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On December 30 2012 05:58 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 05:47 OhThatDang wrote:On December 30 2012 05:34 papalion wrote:On December 30 2012 05:15 SonKiE wrote:
Why would you ever consider going to a pro GAMING house in POLAND? or even in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? cause those are team houses You mean frat houses? @topic Weird to make a topic about this subject and post a link to a PDF. Sure some of the big boys do that but when you try to act like them it comes out like the taco you ate last night. Some people have been hurt and goes on a tantrum, community explodes because OFC THEY KNEW a pro gaming house in Poland couldn't actually work! Oh wait it did. With better results than most pro team houses, or frat houses.
Why you gotta hate on my teamm!! ahaha
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I'm glad they take this serious at least and address the community...
That said:
PLEASE take aggressive steps to improving the MoW business. Right now it seems like "X issue occurs" and then we wait a few days and MoW replies "Not THAT bad. But yeah we need to make it better" this has happened 4-5 times on a pretty large scale so far.
The idea of a scheduled, training facility that encourages streaming and improving is amazing. Side tourneys is a cool bonus. But Snute left and the most PR I see on MoW being "SEE? THIS WORKS!" is a mention in a press release on how you aren't in fact closing your doors and you kinda do pay people.
Get staff that can feed these guys normally, coach them and motivate them to train, include some physical exercise and then BLAST the PR. Healthier, better nerds leaving your place is an amazing accomplishment and important for this community. More drama and a failed experiment is NOT needed.
Anyone from MoW: If you need help I volunteer myself to help in any way I can from here.. I know it ain't much but know that there is at least that. Just PM/tweet me or w/e,
GL!
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We were hurt by many of your opinions simply because we spent many months
working on this project, and we did all of this for the gamers, but that does not matter as we did all of
this, because we love eSports
It's unfortunate their feelings got hurt, good thing they did it all for the gamers....these are good people!!
Our house existed not only because of our hard-working staff, but also thanks to you guys, the
community, which we appreciate and thank for the comments
<333, np, bruh.
Kevin did an amazing job during Battle at Ministry of Win: get outPlayed,
for which he will get paid
oh, that makes sense--you pay people you employ!
Unfortunately, we have a delay with paying out the salaries for which we
are very sorry. We promise that it will not happen in the future.
np, credibility: +3/+3
This reminds me a bit of NASL Season 1, or any government grant gone wrong (solar subsidies, usa), they got the monies, but no ability. But, if NASL is anything like MoW, we can expect MoW:4 to be very good? Money fixes stuff.
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Hahaha that quintuple posting from IdrA :D
Well... hope they learned something if they give it another go next year.
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You cannot not pay people because you don't feel they did a good job. You can terminate their contract but you cannot simply not pay them for the time they did work. Reading the press release made me feel that MoW didn't understand this.
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step your work up bitches or shit will get crazy really fast.
EDIT:and i dont mean your PR work although kittens are appreciated
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I don't really know what to think about it.
I want to stay positive and give them my support but there are so many reasons not to trust them anymore...
Sadly, I can't think of anyone that would WANT to go to MoW after all this.
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4 consecutive posts from IdrA is normally bannable no?
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Backseat modding is normally bannable. Yes.
MoW seems to be floundering. Empty statements and poor business practice from the get go.
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The most important thing I have to ask the Ministry of Win after looking really closely at their press release is...
How do you like Microsoft Office 2013 preview? Is it working pretty well for you? Think you might buy it, or are you going to stick with 2010 until after the first few patches?
(The actual Press Release is more standard, professional fare. No kittens. Limited information, but what are you expecting with the possibility of litigation hanging around?)
Also, I think IdrA could've used just one post, maybe with spoilers, and gotten the same effect rather than using five posts. This isn't twitter, you can use more than 140 characters. iNcontroL also has good business ideas for the MoW. Hope they listen to both as they move forward.
(Note: The point about IdrA is stylistic, not antagonistic.)
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it's like idra could read my mind... :D
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On December 30 2012 05:15 SonKiE wrote:
Why would you ever consider going to a pro GAMING house in POLAND?
