game professionally. edit: i just remember where i have seen your name. you were the one who disapproved of scarlett joining the girl's group. maybe you should be more supportive of transgender with legitimate talent, and get off your high horse. She is a female fan of SC2 who is a big fan of EG, because they retweet her quite often. And I am with her on the subject that players should encourage women to join teams and play. If the two players were male, but totally unknown, we would not be having this discussion at all. The only reason you object to them being put out there is because they are women and that is the only reason they are playing the booth. It may be a factor, but you are wrong to assume it is the only reason. The community needs to get over it as a whole. I'm confused as to what other factors you think are putting these girls in the booth. They clearly aren't the best players on their respective teams, and there is certainly at least one player on both teams who would make a better starter than either of them.
I don't actually care that they put girls out there; it doesn't bother me. But let's not pretend there are "other factors" behind this beyond their femininity.
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On February 15 2013 05:28 TheGiftedApe wrote: Good luck to the girls, eSports needs more females, and I don't mean females bringing out trophies or handing out awards and just doing interviews. Good on the teams and gsl for setting this up.
If eSports really wants the big time sponsorship and to grow in the west, reaching the female audience would be the fastest way to grow.
No, electronic-sports does not NEED more of females. Females NEEDS to get better at gaming. We shouldn't put pressure on them to compete, this process should be spontaneous.
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On February 15 2013 05:41 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 05:38 Plansix wrote:On February 15 2013 05:12 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 15 2013 05:03 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 14 2013 17:43 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:34 LuckyMacro wrote:On February 14 2013 16:30 dAPhREAk wrote: seems like a joke to me. nice pr move though. Aphrodite is actually quite good. Can at least take ladder games off some really good players once in awhile. Even if they are just ladder games. Ya, saw her win a crazy micro game against Vines once. I'm sure she wins other players regularly, we just don't know about it. Regardless, I have never been so stoked for a GSTL event. For over a year now, I've been really wanting to see them play. Pretty awesome they are getting their chance finally, and what better than a face-off? w00t ^__^ well, now that i have found out she wins ladder games....against Vines of all people....i will ignore the fact that they both have done nothing of note in their entire sc2 careers. its a joke, pr stunt. Have other girls done anything of note in their sc2 careers? Are there other girl pros who have won tournaments and made headway in the scene besides 'Scarlett'? Hmm so this is kind of a first isn't it? You should be encouraging it not demoralizing pro females in Starcraft. This community doesn't need naysayers like you guys. Since these two teams are the only teams with high level girl players...Its sort of fitting that they can open with each of them. Adds hype and it's pretty badass for me and other girls part of the GOSC. P.S. Either of these girls would stomp any of you 1v1 if you think its demoralizing to realize that they are only putting them on the stand because they are females then you're going to have a tough time in this world. thats absolutely what they are doing. p.s. too bad they cant stomp anyone who plays the game professionally. edit: i just remember where i have seen your name. you were the one who disapproved of scarlett joining the girl's group. maybe you should be more supportive of transgender with legitimate talent, and get off your high horse. She is a female fan of SC2 who is a big fan of EG, because they retweet her quite often. And I am with her on the subject that players should encourage women to join teams and play. If the two players were male, but totally unknown, we would not be having this discussion at all. The only reason you object to them being put out there is because they are women and that is the only reason they are playing the booth. It may be a factor, but you are wrong to assume it is the only reason. The community needs to get over it as a whole. I'm confused as to what other factors you think are putting these girls in the booth. They clearly aren't the best players on their respective teams, and there is certainly at least one player on both teams who would make a better starter than either of them. I don't actually care that they put girls out there; it doesn't bother me. But let's not pretend there are "other factors" behind this beyond their femininity.
I think they are playing because they are girls but what i believe is that there is nothing wrong with it. In fact, i wholly support it because we want more girls in the scene right? I mean do we really want a sausage fest? They may not be the best players on their teams.. but i think they are maybe the best girl players in Korea. I don't even think there are other girls on pro teams besides maybe Maddelisk and Flo. There may be more that i don't know of, but that's the point. We need to get them playing more.
For me at the end of the day; It isn't a 'PR stunt' or a 'Joke'. Its more of a good idea and a way to hype the tournament and bring more girls into the fold.
