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Fantasy Proleague '12-13 Round 1 - Page 69

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E.H Eager
Profile Joined August 2011
United States227 Posts
December 20 2012 17:17 GMT
#1361
I've got Best and Fantasy killing me on my anti. Any suggestions on trades? None of the options look good but they are screwing me over.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 17:25:56
December 20 2012 17:25 GMT
#1362
Right, I've got a few issues here (and after week 1 looked so promising!). Any input is appreciated.

Things I've got that I'm in no hurry to change:

(c) - Roro - Just as well since I can't change him! Sure there may be better choices and he's disappointed a bit but outside of SPL he's also managed to get back into Code S so he's clearly on form and both his games this week are winnable.
Wooki - Solid results and playing in both of the upcoming matches against beatable opponents.
ANTI - MyuNgSiK - Dude doesn't do anything.

Things I'm a bit disconcerted about:

Hydra - Harder than average match ups this week for him but I'm happy to stick with him.
Reality - Crazy-Hydra THEN Rain... hmm, I'm thinking 1W, 1L for him this week at best.
Speed - Swapped him in last week for PuMa as PuMa wasn't playing and completely regret this decision now, if anything I wish I hadn't traded, do not expect much from him this week. A win vs Trap at best.
ANTI - Jaedong - I thought he was overpriced, I thought he was overhyped, after week 1 I was happy as you like, after week 2... oh god.
TEAM - Samsung KHAN - I thought they'd be doing better than they are now, sure they got unlucky with TWO 4-3 losses and being 4-0'd was, a little surprising... But fact is they're now the worst ranked team and have played the next 3 worst ranked teams already. It's only going to get tougher for them on paper, only reason I'll stick with is the only trade option is T8 and they're no better.

Things that need changing, stat:

Deer - Only lined up to play one game this week, as the 6th game of a series, and it's vs Soulkey.
ANTI - JYP - Thought he was overhyped + over priced, thought if any player was given time to prepare vs him he'd lose, I knew he was beyond awful vs Terran and like with Jaedong, after week 1 I was perfectly happy. However after his destruction of Z and P opponents it shows he's still got it in him. Playing twice this week, 1 Z (Soulkey), 1 P (Sang) so I'd say he has AT LEAST 1 win in the bag, wouldn't be surprised if he gets both.

So, my thoughts:

TRADES

ANTI - JYP for Stephano. Purely as he's not going to play, he might do me massive damage in the final week but until then it's damage limitation as I think JYP has got it in him to take another 7/8 points off me this week.

Deer for PuMa - Deer has 1 game this week, and it's HAAARRD. PuMa has got 2 this week, and they're both a coin toss on which way they can go. For what it's worth I'm also a massive fan of PuMa so it'll be pretty tough to talk me out of this one!

There are others I'm considering...

Samsung for T8, Speed for Ryul2 but I'm not sure if either are going to be able to actually win me more points than just leaving them as their originials.

Any input is appreciated before I hit the trade button!

PS: After Round 1 does everyone get a do over or do you have to stick with your team?
@followMVT
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
December 20 2012 17:50 GMT
#1363
On December 21 2012 01:35 HereBeDragons wrote:
I should've traded Jaehoon for Stephano last week, now I'm stuck with him on my anti team. Not a lot of good options

this weak its not that bad, Jaehoon has very good opponents (Bogus and Taeja) so it shouldnt be another -8 for us


and some crazy insider tip from my side: if your trade teams, trade so that you can buy Woongjin for the last week. They play T8 and Samsung Kha, imo the worst two teams
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monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
December 20 2012 18:13 GMT
#1364
should i trade both dear and crazy hydra? dear for puma could be a good trade this week.
I like Dear but he only plays once ...6th place vs Soulkey

I am tempted.
@ggmonx
andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
December 20 2012 18:21 GMT
#1365
[image loading]

Okay, after much deliberation, I've decided to put all my hope on Hydra and pray that he smashes soO with 30 slow zerglings. If soO goes 0-2 (or 0-1 because his 2nd game is in the 6th slot) and CJ Entus goes 2-0, I'll most likely be in first place and be in a great position to win FPL. If not, well... see you next round! :p

The only thing that's debatable beyond that is trading yeOngJae for hitman, because hitman is KT's Bifrost sniper. I'll decide in a bit whether to pull the trigger or not.
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
December 20 2012 18:29 GMT
#1366
On December 21 2012 03:21 andrea20 wrote:
[image loading]

Okay, after much deliberation, I've decided to put all my hope on Hydra and pray that he smashes soO with 30 slow zerglings. If soO goes 0-2 (or 0-1 because his 2nd game is in the 6th slot) and CJ Entus goes 2-0, I'll most likely be in first place and be in a great position to win FPL. If not, well... see you next round! :p

The only thing that's debatable beyond that is trading yeOngJae for hitman, because hitman is KT's Bifrost sniper. I'll decide in a bit whether to pull the trigger or not.


