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Fantasy Proleague '12-13 Round 1 - Page 88

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Immaterial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada510 Posts
January 01 2013 05:25 GMT
#1741
Im so dumb for putting Baby on my anti team -___- The top team's anti picks seem obvious in retrospect, I just wasn't really basing all my decisions off of actual knowledge.

At least Jangi finally showed up.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1950 Posts
January 01 2013 06:35 GMT
#1742
Why is everybody worth 0 in trades right now?
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 01 2013 06:38 GMT
#1743
Well, gg my season. Goddammit cj
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
January 01 2013 08:12 GMT
#1744
On December 27 2012 22:37 Zeon0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 16:04 DyEnasTy wrote:
On December 27 2012 08:42 Zeon0 wrote:
u all should get stars for the last week(look at their opponents)


Yeah stars have been great... (losing to STX).

I even had a brief chance to trade Bogus for Flash but decided not too. Really bad mistake. So was having Sea as captain, and putting Baby on anti right off the bat. I know now what I want to do for next round.

yeah, they didnt do too well, but look at their opponents. they should win both matches at least 4-2

as I said: get Stars^^

4-1 and 4-0
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
January 01 2013 08:16 GMT
#1745
FPL round 2 signups are starting soon right? :D
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 01 2013 08:27 GMT
#1746
all kill format fpl is soooo volatile, make the wrong high value pick and you are fucked
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derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 01 2013 08:37 GMT
#1747
Alright. Fuck round 1. I made some really dumb desicions. Like trading KT away for Cj this last week of round 1.Think I lost 13 points just doing that
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
ChaosSmurf
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom175 Posts
January 01 2013 08:44 GMT
#1748
I traded JYP for Hydra in week 2, undisputed shit-trade champion in here.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 01 2013 08:46 GMT
#1749
On January 01 2013 17:37 derpface wrote:
Alright. Fuck round 1. I made some really dumb desicions. Like trading KT away for Cj this last week of round 1.Think I lost 13 points just doing that


It wasn't a dumb decision. It was a perfectly smart and calculated decision, but Proleague decided to be weird. -_-

And yes, I've done that too.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 08:56:11
January 01 2013 08:53 GMT
#1750
why did you get CJ instead of Stars?


look at the hybrid league winrates for SC2. CJ had the second to worst winrate in sc2 (after ACE), Stars had the best one (by a pretty large margin). I think people overrate the good run of herO at the first few playdays too much, i dont think we will see herO amongst the top players by the end of this PL. And in addition to that, i dont know about Effort too. But his ZvZ is good, i have to admit that
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 01 2013 08:56 GMT
#1751
On January 01 2013 17:46 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 17:37 derpface wrote:
Alright. Fuck round 1. I made some really dumb desicions. Like trading KT away for Cj this last week of round 1.Think I lost 13 points just doing that


It wasn't a dumb decision. It was a perfectly smart and calculated decision, but Proleague decided to be weird. -_-

And yes, I've done that too.


I agree. I thought about well and long and thought it was a smart decision.

But it was only a matter of time before Khan would get a win and I dont even know what happend vs Team 8.
Honestly I think I calculate way much over who is likely to lose and so on.

Need to go more with gut feeling and chance in the future.
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 09:52:33
January 01 2013 09:03 GMT
#1752
On January 01 2013 17:44 ChaosSmurf wrote:
I traded JYP for Hydra in week 2, undisputed shit-trade champion in here.


I got Trap for anti AFTER his first two matches. Now he is -12.
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
January 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#1753
On December 31 2012 23:05 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 22:54 Pyloss wrote:
Rain just gave me 8 points in just one CL. So good. :D


I'm hoping for 12p but I'm not sure if I got it right

Lineup Appearance: +1 Point
Game Win: +2 Points
6-Game Win Streak: +2 Points
Ace Appearance: +1 Point
Ace Win: +4
Break Another Player's Streak: +1 Point
Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point

*the 6-Game win streak is probably wrong, idunno


You were right!#

So this was a good week, i got 29 points, and only -3 from my anti team. Finaly i'm back in the top 2000, now 1568, good stand.
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 01 2013 10:32 GMT
#1754
I think my team did fairly well. Sure one never played, should have gotten Fantasy instead of soO (of course I picked the zerg) and Bbyung wasn't the best 4p-non-skt-balance-choice. But all in all pretty good.

