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Im so dumb for putting Baby on my anti team -___- The top team's anti picks seem obvious in retrospect, I just wasn't really basing all my decisions off of actual knowledge.
At least Jangi finally showed up.
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Why is everybody worth 0 in trades right now?
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Well, gg my season. Goddammit cj
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On December 27 2012 22:37 Zeon0 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 16:04 DyEnasTy wrote:On December 27 2012 08:42 Zeon0 wrote: u all should get stars for the last week(look at their opponents) Yeah stars have been great... (losing to STX). I even had a brief chance to trade Bogus for Flash but decided not too. Really bad mistake. So was having Sea as captain, and putting Baby on anti right off the bat. I know now what I want to do for next round. yeah, they didnt do too well, but look at their opponents. they should win both matches at least 4-2 as I said: get Stars^^
4-1 and 4-0
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FPL round 2 signups are starting soon right? :D
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all kill format fpl is soooo volatile, make the wrong high value pick and you are fucked
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Alright. Fuck round 1. I made some really dumb desicions. Like trading KT away for Cj this last week of round 1.Think I lost 13 points just doing that
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I traded JYP for Hydra in week 2, undisputed shit-trade champion in here.
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On January 01 2013 17:37 derpface wrote:Alright. Fuck round 1. I made some really dumb desicions. Like trading KT away for Cj this last week of round 1.Think I lost 13 points just doing that 
It wasn't a dumb decision. It was a perfectly smart and calculated decision, but Proleague decided to be weird. -_-
And yes, I've done that too.
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why did you get CJ instead of Stars?
look at the hybrid league winrates for SC2. CJ had the second to worst winrate in sc2 (after ACE), Stars had the best one (by a pretty large margin). I think people overrate the good run of herO at the first few playdays too much, i dont think we will see herO amongst the top players by the end of this PL. And in addition to that, i dont know about Effort too. But his ZvZ is good, i have to admit that
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On January 01 2013 17:46 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2013 17:37 derpface wrote:Alright. Fuck round 1. I made some really dumb desicions. Like trading KT away for Cj this last week of round 1.Think I lost 13 points just doing that  It wasn't a dumb decision. It was a perfectly smart and calculated decision, but Proleague decided to be weird. -_- And yes, I've done that too. 
I agree. I thought about well and long and thought it was a smart decision.
But it was only a matter of time before Khan would get a win and I dont even know what happend vs Team 8. Honestly I think I calculate way much over who is likely to lose and so on.
Need to go more with gut feeling and chance in the future.
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On January 01 2013 17:44 ChaosSmurf wrote: I traded JYP for Hydra in week 2, undisputed shit-trade champion in here.
I got Trap for anti AFTER his first two matches. Now he is -12.
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On December 31 2012 23:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 22:54 Pyloss wrote: Rain just gave me 8 points in just one CL. So good. :D I'm hoping for 12p but I'm not sure if I got it right Lineup Appearance: +1 Point Game Win: +2 Points 6-Game Win Streak: +2 Points Ace Appearance: +1 Point Ace Win: +4 Break Another Player's Streak: +1 Point Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point *the 6-Game win streak is probably wrong, idunno
You were right!#
So this was a good week, i got 29 points, and only -3 from my anti team. Finaly i'm back in the top 2000, now 1568, good stand.
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I think my team did fairly well. Sure one never played, should have gotten Fantasy instead of soO (of course I picked the zerg) and Bbyung wasn't the best 4p-non-skt-balance-choice. But all in all pretty good.
I don't know what to expect of the next season but I feel pessimistic about the format for it.
