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Fantasy Proleague '12-13 Round 3: No Breaks - Page 9

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Post your teams here and not in this thread please.
kc2siq
Profile Joined April 2012
United States319 Posts
January 28 2013 15:40 GMT
#161
On January 28 2013 12:01 monk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 10:20 kc2siq wrote:
On January 28 2013 10:01 hifriend wrote:
On January 28 2013 09:49 kc2siq wrote:
I really find it unfair to not be able to pick Stephano or Taeja for our anti-teams...

It would make more sense to just decrease their point value due to their lack of appearances. Hell, even the OP is giving advice not to pick the two... just feels off if it's suppose to be official and informational.

EDIT: When I mean decrease, I mean start with a decreased point value rather than let it decay overtime.

EG-TL has really messed up anti-team in the first two rounds. :/ Picking anti is supposed to be really hard but so far it's been easy in that regard. Kinda glad they're off limits because eg-tl has different priorities than other PL teams, and we even get to see line-ups in advance these days.


Good point. But why is Idra still allowed on anti-team? The low number of points on his part make up for him probably never going to play in PL. I feel like we can decrease their point values just enough so anti-team wouldn't be an obvious choice and make it so they're actually viable as part of one's team.

If we valued them appropriately(say ~7 points each), then their values would decrease too dramatically in weeks 2-5. Then, you'd be able to trade a very low valued player who did ok for Taeja/Stephano when they do play. Valuing them at 9 and making them un-antiteamable is the best solution we could come up with.

Oh, just realized this post explained it much better.


Yep, Mr bamboo explains it quite eloquently admittedly.

However, my main problem with your arguments is that it depends on if they actually do play consistently after 2-5 weeks like it's a foregone conclusion. For example, you trade a low valued player at say ~4 points for Stephano, he wins you 3 points and then he never plays again, to trade for him will still be a risky proposition with 2 points trading for him and trading him off if need be. Hell, it was stated previously that the reason they're valued so highly is because they're going to be ace players, but that seems like a huge IF considering EGTL's tendency to use JYP and Revival as Ace players.

Still, this is a sticky situation and every solution will probably be argued over so I'll stop being a whiny bitch and admit you guys did your best. lol. =P
Byun, best player in the world!
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
January 28 2013 15:57 GMT
#162
On January 29 2013 00:25 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 00:08 Zeon0 wrote:
On January 28 2013 22:50 Koerage wrote:
On January 28 2013 22:14 Zeon0 wrote:
JD and herO in your anti? Why would you do that?


herO faces JangBi and i hope that JangBi is going to beat him. JD only seemed to win ZvZ in proleague and he faced a hot dear so i (stupidly) thought it a safe bet to take JD and trade him off next week... now if im lucky and stephano becomes available that might be the best option even :S

JD beat MC in the HyperX tournament. MC then 4-0s his two Code S Zerg opponents. And then you think JD has a weak ZvP? I still dont get it^^


This is the same silly logic people use to "prove" things in football. The conditions are nowhere near the same from playing a tournament overseas with 0 preparation, to the most prestigious tournament on the world with more preparation and no potential for jetlag. Jaedongs weaker non mirrors are exactly why he's still in Code A.

thats how i explain, that JDs ZvZ is great, his ZvP is very good, his ZvT is not that great, but still above most of the Kespa guys
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
January 28 2013 15:58 GMT
#163
So much misplaced faith in EGTL... sigh.
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Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
January 28 2013 16:06 GMT
#164
JYP should've won a PvZ on Entombed :/

I was quite sure to sell him after week1, but now i think i wont get a good deal :/

At least JD did ok
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
January 28 2013 16:07 GMT
#165
Off to a good start, already -9 in total with soO, crazy-hydra and jaedong in anti-team. Hopefully CJ can rescue me tomorrow.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
January 28 2013 16:10 GMT
#166
I dunno what's up with Puma by the way lol. I hesitated to pick Classic because he is notoriously bad and even lost vs a foreigner, but Puma didn't even win in proleague and doesn't have kespa coaches to help him prepare decently.
Turned out to be a good choice, will have to see if Classic can win some other matches tho.
Sad that a NASL winner get trashed everytime he is sent out :/.
WriterMaru
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 16:19:55
January 28 2013 16:15 GMT
#167
YES!

Top 20!

That's how the STX Dunktrain rolls.

I wish I'd had Trap though...

Also was really counting on Flash....Dear didn't lose me points, but he should have won, I was stupid and didn't realize he was playing a PvZ on Caldeum, I'd have picked Trap > Dear in that case T_T

Oh well, i think Dear is the stronger player overall.
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ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 16:18:11
January 28 2013 16:17 GMT
#168
On January 29 2013 01:07 Kahzaar wrote:
Off to a good start, already -9 in total with soO, crazy-hydra and jaedong in anti-team. Hopefully CJ can rescue me tomorrow.