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On February 15 2013 05:47 FoxShine wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 05:41 Shiori wrote:On February 15 2013 05:38 Plansix wrote:On February 15 2013 05:12 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 15 2013 05:03 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 14 2013 17:43 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:34 LuckyMacro wrote:On February 14 2013 16:30 dAPhREAk wrote: seems like a joke to me. nice pr move though. Aphrodite is actually quite good. Can at least take ladder games off some really good players once in awhile. Even if they are just ladder games. Ya, saw her win a crazy micro game against Vines once. I'm sure she wins other players regularly, we just don't know about it. Regardless, I have never been so stoked for a GSTL event. For over a year now, I've been really wanting to see them play. Pretty awesome they are getting their chance finally, and what better than a face-off? w00t ^__^ well, now that i have found out she wins ladder games....against Vines of all people....i will ignore the fact that they both have done nothing of note in their entire sc2 careers. its a joke, pr stunt. Have other girls done anything of note in their sc2 careers? Are there other girl pros who have won tournaments and made headway in the scene besides 'Scarlett'? Hmm so this is kind of a first isn't it? You should be encouraging it not demoralizing pro females in Starcraft. This community doesn't need naysayers like you guys. Since these two teams are the only teams with high level girl players...Its sort of fitting that they can open with each of them. Adds hype and it's pretty badass for me and other girls part of the GOSC. P.S. Either of these girls would stomp any of you 1v1 if you think its demoralizing to realize that they are only putting them on the stand because they are females then you're going to have a tough time in this world. thats absolutely what they are doing. p.s. too bad they cant stomp anyone who plays the game professionally. edit: i just remember where i have seen your name. you were the one who disapproved of scarlett joining the girl's group. maybe you should be more supportive of transgender with legitimate talent, and get off your high horse. She is a female fan of SC2 who is a big fan of EG, because they retweet her quite often. And I am with her on the subject that players should encourage women to join teams and play. If the two players were male, but totally unknown, we would not be having this discussion at all. The only reason you object to them being put out there is because they are women and that is the only reason they are playing the booth. It may be a factor, but you are wrong to assume it is the only reason. The community needs to get over it as a whole. I'm confused as to what other factors you think are putting these girls in the booth. They clearly aren't the best players on their respective teams, and there is certainly at least one player on both teams who would make a better starter than either of them. I don't actually care that they put girls out there; it doesn't bother me. But let's not pretend there are "other factors" behind this beyond their femininity. For me at the end of the day; It isn't a 'PR stunt' or a 'Joke'. Its more of a good idea and a way to hype the tournament and bring more girls into the fold. Isn't that the exact definition of a PR stunt?
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I don't really know what's wrong with Eve and Aphrodite. This GSTL preseason is a PR campaign, isn't it ? Should we complain that GSTL preseason at first instead of complaining how two good female players start off
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On February 15 2013 05:47 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 05:47 FoxShine wrote:On February 15 2013 05:41 Shiori wrote:On February 15 2013 05:38 Plansix wrote:On February 15 2013 05:12 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 15 2013 05:03 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 14 2013 17:43 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:34 LuckyMacro wrote:On February 14 2013 16:30 dAPhREAk wrote: seems like a joke to me. nice pr move though. Aphrodite is actually quite good. Can at least take ladder games off some really good players once in awhile. Even if they are just ladder games. Ya, saw her win a crazy micro game against Vines once. I'm sure she wins other players regularly, we just don't know about it. Regardless, I have never been so stoked for a GSTL event. For over a year now, I've been really wanting to see them play. Pretty awesome they are getting their chance finally, and what better than a face-off? w00t ^__^ well, now that i have found out she wins ladder games....against Vines of all people....i will ignore the fact that they both have done nothing of note in their entire sc2 careers. its a joke, pr stunt. Have other girls done anything of note in their sc2 careers? Are there other girl pros who have won tournaments and made headway in the scene besides 'Scarlett'? Hmm so this is kind of a first isn't it? You should be encouraging it not demoralizing pro females in Starcraft. This community doesn't need naysayers like you guys. Since these two teams are the only teams with high level girl players...Its sort of fitting that they can open with each of them. Adds hype and it's pretty badass for me and other girls part of the GOSC. P.S. Either of these girls would stomp any of you 1v1 if you think its demoralizing to realize that they are only putting them on the stand because they are females then you're going to have a tough time in this world. thats absolutely what they are doing. p.s. too bad they cant stomp anyone who plays the game professionally. edit: i just remember where i have seen your name. you were the one who disapproved of scarlett joining the girl's group. maybe you should be more supportive of transgender with legitimate talent, and get off your high horse. She is a female fan of SC2 who is a big fan of EG, because they retweet her quite often. And I am with her on the subject that players should encourage women to join teams and play. If the two players were male, but totally unknown, we would not be having this discussion at all. The only reason you object to them being put out there is because they are women and that is the only reason they are playing the booth. It may be a factor, but you are wrong to assume it is the only reason. The community needs to get over it as a whole. I'm confused as to what other factors you think are putting these girls in the booth. They clearly aren't the best players on their respective teams, and there is certainly at least one player on both teams who would make a better starter than either of them. I don't actually care that they put girls out there; it doesn't bother me. But let's not pretend there are "other factors" behind this beyond their femininity. For me at the end of the day; It isn't a 'PR stunt' or a 'Joke'. Its more of a good idea and a way to hype the tournament and bring more girls into the fold. Isn't that the exact definition of a PR stunt? i was just about to post the same thing.