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+ Show Spoiler [Previous posts] ++ Show Spoiler [Initial Team] +Team : Woongjin Stars - 3pI didn't want to go anywhere near Rain's family, nor did I think that EG-TL would crush face like TL writers expect them to. So among the rest, I had to choose between Woongjin, Samsung and STX. Even though Khan was a finalist last season, they have the team with the least impressive individual results so far and they cost 4 instead of 3 for the two other so it was eliminate there. Soul have the best individual players on paper ( Bogus and Last) but the mastery Stars showed in the first round of the last PL made me fan. 2 of their players qualified for Code A, sin doing it against zergs including someone named Vampire, aka Sniper's clone; while 3 of them also reach the finals ( free, BisAnG, ZerO). Not to mention sHy and Neo.G_Soulkey were in Code S. This team has tremendous potential with a whole bunch of youngsters. Captain : Neo.G_Soulkey - 8pPlayers : Among the players that were in Code S this season and who went down to Code A, Bbyong is the cheapest (4p) and the fact that he will likely share ace matches with Effort which makes him a wise pick. Then I wanted another reliable player for a decent price a protoss would have been best but none were that impressive for 4p. ZerO and Shine both fill that spot but I couldn't decide yet. After that I wished to pick 2 protosses because in Bo1, those are always a good thing to have so one under 3p among { BisAnG, free, Wooki} and one over 5p among { Trap Stork, Flying, JangBi} was a good move for me. I believe BisAnG is the best player among the 1p players, his ability to reach Code B finals twice in a row (losing to win-hungry San in the last one) tells me that, however I don't think he is ranked that highly in his team and he shouldn't see that much playing time yet. As such I picked a combination that was likely to play often and which one of them will do well : [Wooki,JangBi]. Lastly I wanted a terran but they are either WAY too costly for what they are { Bogus, Last, Flash, BaBy} or their level is quite unknown like { PuMa, ThorZaIN, hOn_sin, Classic}. I was determined to pick of the last group and decided to go for hOn_sin just because he his almost guaranteed to win his game against a totally unknown player who will be hard pressed to cheese on a map like Arkanoid. Anti - team : I am not sure BeSt will have a bad season/day but in the bigger scheme of things, I have to avoid picking against teams that I think could win in the end and he weights quite a few points in a team where he will end up behind Rain all the freaking time anf if Bisu comes back well, he can almost kiss his spot good bye. sKyHigh looks like an overrated player in a team that won more on BW than on SC2 last time and Zenio has been slumping for a while and with the recruitment of Jaedong, he will go after him in the line-up. + Show Spoiler [1st Week Wrap-up] +Team : Woongjin Stars ( -1p) Tough first week for WS with a 1-4 defeat. But with T8 as the only cheaper team, I have to trust myself on this one. To KeepCaptain : Neo.G_Soulkey ( 0p) Lost his match against Bbyong but should do well in the future. Players : Bbyong (4p) Won his match against Soulkey confirming his Code A results. Keeper
ZerO (0p) Dissapointing loss on a Terran favored map. Likely to be traded
Wooki (4p) Satisfying win for a protoss that should see regular play. Keeper
JangBi (0p) I was expecting more from him. On probation
hOn_sin (1p) Didn't play but was on the line-up. Undecided Anti - team : BeSt (4p) I was expecting him to be the contrary of JangBi, but that's not the case. Likely to be traded
sKyHigh (4p) Apparently not as bad as foreseen. On probation
Zenio (0p) Seemed completely lost against Flash. Keeper
+ Show Spoiler [1st Week Trades & 2nd Week Preview] +I decided not to trade anyone for this first week after seeing the match-ups : - Bbyong is likely going to stay on my line-up for a while. He can go 2-0 this week and 1-1 at worst.
- ZerO was playing BeSt so I decided to trust him once more, and ends up locking both on the lineup. The risk of ZerO going 1-1 is high because he plays Flash in the second part of the week but BeSt plays him and BaBy and I expect BaBy to crush BeSt granting me a potentiel 0-2 for BeSt this week.
- Wooki should win against Sang and free, continuing to make a strong impression on everyone.
- Sin is too cheap to be traded right now, though I thought about trading him for Mind but they face each other on the second part of week one and decided not to risk the trade penalty for that.
- JangBi has to perform against Dear because he won't against TaeJa. His stock is falling rapidly and I might have to trade him for a lesser protoss in a more successful team.
- sKyHigh is only playing one match and I think Last has what it takes to crush him. Zenio is in a similar situation playing only RorO.
