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Kfcnoob
Profile Joined January 2011
United States296 Posts
January 03 2013 12:30 GMT
#341
With the state of the game as it is, im not surprised that viewer numbers and sponsorships are going down. Hopefully hots will remove the stagnancy and recreate viewer/sponsor interest. :/

bi tsl :/
And Artosis sayeth "the one who kills many, but loses few, comes out ahead."
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
January 03 2013 12:33 GMT
#342
Noooooooooooooo! NSH next?
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
January 03 2013 12:34 GMT
#343
Im really sad
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
January 03 2013 12:36 GMT
#344
I hate that this is happening, but I can't say I'm all that surprised.

Revival leaving the team was probably the big hint towards this happening.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
immanentblue
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark110 Posts
January 03 2013 12:37 GMT
#345
The single best team at talent devopment in SC2 IMO... Fruitdealer, Puma, Symbol, Hyun, and who knows who else might have come out of there... allways looked forward to seeing new players from TSL... too bad they were so bad at everything else a team is supposed to be good at...
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 14:30:53
January 03 2013 12:45 GMT
#346
What scares me the most is that I thought NSH would disband first... (I still thought about TSL as a "Zerg Powerhouse", and thus as a team would stay in the scene with big names, etc.).
LiquipediaWanderer
Mystes
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany42 Posts
January 03 2013 12:46 GMT
#347
another sign of starcraft slowly declining?
i hope not
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 12:50:00
January 03 2013 12:48 GMT
#348
--- Nuked ---
Cauldron
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland125 Posts
January 03 2013 12:51 GMT
#349
Oh...

Hopefully players can find new solid teams!
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
January 03 2013 12:52 GMT
#350
God fucking damnit
So sad
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 03 2013 12:55 GMT
#351
on the bright side, TSL's top players like Polt, Symbol and HyuN can finally start getting paid, and travel to events once they get a team, or else go to KeSPA.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Mirror0423
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States175 Posts
January 03 2013 12:58 GMT
#352
If SC2 was big enough in Korea idt this would be that big of a problem.
Maybe the scene IS over saturated, and too many people want a piece of the pie. Well instead of knocking people out, you can grow the pie bigger?
Look at WemadeFox from BW. For a long time they didn't really have any decent results, and yet they survived for years with minimal results (maybe a shine here from Mind, or a shine there from Midas but never for more than 1 tournament), just solely on the fact that they were the team with Nada on it. I remember on 뒷담화, the program where the casters for OGN get together and talk about everything SC:BW related, when WemadeFox lost part of their sponsorship one of the times, and after discussing it for a while one of 'em saying "well they're gonna be fine, they still have at least Nada" If enough people are a fan of Nada then SOME company will sponsor them. But look at the Korean SC2 scene. MKP, life, any Korean SC2 player, do they have anywhere NEAR the Korean fanbase of any BW legends? I wouldn't be surprised if Nada alone back then(even "back then" was well past his prime I'll see if I can remember when it was exactly) had more Korean fans than TSL(even including Polt, Parting, and Revival's numbers), or Prime.
Similar stuff happened with the Woongjin Stars. If enough people watch it, then someone WILL sponsor them for brand exposure/image. When Korean Air Starleague happened, against on 뒷담화 Kim Carrier talked about how basically sponsors were almost lining up to sponsor OSL. While it's probably true that the Managers could've done more to find sponsors, also A TON of other people could've done more to make a better product. I mean honestly, do you think google has a hard time getting Android on phone manufacturing company's phones? If we have a good enough product it'll make everything easier for everyone involved.
Idk who exactly this is to blame. I'm sure everyone who's a fan of SC2, whether they liked TSL or not, is not a fan of this happening. I agree with a lot of people who already posted on here that something like this had to happen sooner or later, but that's only assuming that the game didn't succeed in Korea. If Blizzard/ESF did something to grow the scene I feel like this couldn't been prevented. Also I kinda don't like that defeatist attitude of "ehh it had to happen, nothing we could do". On the other side of that, I don't know if this can be stopped anymore. I mean even if blizzard did something radical for HOTS, I don't think it's going to bring the numbers of SC2 up to BW level.
GL to all ex-TSL players, and GL to all the ESF teams.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
January 03 2013 13:02 GMT
#353
On January 03 2013 21:58 Mirror0423 wrote:
If SC2 was big enough in Korea idt this would be that big of a problem.
Maybe the scene IS over saturated, and too many people want a piece of the pie. Well instead of knocking people out, you can grow the pie bigger?
Look at WemadeFox from BW. For a long time they didn't really have any decent results, and yet they survived for years with minimal results (maybe a shine here from Mind, or a shine there from Midas but never for more than 1 tournament), just solely on the fact that they were the team with Nada on it. I remember on 뒷담화, the program where the casters for OGN get together and talk about everything SC:BW related, when WemadeFox lost part of their sponsorship one of the times, and after discussing it for a while one of 'em saying "well they're gonna be fine, they still have at least Nada" If enough people are a fan of Nada then SOME company will sponsor them. But look at the Korean SC2 scene. MKP, life, any Korean SC2 player, do they have anywhere NEAR the Korean fanbase of any BW legends? I wouldn't be surprised if Nada alone back then(even "back then" was well past his prime I'll see if I can remember when it was exactly) had more Korean fans than TSL(even including Polt, Parting, and Revival's numbers), or Prime.
Similar stuff happened with the Woongjin Stars. If enough people watch it, then someone WILL sponsor them for brand exposure/image. When Korean Air Starleague happened, against on 뒷담화 Kim Carrier talked about how basically sponsors were almost lining up to sponsor OSL. While it's probably true that the Managers could've done more to find sponsors, also A TON of other people could've done more to make a better product. I mean honestly, do you think google has a hard time getting Android on phone manufacturing company's phones? If we have a good enough product it'll make everything easier for everyone involved.
Idk who exactly this is to blame. I'm sure everyone who's a fan of SC2, whether they liked TSL or not, is not a fan of this happening. I agree with a lot of people who already posted on here that something like this had to happen sooner or later, but that's only assuming that the game didn't succeed in Korea. If Blizzard/ESF did something to grow the scene I feel like this couldn't been prevented. Also I kinda don't like that defeatist attitude of "ehh it had to happen, nothing we could do". On the other side of that, I don't know if this can be stopped anymore. I mean even if blizzard did something radical for HOTS, I don't think it's going to bring the numbers of SC2 up to BW level.
GL to all ex-TSL players, and GL to all the ESF teams.


Everybody knows Blizzard fucked up somewhere with Sc2
rly ?
Lynda
Profile Joined May 2010
649 Posts
January 03 2013 13:02 GMT
#354
This is really sad.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 03 2013 13:06 GMT
#355
T.T
Zest fanboy.
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
January 03 2013 13:09 GMT
#356
natural selection
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
January 03 2013 13:14 GMT
#357
Sad... very sad.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
January 03 2013 13:14 GMT
#358
no.........
I miss you July ~~~ I was in PonyTales #7 wooho!
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
January 03 2013 13:15 GMT
#359
Why do Korean players keep staying on teams that don't pay a salary? Why restrict yourself by contract to an unpaid job when by staying as a free agent you could potentially get a paid job?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 03 2013 13:16 GMT
#360
I'm not surprised by TSL disband but I didn't see this coming that early. One of the saddest days in SC2 history. =(
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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