They have to. I have Effort, Hydra, Bbyong(doesn't play tomorrow, but still...) and CJ as team. If they mess up, I'm so terribly fucked :D
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Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
January 28 2013 16:26 GMT
#169
On January 29 2013 01:17 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:07 Kahzaar wrote:
Off to a good start, already -9 in total with soO, crazy-hydra and jaedong in anti-team. Hopefully CJ can rescue me tomorrow.

They have to. I have Effort, Hydra, Bbyong(doesn't play tomorrow, but still...) and CJ as team. If they mess up, I'm so terribly fucked :D

And I have Effort, Hero, Bong and Byong (and Leta) :D
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 18:18:21
January 28 2013 18:17 GMT
#170
On January 29 2013 01:15 VirgilSC2 wrote:
YES!

Top 20!

That's how the STX Dunktrain rolls.

I wish I'd had Trap though...

Also was really counting on Flash....Dear didn't lose me points, but he should have won, I was stupid and didn't realize he was playing a PvZ on Caldeum, I'd have picked Trap > Dear in that case T_T

Oh well, i think Dear is the stronger player overall.


Yeah well your Dunktrain aint got shit on my Faith. I took a screenshot that will be framed and put on the wall above the fireplace. Ego #5. I also want to give a shoutout to my boy Otolia.

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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 28 2013 20:05 GMT
#171
On January 29 2013 00:57 Zeon0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 00:25 Wingblade wrote:
On January 29 2013 00:08 Zeon0 wrote:
On January 28 2013 22:50 Koerage wrote:
On January 28 2013 22:14 Zeon0 wrote:
JD and herO in your anti? Why would you do that?


herO faces JangBi and i hope that JangBi is going to beat him. JD only seemed to win ZvZ in proleague and he faced a hot dear so i (stupidly) thought it a safe bet to take JD and trade him off next week... now if im lucky and stephano becomes available that might be the best option even :S

JD beat MC in the HyperX tournament. MC then 4-0s his two Code S Zerg opponents. And then you think JD has a weak ZvP? I still dont get it^^


This is the same silly logic people use to "prove" things in football. The conditions are nowhere near the same from playing a tournament overseas with 0 preparation, to the most prestigious tournament on the world with more preparation and no potential for jetlag. Jaedongs weaker non mirrors are exactly why he's still in Code A.

thats how i explain, that JDs ZvZ is great, his ZvP is very good, his ZvT is not that great, but still above most of the Kespa guys

JD only has good ZvZ atm, his ZvP is rather uninspiring
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
January 28 2013 20:10 GMT
#172
i missed the sign up timing window...truly disappoint.
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 28 2013 20:27 GMT
#173
Horrible start again.. Both rounds this season I had a terrible first week but I ended up in the top 100 somehow. :D
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
January 28 2013 20:29 GMT
#174
On January 28 2013 19:52 opterown wrote:
holy crap that was a lame day 1 for me. WJS to carry day 2 please!


Same here... altogether it amounted to exactly: 0 Points

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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 28 2013 22:24 GMT
#175
On January 29 2013 05:29 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 19:52 opterown wrote:
holy crap that was a lame day 1 for me. WJS to carry day 2 please!


Same here... altogether it amounted to exactly: 0 Points


i ended up on -4 rofl
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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E.H Eager
Profile Joined August 2011
United States227 Posts
January 28 2013 22:29 GMT
#176
Alright, so I pretty much called every game incorrectly day one. Granted only half my team played (the bottom half), but bogus was the only one to pull through.

Only person on egtl who won was jaedong and he is on my anti.
Ouch.
derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 28 2013 22:30 GMT
#177
Thanks to Dear I lost 6 points, and that, is fucking horrible.
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 28 2013 22:35 GMT
#178
Dayum 1k people chose soO, that's quite the surprise to me.
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Szgk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland112 Posts
January 28 2013 23:54 GMT
#179
To all the people saying stuff like:
On January 28 2013 22:41 Zeon0 wrote:
Why would you buy Action? He sucks in Zvt an ZvP and it was quite likely that he doesnt get to play on D1.

On January 29 2013 07:35 Salteador Neo wrote:
Dayum 1k people chose soO, that's quite the surprise to me.

Please remember that FPL - and Proleague in general - and probably all of Starcraft - is as much about calculating which player is better than the other as it is about gut feeling and belief. 1040 people have picked soO and 1391 picked SKT T1 because that's where our heart is.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
January 29 2013 00:01 GMT
#180
I picked SKT1 because they are cheap, not because of my heart
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
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