+ Show Spoiler [2nd Week Wrap-up] +Team : Woongjin Stars ( 10p) Great week for WJS with a weel earned 4-3 win over SKT and a quick 4-0 over KT. It's too bad they lost against CJ on the first day because with that level of play I can see them winning all the remaining matches. Next week will be tough with a EG-TL team that is looking for points and an under-performing STX that is bound to bounce up eventually. KeeperCaptain : Neo.G_Soulkey ( 14p) He isn't one of the few KeSPA Code S by accident. He won all of games including a Ace Match and is riding a 3-0 streak. Players : Bbyong (5p) Lost against Jaedong but won against Trap. He may not be as powerful as I thought be he certainly delivers, plus he is on a team that keeps on winning. Keeper
ZerO (8p) HOLY SHIT BATMAN ! I was wondering why the WJS kept on playing him on Bifrost, well he single-handedly proved that Bifrost isn't a Terran favored map. He earned his spot until the end. Keeper
Wooki (5p) A win once again for this up-and-coming protoss. The only bad point about him is that he plays on KT. Keeper
JangBi (1p) My biggest disappointment so farn and it is doubled by the fact that Samsung Khan plays terribly as a whole. The trade possibilities aren't that huge but I need to make the most out of his spot before it's too late. Traded
hOn_sin (8p) He may not be the cleanest player out there but he gets shits done. No wonder he is ahead of Light right now. Keeper Anti - team : BeSt (4p) I wanted to trade him for Stephano last week but couldn't because he was too high (0.62p too much if I remember correctly) and now he continues to win when it matters. Traded
sKyHigh (2p) Apparently not as bad as foreseen. Traded
Zenio (4p) Wasn't fielded against CJ but won against RorO, Traded
+ Show Spoiler [2nd Week Trades & 3rd Week Preview] ++ Show Spoiler [3rd Week Wrap-up] +Team : Woongjin Stars ( 3p) This week was a bit underwhelming as they narrowly defeated EG-TL and were bested by STX Soul. I believe that WJS should have sent sHy instead of Soulkey against Soul. Next week should be fairly keen on them with Khan and Team 8 on the menu. KeeperCaptain : Neo.G_Soulkey ( 6p) Losing an ace match in this fashion must be very upsetting. For me Soulkey is still by far the best KeSPA zerg out there and it's not even close. Players : Bbyong (3p) He won against BeSt but lost against Flash, however because his team lost twice, he ends up with not that much point. Maybe traded
ZerO (4p) ZerO was supposed to be the king of ZvZ in BW but he failed against Jaedong. He won against Size though. Keeper
Wooki (6p) Another week another 6 points. I wonder what KT feeds its team, these guys aren't any good in GSL but they certainly deliver in PL. Keeper
SonGDuri (3p) He followed the same scenario as Bbyong, had I kept JangBi, I would have had 2 more points. Likely traded
hOn_sin (1p) Tough week for him as he faced 2 Code S opponents and ended up losing both games. Next week isn't that much better. Maybe traded Anti - team : BeSt (2p) Finally lost both of his games. A bit too late to have any influence on my scores. SKT won twice. Maybe Traded
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Stephano (1p) Didn't play, EG-TL only won once. Keeper
Zenio (4p) Lost again free, EG-TL only won once. Maybe Traded
+ Show Spoiler [3rd Week Trades & 4th Week Preview] +Team : Woongjin Stars - The last and easiest week for WJS with Samsung Khan and Team 8. It is to be noted that CJ Entus also play the same opponents. - Team 8 is fielding their usual line-up which is playing not as badly as people would expect. The match-ups for this game are OK but not overly favorable to WJS. Among the 4 first players, sHy and ZerO will win, Soulkey should too. free (like every other WJS Protoss not named sHy) has been losing a lot but won last week against Zenio - a victory that proved to be capital. I am hoping he can repeat again otherwise we will see Sin and BaBy play. Sin has proven he can win against other good terrans but he is still very inconsistent. The last match-up is Light against Sang which should seal the deal for WJS should the former players not grant them a quick match.
- Samsung Khan is a team that failed. There is no other description of what is happening. They have a strong top 5 (Stork, JangBi, Reality, RorO, Shine) on paper but they seem unable to gain any form of consistency. It is difficult to predict the match because all of their players bar hOpe are somewhat good but they fail one after another. sOs, Soulkey and ZerO are heavy favorites, while Sin and Light are still not completely proven but could end up winning anyway. Aria won't probably play.
Captain : Neo.G_Soulkey - Soulkey was bested by Dear last week and showed weakness in ZvP, in a matchup where there is plenty of possibilities for zergs that is worrying but Soulkey has to prove he is a top player and go back to winning asap and finish the Round 1 with a 7-2 record. Players : Bbyong - Even though I'm not sure he will win against Stork, he is fairly consistent in his TvZ and will win versus Ryul2. The only other reasonable trade was sKyHigh and I think Bbyong is better than him.
ZerO - Anything different from a 2-0 would be surprising as he plays Speed (on TDA) and RorO (on CK). Woongjin zerg power !
