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honestly his dream is like watching many many comedians. many hearts to you sir!
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good luck ruff i enjoy your stream and i like your type of player!
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good luck in the future ruff.
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On January 10 2013 08:18 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 06:49 Zennith wrote:On January 10 2013 05:35 robzgod wrote:On January 10 2013 05:03 Zennith wrote:On January 10 2013 04:50 vVvRuFF wrote:On January 10 2013 01:29 LordJerith wrote:On January 09 2013 19:33 OptimusYale wrote: I heard OF vVv but assumed they died a long time ago 0.o Anyways gl on the future, sucks that you have to write your own 'I 'm leaving post'....I'm guessing vVv doesn't do well at promoting themselves? Sadly, we were a little too trusting here. Short answer: We decided to let Ruff go. When we informed of him of that decision, he requested that we do not make a post. We honored that request. It's unfortunate that he made this post without telling us that he was going to frame it as "he leftt." We wish Ruff the best of luck in his future endeavors. Sorry everyone, I should of made it a bit clearer when I posted. Leaves can be seen as removed and I am not trying to frame it as "I left". I am sure you understand that internet is one of the biggest forms of miscommunication out there. This post is simply here to inform people that I am still going to keep going in the StarCraft Community. Not as a form to banter and argue with vVv. To be removed because I am not posting in a forum to satisfy players in lower leagues is not how I want to approach this game. I want to be competetive and practice with known players like back in the day while streaming and doing tournaments. I posted on a good note, I would hope it stays that way. This much I buy. vVv has always had absurdly dumb unrelated requirements of their players. Below is a brief outline of our new expectations. If you think any of these are 'absurdly dumb' or unrelated then I don't know what else to say. + Show Spoiler + You actively engage your fan-base on multiple mediums, including Twitter and Facebook, live streaming, and written and video content
You actively pursue promotion of your organization, sponsors and brand, both in-game and out
You are consistently in communication with your organization and management in terms of team development and brand promotion
You follow a consistent practice schedule (which includes strategy discussion and game play review as well as in-game practice)
At events you represent and support your organization 100% of the time (including networking with other teams, wearing team and sponsored gear, and utilizing social media)
At events you work with staff and management to create promotional media for the organization (including photos, video, interviews, etc)
You know what, that all sounds reasonable if you're compensating someone well (although half of those are so vague that they could include getting in trouble for not posting on the community forums enough - which for a 'pro' player would absolutely be an absurd requirement). Are those players not being compensated also required to abide by these exact rules? They get their hotel paid for. That's good at least. But yeah for what they require from their players they give the players literally almost nothing while making them do a ton to get exposure. This is why they are irrelevant to the sc2 scene.
Hey blade! Thanks for your opinion ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
Where we really make things count is with our community and Aspire teams these days. Aspire is a great place for serious players to improve together and our community has a number of streamers and casters who are a great resource for anyone looking to improve in those areas.
