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Fantasy Proleague '12-13 Round 2: All-Kill! - Page 34

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View results and standings for Proleague Round 2 here.

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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 15 2013 23:32 GMT
#661
On January 16 2013 08:15 blagoonga123 wrote:
whoa just saw this guy's team
http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Team.php?team=El Pollo Loco&r=13

that's quite an anti-team

Try this one:

http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Team.php?team=x3nocide&r=13

And it wasn't even totally unreasonable to have an anti team like this at the start of the round.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
January 15 2013 23:34 GMT
#662
On January 16 2013 08:30 DifuntO wrote:
Having Taeja as a captain was a mistake.Only 1 point,i cannot trade him and i don't even know if he can actually play.

With the exception of Mini, Taeja of all players has gotten me the least points lol. He's my captain too x.x

There's still time though, if his wrists get better he can still string some wins together.

Cursed Jaehoon last season for ruining my anti, now blessing that wonderful man for single-handedly saving my team from being a complete disaster
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
January 15 2013 23:34 GMT
#663
On January 16 2013 08:32 InsidiA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 08:15 blagoonga123 wrote:
whoa just saw this guy's team
http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Team.php?team=El Pollo Loco&r=13

that's quite an anti-team

Wow, his team is actually so solid

yeah he actually has the highest base points on the site
(i have 4th highest woo!)
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
January 15 2013 23:35 GMT
#664
I long for an FPL round where every available player is actually able to play and does not either retire shortly after or decide to get wrist treatment without the team making it known in advance.

Other than that I am convinced now that the FPL system in its current form only really works well with the standard Proleague format. When only three games won in a row on a single night (because of All-Kill format) can propel an otherwise mediocre player up so much in trade value that you barely have any good options left to replace him with on anti, you realize this could not have been the original intention when the formulas were designed.

Now I can't wait for this round to be over. But GL HF to those who did not get screwed.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 15 2013 23:36 GMT
#665
On January 16 2013 08:35 Proseat wrote:
I long for an FPL round where every available player is actually able to play and does not either retire shortly after or decide to get wrist treatment without the team making it known in advance.

Other than that I am convinced now that the FPL system in its current form only really works well with the standard Proleague format. When only three games won in a row on a single night (because of All-Kill format) can propel an otherwise mediocre player up so much in trade value that you barely have any good options left to replace him with on anti, you realize this could not have been the original intention when the formulas were designed.

Now I can't wait for this round to be over. But GL HF to those who did not get screwed.


By the same token, somehow I have acquired Flash for Hydra
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
January 15 2013 23:41 GMT
#666
I traded Soulkey for soO and TaeJa for Terminator
I really regret picking both of them at the beginning now lol
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
January 15 2013 23:43 GMT
#667
On January 16 2013 08:34 crawlingchaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 08:30 DifuntO wrote:
Having Taeja as a captain was a mistake.Only 1 point,i cannot trade him and i don't even know if he can actually play.

With the exception of Mini, Taeja of all players has gotten me the least points lol. He's my captain too x.x

There's still time though, if his wrists get better he can still string some wins together.

Cursed Jaehoon last season for ruining my anti, now blessing that wonderful man for single-handedly saving my team from being a complete disaster


Yeah I also have Mini and Jaehoon on my team.I was going to trade him but fortunately i didn't. Revival and soO are doing ok
so we'll see.My goal is top 1000.
All I do is Stim.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
January 15 2013 23:50 GMT
#668
STX Soul, oh how far you have fallen.
andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 00:15:47
January 16 2013 00:07 GMT
#669
LOLOL you can trade Hydra for Flash or Rain. A 3pt guy for a 10 or 11pt guy. Wow, Hydra can be traded for anyone except Fantasy, Shy, and JangBi. I am seriously considering this, ramping my team up so that it's worth more than its 30 initial points. Everyone who picked Flash or Rain early got burned. I do not think Hydra will hold his value next week (the only way he does is if he gets another 3+ kills), so trade him while you can!

Right now my rank is #519. Not bad when I have JangBi on my anti-team and can only trade him for Fantasy or Shy
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
January 16 2013 00:15 GMT
#670
On January 16 2013 08:35 Proseat wrote:
I long for an FPL round where every available player is actually able to play and does not either retire shortly after or decide to get wrist treatment without the team making it known in advance.

Other than that I am convinced now that the FPL system in its current form only really works well with the standard Proleague format. When only three games won in a row on a single night (because of All-Kill format) can propel an otherwise mediocre player up so much in trade value that you barely have any good options left to replace him with on anti, you realize this could not have been the original intention when the formulas were designed.

