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ThorZaIN grabs MVP for Proleague Round 1 - Page 5

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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 05:43:29
January 10 2013 05:43 GMT
#81
I like Thorzain, but I feel that it's rather silly to give him MVP. I understand the significance of symbolic gestures, but it just doesn't work when the recipient's PL record is overshadowed by so many other players.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 10 2013 05:44 GMT
#82
Congrats (:
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 10 2013 05:44 GMT
#83
Uhh, I get the feeling someone else had: condescending.

Like a "Oh I guess foreigners can play a little bit too" award.

I'd love Thorzain to destroy PL as much as the next guy. But giving the MVP for his current record is a bit much.
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
January 10 2013 05:46 GMT
#84
Sadly he only got the reward because he's the only foreigner to win in so long. His 1 out of 4 wins isn't very impressive not to mention Classic isn't exactly the most top calibre player. I do enjoy the foreigner recognition though.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3291 Posts
January 10 2013 05:46 GMT
#85
Lol if they send out a foreigner enough times one of them should win eventually...
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Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
January 10 2013 05:46 GMT
#86
It's just about politics at the end of the day. Treat is as an 'encouragement award' from Kespa.
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starfinder
Profile Joined March 2012
Japan167 Posts
January 10 2013 05:47 GMT
#87
On January 10 2013 14:37 Whatson wrote:
Totally undeserved
Right now he's 1-5 in Proleague, and his only win came against Classic, and it wasn't even the ace match. I know he's the foreign hope blah blah blah but KeSPA could at least disguise this attempt to get more foreign viewers a little better.


Proleague is a real sports league.who has the authority to decide NBA season/month/week MVP?press group,not NBA.

In Proleague it's the same. Press group elected him,then he is. It's not KESPA's business.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 10 2013 05:51 GMT
#88
On January 10 2013 13:33 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
1-3 = MVP ? How unfair...

You forgot the +15 white guy bonus that all white guys get.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 05:53:53
January 10 2013 05:53 GMT
#89
On January 10 2013 14:47 starfinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 14:37 Whatson wrote:
Totally undeserved
Right now he's 1-5 in Proleague, and his only win came against Classic, and it wasn't even the ace match. I know he's the foreign hope blah blah blah but KeSPA could at least disguise this attempt to get more foreign viewers a little better.


Proleague is a real sports league.who has the authority to decide NBA season/month/week MVP?press group,not NBA.

In Proleague it's the same. Press group elected him,then he is. It's not KESPA's business.

Since the article says that "reporters from all around" submitted their votes, I'd love to know who actually voted for Thorzain.
And since you bring up the NBA

On January 10 2013 13:35 wptlzkwjd wrote:
This is like Jordan carrying the Bulls into the championship game 6 and some random white player on his team scores the last 2 points to win it and getting MVP for the tournament just for winning the game and being white.


If Thorzain weren't the only white guy in Proleague, he would get zero recognition. Foreign bias at its finest right there.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 10 2013 05:53 GMT
#90
That's nice and all, but I think it sounds more amazing than it actually is. Foreigners haven't played in Proleague for ages, of course there's opportunity to be the first foreigner to do such and such in Proleague. Not to take anything away from Thorzain, but the way a lot of these statements are made (I know this is just the translation) make it sound like so much more.
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 10 2013 05:58 GMT
#91
LOL thats so condescending towards foreigners. Dont get me wrong- I love thorzain but he went 1-3. How the hell does he deserve MVP? Taeja or JYP deserve it.
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
January 10 2013 06:02 GMT
#92
not gonna say he won because he was a foreigner... but he won because he was a foreigner
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wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 10 2013 06:04 GMT
#93
I wouldn't mind it if they gave ThorZain the biggest accomplishment award but MVP = Most Valuable Player...Is going 1-4 really the most valuable player on any team?
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NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
January 10 2013 06:04 GMT
#94
Well, good way to get more subscriptions. Good move by Proleague.
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chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
January 10 2013 06:05 GMT
#95
Interesting..umm..grats, I guess? I mean the choice is cool, isn't it.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33239 Posts
January 10 2013 06:05 GMT
#96
don't fucking patronize us
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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
January 10 2013 06:07 GMT
#97
it's cool that he's recognized but it's an empty gesture... :\
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 10 2013 06:10 GMT
#98
It should have been Stats, he went 5-0 in R1.
SweetNJoshSauce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States468 Posts
January 10 2013 06:10 GMT
#99
Strange seeing affirmative action work for a white male.

This is condescending, there were so many others that performed better
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 06:13:14
January 10 2013 06:11 GMT
#100
GG I guess...
I agree with Shellshock and Dodgin, Stats FTW
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