people. pr stunts arent bad. they are smart. as someone mentioned earlier in this thread, this will get a lot of views because people want to see some girl on girl action. there is nothing wrong with it, or the teams playing their females. but call a spade a spade for christ's sake.
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On February 15 2013 05:47 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 05:47 FoxShine wrote:On February 15 2013 05:41 Shiori wrote:On February 15 2013 05:38 Plansix wrote:On February 15 2013 05:12 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 15 2013 05:03 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 14 2013 17:43 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:34 LuckyMacro wrote:On February 14 2013 16:30 dAPhREAk wrote: seems like a joke to me. nice pr move though. Aphrodite is actually quite good. Can at least take ladder games off some really good players once in awhile. Even if they are just ladder games. Ya, saw her win a crazy micro game against Vines once. I'm sure she wins other players regularly, we just don't know about it. Regardless, I have never been so stoked for a GSTL event. For over a year now, I've been really wanting to see them play. Pretty awesome they are getting their chance finally, and what better than a face-off? w00t ^__^ well, now that i have found out she wins ladder games....against Vines of all people....i will ignore the fact that they both have done nothing of note in their entire sc2 careers. its a joke, pr stunt. Have other girls done anything of note in their sc2 careers? Are there other girl pros who have won tournaments and made headway in the scene besides 'Scarlett'? Hmm so this is kind of a first isn't it? You should be encouraging it not demoralizing pro females in Starcraft. This community doesn't need naysayers like you guys. Since these two teams are the only teams with high level girl players...Its sort of fitting that they can open with each of them. Adds hype and it's pretty badass for me and other girls part of the GOSC. P.S. Either of these girls would stomp any of you 1v1 if you think its demoralizing to realize that they are only putting them on the stand because they are females then you're going to have a tough time in this world. thats absolutely what they are doing. p.s. too bad they cant stomp anyone who plays the game professionally. edit: i just remember where i have seen your name. you were the one who disapproved of scarlett joining the girl's group. maybe you should be more supportive of transgender with legitimate talent, and get off your high horse. She is a female fan of SC2 who is a big fan of EG, because they retweet her quite often. And I am with her on the subject that players should encourage women to join teams and play. If the two players were male, but totally unknown, we would not be having this discussion at all. The only reason you object to them being put out there is because they are women and that is the only reason they are playing the booth. It may be a factor, but you are wrong to assume it is the only reason. The community needs to get over it as a whole. I'm confused as to what other factors you think are putting these girls in the booth. They clearly aren't the best players on their respective teams, and there is certainly at least one player on both teams who would make a better starter than either of them. I don't actually care that they put girls out there; it doesn't bother me. But let's not pretend there are "other factors" behind this beyond their femininity. For me at the end of the day; It isn't a 'PR stunt' or a 'Joke'. Its more of a good idea and a way to hype the tournament and bring more girls into the fold. Isn't that the exact definition of a PR stunt?
I'v always thought of PR Stunts as ways solely to get attention and its often used negatively. The word 'stunt'. Just saying that i don't think its negative at all and certainly not a joke. We don't have to go to far into word play do we.. Splitting hairs and all that.