User was warned for this post
whats wrong with poland? Dbag
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I hope we don't move toward a future where players have to participate in 3rd party team houses in order to train well. Team houses sponsored by the actual teams have far less drama and are far better managed because the team has an incentive to provide the best quality environment they possibly can as opposed to trying to make money off pros.
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On December 30 2012 05:38 True_Spike wrote:
Ministry of Win recently took part in a competition organized by "Puls Biznesu" - a Polish business news organization. BBI Seed Fund, Puls Biznesu and a few other potential investors were to invest in the best looking project. Feedback was enourmous and so they decided to back five different projects, instead of one. The biggest piece of the cake, however, which is about 4 million PLN (roughly 1,3 million USD) went to the Ministry of Win. Since the project was already paying dividends by that time, I would truly expect the MoW to arise anew, enhanced and more refined in the upcoming year.
I do hope that they will finally invest in proper staff (people who are actually qualified for the job rather than just being friends with whoever is running the project). Let's hope a PR specialist and a proper, fucking, translator will be among them. The idea behind the project is bloody fantastic and will probably defend itself for a while longer, but amateur hour has to stop. Otherwise, the show won't continue for much longer, even with the recent money injection in mind.
Iunno why people are ignoring this post. I think this is huge and is faaaaar more important than to post the same shit all over again - "ya, no information whatsoever in that statement" "wtf pdf? y u no write, c/p here?" "MoW such a joke" etc etc.
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On December 30 2012 06:57 napo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 05:38 True_Spike wrote:
Ministry of Win recently took part in a competition organized by "Puls Biznesu" - a Polish business news organization. BBI Seed Fund, Puls Biznesu and a few other potential investors were to invest in the best looking project. Feedback was enourmous and so they decided to back five different projects, instead of one. The biggest piece of the cake, however, which is about 4 million PLN (roughly 1,3 million USD) went to the Ministry of Win. Since the project was already paying dividends by that time, I would truly expect the MoW to arise anew, enhanced and more refined in the upcoming year.
I do hope that they will finally invest in proper staff (people who are actually qualified for the job rather than just being friends with whoever is running the project). Let's hope a PR specialist and a proper, fucking, translator will be among them. The idea behind the project is bloody fantastic and will probably defend itself for a while longer, but amateur hour has to stop. Otherwise, the show won't continue for much longer, even with the recent money injection in mind. Iunno why people are ignoring this post. I think this is huge and is faaaaar more important than to post the same shit all over again - "ya, no information whatsoever in that statement" "wtf pdf? y u no write, c/p here?" "MoW such a joke" etc etc.
Maybe, just maybe, this needed to be in the press release instead of the trashtalk about Artist's parents ?
But yeah, i agree, this is a good news.
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On December 30 2012 06:19 iNcontroL wrote:
I'm glad they take this serious at least and address the community...
That said:
PLEASE take aggressive steps to improving the MoW business. Right now it seems like "X issue occurs" and then we wait a few days and MoW replies "Not THAT bad. But yeah we need to make it better" this has happened 4-5 times on a pretty large scale so far.
The idea of a scheduled, training facility that encourages streaming and improving is amazing. Side tourneys is a cool bonus. But Snute left and the most PR I see on MoW being "SEE? THIS WORKS!" is a mention in a press release on how you aren't in fact closing your doors and you kinda do pay people.
Get staff that can feed these guys normally, coach them and motivate them to train, include some physical exercise and then BLAST the PR. Healthier, better nerds leaving your place is an amazing accomplishment and important for this community. More drama and a failed experiment is NOT needed.
Anyone from MoW: If you need help I volunteer myself to help in any way I can from here.. I know it ain't much but know that there is at least that. Just PM/tweet me or w/e,
GL!
I think you're expecting way too much from them. :/
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live Q&A in a week and a half....someone needs to prepare.
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MoW. Ripping off players seems to be their biggest achievement.
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On December 30 2012 06:40 Galetmonster wrote:
4 consecutive posts from IdrA is normally bannable no?
it would be
thats why i did 5
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