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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
December 07 2012 09:58 GMT
#161
Who exactly are IEG anyway?
Bashnek
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia895 Posts
December 07 2012 09:59 GMT
#162
On December 07 2012 18:42 DoA wrote:
I based the post I made on the information I was given. I never apologized to Kespa nor do I feel I did anything wrong itn making the thread.. I spoke today with IEG and took the post down after finding that my information wasn't totally accurate. Nothing more.

IEG seems to be legit in wanting to provide a good broadcast for the global scene and it's a shame things are off to a rough start. I'll be casting the Proleague opener with Monte Cristo on their stream tomorrow as a favor to them and Kespa from OGN.

Game on.


I like you, keep it up dude.
/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Chrian
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1472 Posts
December 07 2012 09:59 GMT
#163
On December 07 2012 18:42 DoA wrote:
I based the post I made on the information I was given. I never apologized to Kespa nor do I feel I did anything wrong itn making the thread.. I spoke today with IEG and took the post down after finding that my information wasn't totally accurate. Nothing more.

IEG seems to be legit in wanting to provide a good broadcast for the global scene and it's a shame things are off to a rough start. I'll be casting the Proleague opener with Monte Cristo on their stream tomorrow as a favor to them and Kespa from OGN.

Game on.


Glad you'll get to cast the opener at least. Looking forward to it, good luck going forward dude.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
December 07 2012 09:59 GMT
#164
On December 07 2012 18:55 mouzKaelaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 18:46 LiamBrady wrote:
Kaelaris just said in Scarlett's stream chat he was offered to cast it but can't:

[image loading]


I should come clarify this actually, just stumbled across this after wanting to read DoA's post he just tweeted.

IEG approached me about it and were very charming about the whole process, no bad blood at all from my end. Despite enjoying the idea of casting in Korea, and especially a Team League, I have a lot of loyalty to a company (ESL) that picked me up and in essence, took a risk with a no-namer at the time. I adore working for ESL because of the freedom they give me to pursue all aspects of casting I deem necessary in order to further myself. I'm not saying working at IEG/KeSPA wouldn't have, and if they'd have approached me at another time in my Career then maybe it would have been an option, but for now, if I were to just pack up and leave to Korea, I would have to face the adaptation to a new culture, I would be burning bridges with commitments I have in EU etc. This decision was running rampant in my mind for the past few days but, someday i'll get to go to Korea to cast so all is good : )

There's plenty more reasons but no real need to divulge such minor information.

Understood. You are one of the best caster analysts we have out there. Keep up the good work!
gm.tOSS
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany898 Posts
December 07 2012 10:00 GMT
#165
On December 07 2012 18:56 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 18:54 gm.tOSS wrote:
Thats great, that there will be an english stream. As someone just coming back to the scene: Where can I watch it?

.......Really? This is at the very top of the first post... ~_~
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:17 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Update: KeSPA source confirms there WILL be English commentary for opening day matches. No word on specific casters.

Live Streaming (Korean): Naver, TVing, Youtube (www.youtube.com/esportstv)
Live Streaming (English): Twitch.tv (www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague)


Source: KeSPA


Sorry, I thought this was a different thread. So many threads on this topic :/ Thanks for pointing it out though. My bad.
HuK HuK HuK | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | There is death in the hane.
Sylfyre
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia222 Posts
December 07 2012 10:01 GMT
#166
On December 07 2012 18:55 mouzKaelaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 18:46 LiamBrady wrote:
Kaelaris just said in Scarlett's stream chat he was offered to cast it but can't:

[image loading]


I should come clarify this actually, just stumbled across this after wanting to read DoA's post he just tweeted.

IEG approached me about it and were very charming about the whole process, no bad blood at all from my end. Despite enjoying the idea of casting in Korea, and especially a Team League, I have a lot of loyalty to a company (ESL) that picked me up and in essence, took a risk with a no-namer at the time. I adore working for ESL because of the freedom they give me to pursue all aspects of casting I deem necessary in order to further myself. I'm not saying working at IEG/KeSPA wouldn't have, and if they'd have approached me at another time in my Career then maybe it would have been an option, but for now, if I were to just pack up and leave to Korea, I would have to face the adaptation to a new culture, I would be burning bridges with commitments I have in EU etc. This decision was running rampant in my mind for the past few days but, someday i'll get to go to Korea to cast so all is good : )

There's plenty more reasons but no real need to divulge such minor information.


Holy mother of respect, that loyalty is insanely good see.
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
December 07 2012 10:02 GMT
#167
So Doa and Monte rescues Kespa when they realized they made a huge mistake yet Kespa tries to save face by attacking the very people that saved their hides. Good on you kespa.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
December 07 2012 10:03 GMT
#168
On December 07 2012 18:58 tomatriedes wrote:
Who exactly are IEG anyway?

International E-Sports Group Incorporated. - taken from the stream background image on twitch... lol
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
December 07 2012 10:08 GMT
#169
It's amazing how many people think KeSPA are straight up crooks that hate everything in the world.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 07 2012 10:08 GMT
#170
I feel even more violated reading that press statement than i did after DoA's posts.

*shudders*

Well, as long as we get streams it's all good, right?
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
December 07 2012 10:09 GMT
#171
good to hear all is well
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
December 07 2012 10:09 GMT
#172
On December 07 2012 17:17 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Update: KeSPA source confirms there WILL be English commentary for opening day matches. No word on specific casters.

snip

The association and IEG are urgently putting together the resources for an English broadcast, and are doing their best to not only reach a satisfactory agreement with OnGameNet, but also ensure and unhindered broadcast.