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On February 15 2013 05:47 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 05:47 FoxShine wrote:On February 15 2013 05:41 Shiori wrote:On February 15 2013 05:38 Plansix wrote:On February 15 2013 05:12 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 15 2013 05:03 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:50 dAPhREAk wrote:On February 14 2013 17:43 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote:On February 14 2013 17:34 LuckyMacro wrote:On February 14 2013 16:30 dAPhREAk wrote: seems like a joke to me. nice pr move though. Aphrodite is actually quite good. Can at least take ladder games off some really good players once in awhile. Even if they are just ladder games. Ya, saw her win a crazy micro game against Vines once. I'm sure she wins other players regularly, we just don't know about it. Regardless, I have never been so stoked for a GSTL event. For over a year now, I've been really wanting to see them play. Pretty awesome they are getting their chance finally, and what better than a face-off? w00t ^__^ well, now that i have found out she wins ladder games....against Vines of all people....i will ignore the fact that they both have done nothing of note in their entire sc2 careers. its a joke, pr stunt. Have other girls done anything of note in their sc2 careers? Are there other girl pros who have won tournaments and made headway in the scene besides 'Scarlett'? Hmm so this is kind of a first isn't it? You should be encouraging it not demoralizing pro females in Starcraft. This community doesn't need naysayers like you guys. Since these two teams are the only teams with high level girl players...Its sort of fitting that they can open with each of them. Adds hype and it's pretty badass for me and other girls part of the GOSC. P.S. Either of these girls would stomp any of you 1v1 if you think its demoralizing to realize that they are only putting them on the stand because they are females then you're going to have a tough time in this world. thats absolutely what they are doing. p.s. too bad they cant stomp anyone who plays the game professionally. edit: i just remember where i have seen your name. you were the one who disapproved of scarlett joining the girl's group. maybe you should be more supportive of transgender with legitimate talent, and get off your high horse. She is a female fan of SC2 who is a big fan of EG, because they retweet her quite often. And I am with her on the subject that players should encourage women to join teams and play. If the two players were male, but totally unknown, we would not be having this discussion at all. The only reason you object to them being put out there is because they are women and that is the only reason they are playing the booth. It may be a factor, but you are wrong to assume it is the only reason. The community needs to get over it as a whole. I'm confused as to what other factors you think are putting these girls in the booth. They clearly aren't the best players on their respective teams, and there is certainly at least one player on both teams who would make a better starter than either of them. I don't actually care that they put girls out there; it doesn't bother me. But let's not pretend there are "other factors" behind this beyond their femininity. For me at the end of the day; It isn't a 'PR stunt' or a 'Joke'. Its more of a good idea and a way to hype the tournament and bring more girls into the fold. Isn't that the exact definition of a PR stunt?
A PR stunt is having the star of your TV show jump over a shark to boost ratings, getting married only to sell DVDs of the wedding and TV coverage then getting divorced the next day, having two people geting in a fist fight outside your store to get newspaper coverage. All of these are PR stunts that really happened.
Having two masters level players play SC2 on stage is not a stunt. Having them get in a cat fight on stage would be.
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I agree with SotG in that this shouldn't even be drama or news in the first place. Posting a thread is nothing but baiting.
Yes it's likely a publicity stunt, but so what? It's in a fun pre-season tourney for a beta of a game for a fairly meager amount of money, during which some of the teams' top players will be off playing in the IPL ESF seeding tourney anyway. It's not even part of the proper GSTL season. Find more important things to complain about, please.
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On February 15 2013 05:57 MCXD wrote: I agree with StoG in that this shouldn't even be drama or news in the first place. Posting a thread is nothing but baiting.
Yes it's likely a publicity stunt, but so what? It's in a fun pre-season tourney for a beta of a game for a fairly meager amount of money, during which some of the teams' top players will be off playing in the IPL ESF seeding tourney anyway. It's not even part of the proper GSTL season. Find more important things to complain about, please.
I completely agree.
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On February 15 2013 05:57 MCXD wrote: I agree with StoG in that this shouldn't even be drama or news in the first place. Posting a thread is nothing but baiting.
Yes it's likely a publicity stunt, but so what? It's in a fun pre-season tourney for a beta of a game for a fairly meager amount of money, during which some of the teams' top players will be off playing in the IPL ESF seeding tourney anyway. It's not even part of the proper GSTL season. Find more important things to complain about, please.
Becasue this is TL and we fight about stupid shit and love drama. If anyone is on stage at the GSL, I demend they be a professional SC2 player. This includes translators and other memebers of the production crew. No one who isn't a least masters level should be on that stage. If there are going to be female gamers playing, they need to have beaten at least 15 Code A players in best of sevens to even be in the booth. The replays from those games need to be provided to the public as well, to make sure that its true and that the code A players didn't throw the games because the girls are pretty.
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Clearily Aphrodite is going to swamp Eve....
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Oh gosh, Aphrodite is looks exactly like her name, a goddess of love......
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