Wooki - Sniping Protoss all round long. He plays Rain and Dear. I would have traded him for any protoss on Cj or WJS that was playing twice but sHy and herO are way too expensive.
SonGDuri traded for Light- Had I traded JangBi for Action last week, I could have gain 5 points. Now I am stuck with SonGDuri. He isn't a bad player by any mean but he isn't as flashy as Action or Wooki. Though he is in CJ, I prefer going with Light as I cannot undermine the fact that the latter was 5-1 in SC2 in the hybrid PL.
hOn_sin - It's another tricky week for Sin but the glimpse of greatness we saw in Week 2 could well repeat this week. BaBy isn't a slouch by any means and Reality already beat BaBy in week one. I was hesitant to trade him for Crazy-Hydra as the KT zerg plays JyJ and hyvaa but since I went for Reality in my Anti, I have to be consistent with my decisions. Anti - team : BeSt - FINALLY OUT ! Thank god I didn't traded him last week or I would have lost way more points.
Stephano - Still in France. He isn't playing and EG-TL has a tough week.
Zenio traded for Reality - He only plays once but again a zerg that isn't very good. I can see him winning so I traded him. Among my choices were 3 terrans {Classic, Reality and Speed} Classic play ThorZaIN and even though I believe in our swedish friend, I can't bet on that. Speed plays ZerO (and will lose) but he also plays the terrible Hydra and could end up winning. Reality plays Sin and herO and there is no way he will beat herO. I went for Reality in the end banking on my Sin boy.
Team : Woongjin Stars (14p) After a tough 3rd week, Stars started the year beautifully by crushing both Khan and Team 8. I thought that WJS would win 4-0 twice but ZerO dropped the ball. Every other player delivered.
Captain : Neo.G_Soulkey (6p) Calm week for Soulkey as he only played once and won against Jaehoon.
Players : Bbyong (0p) Bbyong is a token of CJ downfall. Let's go over a loss to Stork, a middle class player, and focus on the loss against Ryul2. This kind of loss is unacceptable for a player of his caliber.
ZerO (5p) 1-1 once again for ZerO. For someone who is being sent out often, he is quite shaky. I
Wooki (6p) Another week another 6 points. *nuff said*
LighT (6p) He didn't play in the first match but won convincingly in the second winning against Stork.
hOn_sin (8p) I ended up keeping him on the roster and I did well. He bested BaBy and Reality and gives me the most points he could have this week.
Anti - team : BeSt (1p) Didn't play, SKT only won once.
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Stephano (1p) Didn't play, EG-TL only won once.
Reality (1p) Lost both his games but Khan somehow won against CJ.
Coming up next : Round 1 Review.
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are the scores of the last 2 matches calculated in? If so, i guess i didnt do too bad, almost hit the top 1000 and i got the best anti-team (with trades), so i won something right
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On January 01 2013 21:58 Koerage wrote:are the scores of the last 2 matches calculated in? If so, i guess i didnt do too bad, almost hit the top 1000 and i got the best anti-team (with trades), so i won something right  No they aren't.
Fuck yeah, Stars, the 4-0 should propel me further than I ever was. Top 30 here I come.
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So do we have to completely repick the roster for round 2? And is it completely new round or do the points from the previous rounds add up?
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Review of Round 1: The Good:
Flash: Will pick Flash through and through, did not disappoint as always. Although his TvT is a big concern (seems to be substantially weaker than his rest of his match ups; still a top 5 FPL points getter.
Fantasy: Team's secondary Ace; on a stacked SKT team; one of the best players in PL, another top 5; and one of the highest bang for the buck players in the FPL
Crazy-Hydra: Good value for being 3rd man on the team; as expected he did reasonably well when he was sent out, raised his stock for the following trade with Jangbi in week 4 which broke even.
The meh:
Ryul2: Thought he'd do a lot better; extremely slow start got better near the end especially capping it off behind CJ's ace: herO
The bad:
PuMa/ Mind: I thought he'd do well..but Puma never failed to disappoint in FPL; has been one of the biggest busts.
Terminator: After his epic Bill Costi entrance; his ID; his original prowess in the hybrid PL and his run in GSL; I thought he would do a lot better...he was going to be sent out regardless but my god his results were horrifying.
The terrible: STX Soul: Misclicked for KT Rolster; cost me big time. The Core of Bogus/Last/hyvaa has been VERY underwhelming. Anti-Team Jaehoon : I can't recall the last time he did this well..wtf happened??
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