I don't know what to expect of the next season but I feel pessimistic about the format for it.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
January 01 2013 12:37 GMT
#1755
+ Show Spoiler [Previous posts] +
+ Show Spoiler [Initial Team] +
Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars - 3p

I didn't want to go anywhere near Rain's family, nor did I think that EG-TL would crush face like TL writers expect them to. So among the rest, I had to choose between Woongjin, Samsung and STX. Even though Khan was a finalist last season, they have the team with the least impressive individual results so far and they cost 4 instead of 3 for the two other so it was eliminate there. Soul have the best individual players on paper ((T)Bogus and (T)Last) but the mastery Stars showed in the first round of the last PL made me fan. 2 of their players qualified for Code A, (T)sin doing it against zergs including someone named Vampire, aka Sniper's clone; while 3 of them also reach the finals ((P)free, (P)BisAnG, (Z)ZerO). Not to mention (P)sHy and (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey were in Code S. This team has tremendous potential with a whole bunch of youngsters.

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey - 8p

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong - 4p
  • (Z)ZerO - 4p
  • (P)Wooki - 3p
  • (P)JangBi - 5p
  • (T)hOn_sin - 3p

Among the players that were in Code S this season and who went down to Code A, (T)Bbyong is the cheapest (4p) and the fact that he will likely share ace matches with Effort which makes him a wise pick. Then I wanted another reliable player for a decent price a protoss would have been best but none were that impressive for 4p. (Z)ZerO and (Z)Shine both fill that spot but I couldn't decide yet.

After that I wished to pick 2 protosses because in Bo1, those are always a good thing to have so one under 3p among {(P)BisAnG,(P)free,(P)Wooki} and one over 5p among {(P)Trap (P)Stork,(P)Flying,(P)JangBi} was a good move for me. I believe BisAnG is the best player among the 1p players, his ability to reach Code B finals twice in a row (losing to win-hungry San in the last one) tells me that, however I don't think he is ranked that highly in his team and he shouldn't see that much playing time yet. As such I picked a combination that was likely to play often and which one of them will do well : [Wooki,JangBi].

Lastly I wanted a terran but they are either WAY too costly for what they are {(T)Bogus, (T)Last, (T)Flash, (T)BaBy} or their level is quite unknown like {(T)PuMa, (T)ThorZaIN, (T)hOn_sin, (T)Classic}. I was determined to pick of the last group and decided to go for (T)hOn_sin just because he his almost guaranteed to win his game against a totally unknown player who will be hard pressed to cheese on a map like Arkanoid.

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt - 6p
  • (T)sKyHigh - 4p
  • (Z)Zenio - 3p

I am not sure BeSt will have a bad season/day but in the bigger scheme of things, I have to avoid picking against teams that I think could win in the end and he weights quite a few points in a team where he will end up behind Rain all the freaking time anf if Bisu comes back well, he can almost kiss his spot good bye. (T)sKyHigh looks like an overrated player in a team that won more on BW than on SC2 last time and (Z)Zenio has been slumping for a while and with the recruitment of Jaedong, he will go after him in the line-up.


+ Show Spoiler [1st Week Wrap-up] +
Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars (-1p) Tough first week for WS with a 1-4 defeat. But with T8 as the only cheaper team, I have to trust myself on this one. To Keep

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey (0p) Lost his match against Bbyong but should do well in the future.

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong (4p) Won his match against Soulkey confirming his Code A results. Keeper
  • (Z)ZerO (0p) Dissapointing loss on a Terran favored map. Likely to be traded
  • (P)Wooki (4p) Satisfying win for a protoss that should see regular play. Keeper
  • (P)JangBi (0p) I was expecting more from him. On probation
  • (T)hOn_sin (1p) Didn't play but was on the line-up. Undecided

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt (4p) I was expecting him to be the contrary of JangBi, but that's not the case. Likely to be traded
  • (T)sKyHigh (4p) Apparently not as bad as foreseen. On probation
  • (Z)Zenio (0p) Seemed completely lost against Flash. Keeper


+ Show Spoiler [1st Week Trades & 2nd Week Preview] +
I decided not to trade anyone for this first week after seeing the match-ups :
  • Bbyong is likely going to stay on my line-up for a while. He can go 2-0 this week and 1-1 at worst.
  • ZerO was playing BeSt so I decided to trust him once more, and ends up locking both on the lineup. The risk of ZerO going 1-1 is high because he plays Flash in the second part of the week but BeSt plays him and BaBy and I expect BaBy to crush BeSt granting me a potentiel 0-2 for BeSt this week.
  • Wooki should win against Sang and free, continuing to make a strong impression on everyone.
  • Sin is too cheap to be traded right now, though I thought about trading him for Mind but they face each other on the second part of week one and decided not to risk the trade penalty for that.
  • JangBi has to perform against Dear because he won't against TaeJa. His stock is falling rapidly and I might have to trade him for a lesser protoss in a more successful team.
  • sKyHigh is only playing one match and I think Last has what it takes to crush him. Zenio is in a similar situation playing only RorO.