Combining that with Doa saying he'll cast opening day matches, can I conclude we only get English for the opening day matches from Doa, then nothing until they get their production ready and find casters willing to work for them?

Am I on the right page here? They're certainly trying to spin this and present it like less of a clusterfuck than it truly is. OGN was ready to go, I guess the idea was to pressure OGN into stricter terms and conditions? I feel like kespa was using us as some kind of leverage.. I don't know, it's hard to tell what's what.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
THF
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom20 Posts
December 07 2012 10:11 GMT
#173
So let me get this straight. DoA is supposed to cast the English PL, based on an agreement between OGN (DoA's employer) and KeSPA (PL owner). He has been preparing for the cast for a long time.

Two days before the PL starts, negotiations between OGN and KeSPA break down, as KeSPA wanted to have their own additional caster, and wanted to produce the English broadcast through their proxy company, IEG.

As a result, OGN decides to walk away from the altered deal. DoA makes a post about how there will be no OGN-run English broadcast. This causes a community uproar, especially as a lot of people mistook it for "there will be no English broadcast" instead of "no OGN-run English broadcast".

KeSPA then throws a fit, slanders DoA, and pretty much confirms everything above - that OGN is not doing the English broadcast, and only gonna provide the video feed, that there are ongoing conflicts between KeSPA/OGN/IEG.

Finally, KeSPA later confirms there will be English cast, done by who-knows-who, using the OGN produced video. All this happening within 48 hours before the actual event.

And it's somehow all DoA's fault?

Yeah right, I know where I'm on this one.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
December 07 2012 10:14 GMT
#174
On December 07 2012 19:03 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 18:58 tomatriedes wrote:
Who exactly are IEG anyway?

International E-Sports Group Incorporated. - taken from the stream background image on twitch... lol
A quick Google suggests that they were somehow involved with the CPL(Cyberathlete Professional League), were tied to the MvP Invitational, and have been active in removing Downfall parody videos (what?). Also, weren't they somehow involved with eSTRO? And is this all the same IEG/
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 07 2012 10:14 GMT
#175
Well, glad we got the information like a day before everything started. Good job.
SicPro
Profile Joined March 2011
United States202 Posts
December 07 2012 10:15 GMT
#176
Kespa is the biggest bunch of backalley snakes from what I can tell. I bet DoA had it right on the money, they just like to cover their asses whenever possible. Yeah okay Kespa.... you guys are perfect and everyone else are the ones who mess things up.... okay.
_(aka Probasaur)_ "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Hunter S. Thompson
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
December 07 2012 10:16 GMT
#177
On December 07 2012 19:14 bduddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 19:03 Elite_ wrote:
On December 07 2012 18:58 tomatriedes wrote:
Who exactly are IEG anyway?

International E-Sports Group Incorporated. - taken from the stream background image on twitch... lol
A quick Google suggests that they were somehow involved with the CPL(Cyberathlete Professional League)


Haha, please tell me that's not true because I feel like I'm getting cast for the sequel of jaws 2.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Vindicate
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
December 07 2012 10:16 GMT
#178
On December 07 2012 19:11 THF wrote:
So let me get this straight. DoA is supposed to cast the English PL, based on an agreement between OGN (DoA's employer) and KeSPA (PL owner). He has been preparing for the cast for a long time.

Two days before the PL starts, negotiations between OGN and KeSPA break down, as KeSPA wanted to have their own additional caster, and wanted to produce the English broadcast through their proxy company, IEG.

As a result, OGN decides to walk away from the altered deal. DoA makes a post about how there will be no OGN-run English broadcast. This causes a community uproar, especially as a lot of people mistook it for "there will be no English broadcast" instead of "no OGN-run English broadcast".

KeSPA then throws a fit, slanders DoA, and pretty much confirms everything above - that OGN is not doing the English broadcast, and only gonna provide the video feed, that there are ongoing conflicts between KeSPA/OGN/IEG.

Finally, KeSPA later confirms there will be English cast, done by who-knows-who, using the OGN produced video. All this happening within 48 hours before the actual event.

And it's somehow all DoA's fault?

Yeah right, I know where I'm on this one.


This, basically. I have far more faith in Doa than I do in Kespa. Doa has tried time and again to bring viewers good content and has made such huge efforts to grow SC2 amongst foreign fans. Kespa, on the other hand, is known to try to rule everything SC related with an iron fist and is concerned solely with their own agenda.
I back Doa 100% on this and find it hilarious than Kespa still has credibility with anyone.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
December 07 2012 10:18 GMT
#179
On December 07 2012 19:08 Hier wrote:
It's amazing how many people think KeSPA are straight up crooks that hate everything in the world.


Sniper lovers....
cresse
Profile Joined July 2012
United States59 Posts
December 07 2012 10:19 GMT
#180
On December 07 2012 19:08 Hier wrote:
It's amazing how many people think KeSPA are straight up crooks that hate everything in the world.


I find it hard to believe anyone is really THAT anti KeSPA, I mean come o-

On December 07 2012 19:15 SicPro wrote:
Kespa is the biggest bunch of backalley snakes from what I can tell. I bet DoA had it right on the money, they just like to cover their asses whenever possible. Yeah okay Kespa.... you guys are perfect and everyone else are the ones who mess things up.... okay.


Oh. Okay. Kind of boggles my mind sometimes but people are entitled to their opinion I guess.

At the end of the day we have an English cast, which is a good thing. Looking forward to enjoying the games.
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