EPTFormer TSL members Free Agency notice from eSF - Page 11
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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yyz
United States18 Posts
On January 08 2013 10:38 Fionn wrote: I want to buy Hyun. I have $2 I found under my couch. I'm in. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
symbol i think easy top korean team, center SHOULD get one too because he did so well in GSL hard for ragnarok as he is the most unknown one | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
Also I'll help on the funding for Hyun if we can throw Symbol in there too... should be a blast.  | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 08 2013 23:31 JustPassingBy wrote: I don't know. I would've preferred if the eSF just offered (hidden) advice to the players, with the possibility that the player can apply for representative negotiate in his stead, instead of channeling all negotiations through them. Even if they mean no harm to the players, such a move will ultimately harm the players as it makes them less easily approachable. Teams who thought of hiring them might think twice if they have to go through eSF, especially since the majority of the people probably don't know what the eSF is (what is their structure, who makes the decisions, what are the official channels). Isn't GOM the head of eSF now? If so it should be very easy for people to do actually since GOM has always been working with teams, other tournaments and organisations, etc. and most teams have had contact with GOM before. It could backfire but I think it's to prevent something like what happened to these ex-oGs players and so on. Just too many teams trying to quicktalk players to get them to sign bad contracts. I hope it works out well for them. | ||
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Risljaninasim
Netherlands228 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On January 08 2013 23:31 JustPassingBy wrote: I don't know. I would've preferred if the eSF just offered (hidden) advice to the players, with the possibility that the player can apply for representative negotiate in his stead, instead of channeling all negotiations through them. Even if they mean no harm to the players, such a move will ultimately harm the players as it makes them less easily approachable. Teams who thought of hiring them might think twice if they have to go through eSF, especially since the majority of the people probably don't know what the eSF is (what is their structure, who makes the decisions, what are the official channels). if a team doesnt know what the eSF is then they have no right trying to snag such a top player if a team didnt go through eSF then its very likely that the palyer gets a bad contract without realising it | ||
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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
I wouldnt be surprised at all if it turns out that a lot of these Koreans on foreign teams are getting paid shit compared to the foreigners. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On January 08 2013 23:42 Forikorder wrote: if a team doesnt know what the eSF is then they have no right trying to snag such a top player if a team didnt go through eSF then its very likely that the palyer gets a bad contract without realising it Well, that is certainly one opinion. I am just saying that the eSF should not babysit the player all the time and that the players should learn a bit about something as important as contract negotiations. The best way in my opinion is a direct contact between interested team and player, with eSF offering advice to the player and possibly intervening with a representative, should the player want it (e.g. if he is a bit overextended with the whole matter)*. edit: *and intervention should the eSF think the player is being taken advantage of, ofc. | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On January 09 2013 00:15 Eufouria wrote: What about the other TSL players? Did they not agree to be represented by ESL or were they signed by a Korean team before ESL made this announcement to the foreign teams? I tried searching through liquipedia, couldn't find any information, I guess they are already in talks with teams and eSF is handling it? As the OP stated that all players agreed. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On January 09 2013 00:01 JustPassingBy wrote: Well, that is certainly one opinion. I am just saying that the eSF should not babysit the player all the time and that the players should learn a bit about something as important as contract negotiations. The best way in my opinion is a direct contact between interested team and player, with eSF offering advice to the player and possibly intervening with a representative, should the player want it (e.g. if he is a bit overextended with the whole matter)*. edit: *and intervention should the eSF think the player is being taken advantage of, ofc. i guess your jsut for the korean players getting taken advantage of and put in a terrible contract :/ | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On January 09 2013 00:39 Forikorder wrote: i guess your jsut for the korean players getting taken advantage of and put in a terrible contract :/ Nope, in my theoretic scenario that I proposed, I explicitly stated that I expect the eSF to intervene. | ||
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Eskiya23
Netherlands105 Posts
Jokes aside, the ex-TSL lineup is full of GSL material, hope they find a good team. Polt, what is on your mind ? | ||
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On January 08 2013 23:42 Forikorder wrote: if a team doesnt know what the eSF is then they have no right trying to snag such a top player if a team didnt go through eSF then its very likely that the palyer gets a bad contract without realising it Wait, why is this "very likely"? Do you have no faith in the established progaming teams? I could understand people saying this about relatively new teams, and teams that have foul reputations. But most established teams know that what's best for the player often aligns with what's best for the team. | ||
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SpurvL
Sweden345 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On January 09 2013 01:07 Eskiya23 wrote: IPL_Hyun. Jokes aside, the ex-TSL lineup is full of GSL material, hope they find a good team. Polt, what is on your mind ? Polt's off to america silly  | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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