Now I can't wait for this round to be over. But GL HF to those who did not get screwed.

We've had similar problems before with Flash and DRG dominating previous seasons. But at least those players were supposed to dominate and their initial values assigned to them reflected this. I think a big problem is that most of the Kespa players have extremely variable skill levels that it's really hard to assess true skill. After all, who could have expected 3 pointers like Hydra and free to all kill this round? This is of course in addition to the problem of volatility in an all-kill format.
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andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 00:29:31
January 16 2013 00:21 GMT
#671
On January 15 2013 20:44 Inviteme wrote:
what to do when youre at top 17 to get higher?? trade hardcore and risk all in or keep the same players? Im newbie

I need some EPIC advice


Play to win. Your team has Hydra, JangBi, and Speed. So does almost everyone above you. If those three keep doing well for you, you won't be able to move up the standings. The only way to move up is to hope your low-valued players make an incredible run, or if you trade your high-valued players and diversify, hoping that you win in trade value over people who stand pat. Far more people stand pat than make bold trades -- only 27 people traded for Hydra this week, and those who did got up to a whopping +16 in trade value.

So yeah, I suggest you trade. Standing pat is almost certain to not work in your case.
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
January 16 2013 00:25 GMT
#672
Apparently, because I didn't manage my team one week, I had MajOr on my main team...traded him this week for Bisu and also traded HuK for Thorzain, oh, and really wish I could have gotten Crazy Hydra off my anti team this week, got burned sooooooo bad by him...
Steam: rook492
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
January 16 2013 00:37 GMT
#673
LOL who knew Jaehoon would have the most points on my team hahahaha
Also, STX Soul wtf I thought you'd win a few at least.
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 01:06:07
January 16 2013 00:56 GMT
#674
Rank 2! I can do this before the end of the season. :3

I still stand by my opinion that my team is the most solid as a team. XD
There is no one like you in the universe.
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 01:04:58
January 16 2013 01:03 GMT
#675
jaehoon pushing me to rank 99 ^_^ very nice

On January 16 2013 09:56 Blisse wrote:
Rank 2! I can do this before the end of the season. :3


awesome dood!!!
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
January 16 2013 01:09 GMT
#676
sitting comfortably at 43 right now but my downfall might be not picking a different 1 point player. Chose Mini because I thought he would get a few snipes for STX but I guess not... also had the same rationale for Puma but EG-TL has so many other better players that it doesn't look like he'll get any playtime

also Flash wtf
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 01:24:25
January 16 2013 01:16 GMT
#677
This is the highest I have gotten, and it happened today.
[image loading]
Heck yes. FINALLY Jaehoon does something this round.
Edit: just realized that if I hadn't boarded the HuK hype train and traded thorzain for him I would be 100 places higher. Dang it!
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mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
January 16 2013 02:14 GMT
#678
Hovering around rank 300 this week. Kind of unfortunate netting very few points in the last 2 days due to the all kills.

I'm not too worried about the large trade value jumps so much as the low trading frequency. If we got to trade twice as often this would be manageable. We have what, 3 trade windows for 28 series of BO7. The last time we did fantasy GSTL, we had 30series of BO7 spanning 10 weeks. thats 9 trade windows. That's triple the trade opportunities for essentially the same number of games.

Look at my trades in GSTL (http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/gstl/Team.php?team=mrbamboo&r=1)
I made 17 trades netting a gain of 41 points after trade tax. That's less than 3 points gain per trade. But making consistently good decision over a long period of time helps mitigate short term risks/variance. For proleague I doubt I'd make more than 4 trades total, nearly all of which is dictated by which EGTL player will be out of town or sick. For one there is 1/3 the trade windows, for two, having a lot more matches between trade period meaning you are not angling for a specific scenario, and that risk is diluted by the other 10 matches going on this week that could make just as many FPL points and negate your gain for the trade. More frequent trades also mean that the value of each player only change a little bit each time, and you get to use that new information to make more decisions and you are not punished as severely for any single decision.

I mean there's not much TL can do about it, the matches are back to back, and not consistently updated on time on the fantasy system. People will complain if there is only a 4 hour window to trade between between the 1st and 2nd set of matches in the week. GSTL with FXO + grubby and Axiom Acer is starting soon. I hope the format lends itself well to fantasy and we can get both FPL and FGSTL going at the time .
darksub
Profile Joined July 2010
Argentina302 Posts
January 16 2013 02:15 GMT
#679
Down to #154.

Now lets wait for lineups
divide et vinces
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
January 16 2013 02:19 GMT
#680
I am still in the negative from Wooki
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