+ Show Spoiler [2nd Week Wrap-up] +
Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars (10p) Great week for WJS with a weel earned 4-3 win over SKT and a quick 4-0 over KT. It's too bad they lost against CJ on the first day because with that level of play I can see them winning all the remaining matches. Next week will be tough with a EG-TL team that is looking for points and an under-performing STX that is bound to bounce up eventually. Keeper

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey (14p) He isn't one of the few KeSPA Code S by accident. He won all of games including a Ace Match and is riding a 3-0 streak.

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong (5p) Lost against Jaedong but won against Trap. He may not be as powerful as I thought be he certainly delivers, plus he is on a team that keeps on winning. Keeper
  • (Z)ZerO (8p) HOLY SHIT BATMAN ! I was wondering why the WJS kept on playing him on Bifrost, well he single-handedly proved that Bifrost isn't a Terran favored map. He earned his spot until the end. Keeper
  • (P)Wooki (5p) A win once again for this up-and-coming protoss. The only bad point about him is that he plays on KT. Keeper
  • (P)JangBi (1p) My biggest disappointment so farn and it is doubled by the fact that Samsung Khan plays terribly as a whole. The trade possibilities aren't that huge but I need to make the most out of his spot before it's too late. Traded
  • (T)hOn_sin (8p) He may not be the cleanest player out there but he gets shits done. No wonder he is ahead of Light right now. Keeper

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt (4p) I wanted to trade him for Stephano last week but couldn't because he was too high (0.62p too much if I remember correctly) and now he continues to win when it matters. Traded
  • (T)sKyHigh (2p) Apparently not as bad as foreseen. Traded
  • (Z)Zenio (4p) Wasn't fielded against CJ but won against RorO, Traded


+ Show Spoiler [2nd Week Trades & 3rd Week Preview] +
Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars - Tricky match-ups for WJS this week as both of them are against teams that could well be better than what they look like. They continue to field the same line-up more or less which tends to indicate that they are confident in these players and rightly so.
  • EG-TL will field an all-korean line-up and the match-ups are favoring EG-TL by a small margin. The best players from WJS (Soulkey and sOs) are playing 2nd and 6th which is dangerous considering that 3rd,4th and 5th match have Jaedong, TaeJa and HerO playing in mirrors. There is no doubt that both TaeJa and HerO are vastly superior to Sin and Flying in this area. So free's performance against Zenio will be crucial for Woongjin, as this first game could well make the difference between a 4-2 for EG-TL or a 4-3 for WJS.
  • STX Soul is a team that should be in stronger that what its results would tend to indicate - They should have won against CJ Entus had Bogus learned to do a proxy 2-Rax. This week match-ups are also tricky with most matches happening on KeSPA's new maps. Soulkey, and ZerO should have no problem winning against Dear and Size respectively but sOs could be surprised by Last. So WJS has to win at least with either Flying, Sin or Light. Flying never won so far, Sin won twice and could well upset Bogus after winning against Fantasy and finally Light is playing for the first time taking free's place (who took fOKINS's place). Ryu Won took SlayerS to 2 consecutive GSTL titles with almost all terrans line-ups. Can he do the same here ?

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey - I believe JYP to be the second best team player on EG (after JD) but if Soulkey prepares for the incoming 4 Gate he should be fine. Dear shouldn't be that hard to beat either. The streak continues.

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong - Tough week for Bbyong who plays BeSt and Flash. I hope he beats BeSt at the very least.
  • (Z)ZerO - He could lose to JaeDong but should win against Size very easily. He only has one match-up to prepare.
  • (P)Wooki - He had rather weak opponents so far and we could see him continue to improve against Stork and sKyHigh.
  • (P)JangBi traded for (Z)SonGDuri - JangBi has been a huge let-down. His team continues to lose. A trade for JYP last week could have been very could useful but I have to settle here for a lesser player. SonGDuri wasn't highly rated at the beginning of the season but brought some useful points as CJ kept winning. He is the only player who plays twice this week (along with Crazy-Hydra) and I decided to trust him though I could second guess myself at the last moment.
  • (T)hOn_sin - Tough week again for Sin (plays TaeJa and Bogus) but I wouldn't get any better player right now.