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On January 10 2013 11:10 SugarBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 08:18 blade55555 wrote:On January 10 2013 06:49 Zennith wrote:On January 10 2013 05:35 robzgod wrote:On January 10 2013 05:03 Zennith wrote:On January 10 2013 04:50 vVvRuFF wrote:On January 10 2013 01:29 LordJerith wrote:On January 09 2013 19:33 OptimusYale wrote: I heard OF vVv but assumed they died a long time ago 0.o Anyways gl on the future, sucks that you have to write your own 'I 'm leaving post'....I'm guessing vVv doesn't do well at promoting themselves? Sadly, we were a little too trusting here. Short answer: We decided to let Ruff go. When we informed of him of that decision, he requested that we do not make a post. We honored that request. It's unfortunate that he made this post without telling us that he was going to frame it as "he leftt." We wish Ruff the best of luck in his future endeavors. Sorry everyone, I should of made it a bit clearer when I posted. Leaves can be seen as removed and I am not trying to frame it as "I left". I am sure you understand that internet is one of the biggest forms of miscommunication out there. This post is simply here to inform people that I am still going to keep going in the StarCraft Community. Not as a form to banter and argue with vVv. To be removed because I am not posting in a forum to satisfy players in lower leagues is not how I want to approach this game. I want to be competetive and practice with known players like back in the day while streaming and doing tournaments. I posted on a good note, I would hope it stays that way. This much I buy. vVv has always had absurdly dumb unrelated requirements of their players. Below is a brief outline of our new expectations. If you think any of these are 'absurdly dumb' or unrelated then I don't know what else to say. + Show Spoiler + You actively engage your fan-base on multiple mediums, including Twitter and Facebook, live streaming, and written and video content
You actively pursue promotion of your organization, sponsors and brand, both in-game and out
You are consistently in communication with your organization and management in terms of team development and brand promotion
You follow a consistent practice schedule (which includes strategy discussion and game play review as well as in-game practice)
At events you represent and support your organization 100% of the time (including networking with other teams, wearing team and sponsored gear, and utilizing social media)
At events you work with staff and management to create promotional media for the organization (including photos, video, interviews, etc)
You know what, that all sounds reasonable if you're compensating someone well (although half of those are so vague that they could include getting in trouble for not posting on the community forums enough - which for a 'pro' player would absolutely be an absurd requirement). Are those players not being compensated also required to abide by these exact rules? They get their hotel paid for. That's good at least. But yeah for what they require from their players they give the players literally almost nothing while making them do a ton to get exposure. This is why they are irrelevant to the sc2 scene. Hey blade! Thanks for your opinion ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Where we really make things count is with our community and Aspire teams these days. Aspire is a great place for serious players to improve together and our community has a number of streamers and casters who are a great resource for anyone looking to improve in those areas.
Right, and that's all well and good, but the point is, given the guidelines that were mentioned above, it's a bit, well, odd to ask that much of players and to give them so little in return.
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On January 10 2013 10:45 PiQLiQ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 10:23 pigmanbear wrote:On January 10 2013 09:58 PiQLiQ wrote:On January 10 2013 08:20 pigmanbear wrote:On January 10 2013 06:39 Regorr wrote: so much haters holy shit They're the type of people that lose to an unconventional strategy and type "ur shit try and win a real game" and leave. What are you talking about? The people ragging on RuFF calling him too aggressive, can't macro, etc. They think they know the One True Way to play SC ... people like that are bloody annoying! I learned along time ago that its no use talking or discussing stuff with people that cant play the game they play. That's why i rarely talk in my games mostly not to get involved in something that just wastes my time. So what im saying is that you should just ignore the people that has no clue what they are talking about. True that. Have a lot of respect for you as a player by the way, never do see you on peoples' streams anymore
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On January 10 2013 11:57 pigmanbear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 10:45 PiQLiQ wrote:On January 10 2013 10:23 pigmanbear wrote:On January 10 2013 09:58 PiQLiQ wrote:On January 10 2013 08:20 pigmanbear wrote:On January 10 2013 06:39 Regorr wrote: so much haters holy shit They're the type of people that lose to an unconventional strategy and type "ur shit try and win a real game" and leave. What are you talking about? The people ragging on RuFF calling him too aggressive, can't macro, etc. They think they know the One True Way to play SC ... people like that are bloody annoying! I learned along time ago that its no use talking or discussing stuff with people that cant play the game they play. That's why i rarely talk in my games mostly not to get involved in something that just wastes my time. So what im saying is that you should just ignore the people that has no clue what they are talking about. True that. Have a lot of respect for you as a player by the way, never do see you on peoples' streams anymore ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
Thanks Well mostly because i play on korean server under smurf nicknames for a long while now i guess ;]
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Good Luck buddy
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I destroyed you multiple times on ladder and you BMd everytime. I don't know why you think anyone cares about this... Hardly worth a thread.
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