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt - My personal bane. I thought he was bad but he entered SKT main players (along with Fantasy, soO and Rain) I could end up losing 8 points again but I don't see anyone worth trading for.
  • (T)sKyHigh traded for (Z)Stephano - This is a very conservative choice but seeing how I am performing poorly with my Anti right now, I am not sure Stork would be a better choice.
  • (Z)Zenio - He plays only once against free. As I said earlier, it's a crucial match-up for WJS and I have to trust my main team.


+ Show Spoiler [3rd Week Wrap-up] +
Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars (3p) This week was a bit underwhelming as they narrowly defeated EG-TL and were bested by STX Soul. I believe that WJS should have sent sHy instead of Soulkey against Soul. Next week should be fairly keen on them with Khan and Team 8 on the menu. Keeper

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey (6p) Losing an ace match in this fashion must be very upsetting. For me Soulkey is still by far the best KeSPA zerg out there and it's not even close.

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong (3p) He won against BeSt but lost against Flash, however because his team lost twice, he ends up with not that much point. Maybe traded
  • (Z)ZerO (4p) ZerO was supposed to be the king of ZvZ in BW but he failed against Jaedong. He won against Size though. Keeper
  • (P)Wooki (6p) Another week another 6 points. I wonder what KT feeds its team, these guys aren't any good in GSL but they certainly deliver in PL. Keeper
  • (Z)SonGDuri (3p) He followed the same scenario as Bbyong, had I kept JangBi, I would have had 2 more points. Likely traded
  • (T)hOn_sin (1p) Tough week for him as he faced 2 Code S opponents and ended up losing both games. Next week isn't that much better. Maybe traded

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt (2p) Finally lost both of his games. A bit too late to have any influence on my scores. SKT won twice. Maybe Traded
  • (Z)Stephano (1p) Didn't play, EG-TL only won once. Keeper
  • (Z)Zenio (4p) Lost again free, EG-TL only won once. Maybe Traded


+ Show Spoiler [3rd Week Trades & 4th Week Preview] +
Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars - The last and easiest week for WJS with Samsung Khan and Team 8. It is to be noted that CJ Entus also play the same opponents.
  • Team 8 is fielding their usual line-up which is playing not as badly as people would expect. The match-ups for this game are OK but not overly favorable to WJS. Among the 4 first players, sHy and ZerO will win, Soulkey should too. free (like every other WJS Protoss not named sHy) has been losing a lot but won last week against Zenio - a victory that proved to be capital. I am hoping he can repeat again otherwise we will see Sin and BaBy play. Sin has proven he can win against other good terrans but he is still very inconsistent. The last match-up is Light against Sang which should seal the deal for WJS should the former players not grant them a quick match.
  • Samsung Khan is a team that failed. There is no other description of what is happening. They have a strong top 5 (Stork, JangBi, Reality, RorO, Shine) on paper but they seem unable to gain any form of consistency. It is difficult to predict the match because all of their players bar hOpe are somewhat good but they fail one after another. sOs, Soulkey and ZerO are heavy favorites, while Sin and Light are still not completely proven but could end up winning anyway. Aria won't probably play.

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey - Soulkey was bested by Dear last week and showed weakness in ZvP, in a matchup where there is plenty of possibilities for zergs that is worrying but Soulkey has to prove he is a top player and go back to winning asap and finish the Round 1 with a 7-2 record.

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong - Even though I'm not sure he will win against Stork, he is fairly consistent in his TvZ and will win versus Ryul2. The only other reasonable trade was sKyHigh and I think Bbyong is better than him.
  • (Z)ZerO - Anything different from a 2-0 would be surprising as he plays Speed (on TDA) and RorO (on CK). Woongjin zerg power !
  • (P)Wooki - Sniping Protoss all round long. He plays Rain and Dear. I would have traded him for any protoss on Cj or WJS that was playing twice but sHy and herO are way too expensive.
  • (Z)SonGDuri traded for (T)Light- Had I traded JangBi for Action last week, I could have gain 5 points. Now I am stuck with SonGDuri. He isn't a bad player by any mean but he isn't as flashy as Action or Wooki. Though he is in CJ, I prefer going with Light as I cannot undermine the fact that the latter was 5-1 in SC2 in the hybrid PL.
  • (T)hOn_sin - It's another tricky week for Sin but the glimpse of greatness we saw in Week 2 could well repeat this week. BaBy isn't a slouch by any means and Reality already beat BaBy in week one. I was hesitant to trade him for Crazy-Hydra as the KT zerg plays JyJ and hyvaa but since I went for Reality in my Anti, I have to be consistent with my decisions.

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt - FINALLY OUT ! Thank god I didn't traded him last week or I would have lost way more points.
  • (Z)Stephano - Still in France. He isn't playing and EG-TL has a tough week.
  • (Z)Zenio traded for (T)Reality - He only plays once but again a zerg that isn't very good. I can see him winning so I traded him. Among my choices were 3 terrans {Classic, Reality and Speed} Classic play ThorZaIN and even though I believe in our swedish friend, I can't bet on that. Speed plays ZerO (and will lose) but he also plays the terrible Hydra and could end up winning. Reality plays Sin and herO and there is no way he will beat herO. I went for Reality in the end banking on my Sin boy.


Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars (14p) After a tough 3rd week, Stars started the year beautifully by crushing both Khan and Team 8. I thought that WJS would win 4-0 twice but ZerO dropped the ball. Every other player delivered.

Captain : (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey (6p) Calm week for Soulkey as he only played once and won against Jaehoon.

Players :
  • (T)Bbyong (0p) Bbyong is a token of CJ downfall. Let's go over a loss to Stork, a middle class player, and focus on the loss against Ryul2. This kind of loss is unacceptable for a player of his caliber.
  • (Z)ZerO (5p) 1-1 once again for ZerO. For someone who is being sent out often, he is quite shaky. I
  • (P)Wooki (6p) Another week another 6 points. *nuff said*
  • (T)LighT (6p) He didn't play in the first match but won convincingly in the second winning against Stork.
  • (T)hOn_sin (8p) I ended up keeping him on the roster and I did well. He bested BaBy and Reality and gives me the most points he could have this week.

Anti - team :
  • (P)BeSt (1p) Didn't play, SKT only won once.
  • (Z)Stephano (1p) Didn't play, EG-TL only won once.
  • (T)Reality (1p) Lost both his games but Khan somehow won against CJ.


Coming up next : Round 1 Review.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
January 01 2013 12:58 GMT
#1756
are the scores of the last 2 matches calculated in? If so, i guess i didnt do too bad, almost hit the top 1000 and i got the best anti-team (with trades), so i won something right
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
January 01 2013 13:30 GMT
#1757
Just too funny.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 14:06:42
January 01 2013 14:04 GMT
#1758
On January 01 2013 21:58 Koerage wrote:
are the scores of the last 2 matches calculated in? If so, i guess i didnt do too bad, almost hit the top 1000 and i got the best anti-team (with trades), so i won something right

No they aren't.

Fuck yeah, Stars, the 4-0 should propel me further than I ever was. Top 30 here I come.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 01 2013 14:05 GMT
#1759
So do we have to completely repick the roster for round 2?
And is it completely new round or do the points from the previous rounds add up?
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 01 2013 14:17 GMT
#1760
Review of Round 1:
The Good:
(T)Flash: Will pick Flash through and through, did not disappoint as always. Although his TvT is a big concern (seems to be substantially weaker than his rest of his match ups; still a top 5 FPL points getter.

(T)Fantasy: Team's secondary Ace; on a stacked SKT team; one of the best players in PL, another top 5; and one of the highest bang for the buck players in the FPL

(Z)Crazy-Hydra: Good value for being 3rd man on the team; as expected he did reasonably well when he was sent out, raised his stock for the following trade with Jangbi in week 4 which broke even.

The meh:
(Z)Ryul2: Thought he'd do a lot better; extremely slow start got better near the end especially capping it off behind CJ's ace: herO


The bad:
(T)PuMa/(T)Mind: I thought he'd do well..but Puma never failed to disappoint in FPL; has been one of the biggest busts.
(P)Terminator: After his epic Bill Costi entrance; his ID; his original prowess in the hybrid PL and his run in GSL; I thought he would do a lot better...he was going to be sent out regardless but my god his results were horrifying.

The terrible:
STX Soul: Misclicked for KT Rolster; cost me big time. The Core of Bogus/Last/hyvaa has been VERY underwhelming.
Anti-Team (P)Jaehoon : I can't recall the last time he did this well..wtf happened??
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