Man, why didn't you trade soo for stephano on anti instead of terminator for stephano? You'd be in prime position to win the league!
andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 18:46:58
December 20 2012 18:31 GMT
#1367
soO was valued at 36.19 at the end of week 1. Stephano was valued at... 36.00 -.-

That's why I had to trade up from Terminator to Stephano, I couldn't trade soO for jack.

On December 21 2012 02:25 MVTaylor wrote:
PS: After Round 1 does everyone get a do over or do you have to stick with your team?

Yes, TL decided that instead of having a six-month FPL like in previous years, it'll be reset after every round. So you get six chances to play xD
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 20 2012 18:49 GMT
#1368
On December 21 2012 01:11 Proseat wrote:
I don't think I will make much headway with my team anymore this round. When I picked the team in the beginning, I was overestimating player losses in terms of losing points and thus made too conservative choices. With the players that I have at the moment losing more and more trade value (thanks Mind and Sea), picking better alternatives has become really hard.

I was wondering what people would trade in my place if they had the team I have at the moment?
http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Team.php?team=Proseat&r=12

I was thinking of not making any adjustments to my anti team. On the main team, however, I am somewhat at a loss who to get for Sea (retired) and disappointing Mind (two losses last week, not fielded in the next matchups). I also seriously doubt Bisu will win his one match against RoRo. Equally, HoeJJa lost last week and is not fielded. I looked into trading away Sea (for (Z)check or (T)Kop?) and Mind (for (Z)hitmaN[jOin]?) or possibly (P)Bisu (for (Z)Crazy-Hydra?), but if I traded the former two I would also have to get another Terran again and there are only two trades possible.

What do you guys think?

I'm equally sad and glad you're all as much at a loss here as I am.
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iS.Axslav
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States248 Posts
December 20 2012 19:08 GMT
#1369
On December 21 2012 02:17 E.H Eager wrote:
I've got Best and Fantasy killing me on my anti. Any suggestions on trades? None of the options look good but they are screwing me over.


I've got Best too I can feel your pain can't figure out who to trade him for though might just hang on to him hoping he'll lose a few for me (also just traded away SKt1 as a team so now i can double cheer for him to lose!)
E.H Eager
Profile Joined August 2011
United States227 Posts
December 20 2012 19:16 GMT
#1370
On December 21 2012 04:08 iS.Axslav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 02:17 E.H Eager wrote:
I've got Best and Fantasy killing me on my anti. Any suggestions on trades? None of the options look good but they are screwing me over.


I've got Best too I can feel your pain can't figure out who to trade him for though might just hang on to him hoping he'll lose a few for me (also just traded away SKt1 as a team so now i can double cheer for him to lose!)


Yeah, I ended up spending my anti trade on getting Leta for Puma. Which is a much safer trade then picking up anyone I could have traded Best/Fantasy for.
AKRW
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
80 Posts
December 20 2012 20:09 GMT
#1371
The week of no trading for me. Would add an interesting dynamic if we could sacrifice weaker players and buy a stronger (and the other way around) for the accumulated points. Like you give up a 10 , 8 and 3 worth and you can choose a 21. Or give up a 30 worth and choose 3 x 10. Would make it a bit more complex.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 20 2012 20:30 GMT
#1372
If you had (T)Sea, (T)Mind, (Z)HoeJJa, (P)Bisu, and (P)JangBi on your team, how would you trade?
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Kraidio
Profile Joined May 2011
China133 Posts
December 20 2012 21:55 GMT
#1373
I had to get rid of hero[Join] from my anti-team, but the only person I could trade for was Rain.

Fantastic.
A man does what he must — in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers, and pressures — and that is the basis of all human morality.
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
December 20 2012 22:00 GMT
#1374
I cannot wait for the next round. When do signups open again?
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
December 20 2012 22:19 GMT
#1375
On December 21 2012 05:30 Proseat wrote:
If you had (T)Sea, (T)Mind, (Z)HoeJJa, (P)Bisu, and (P)JangBi on your team, how would you trade?

Change my IP, make a new name, wait for Round 2, and pray that no one figures out that I once had that lineup.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 20 2012 22:49 GMT
#1376
Man, I don't know if it's worth trading yeongjae for anyone this week despite the fact he has 0 appearances.

And Dear only has 1 appearance vs Soulkey, so I was hoping to trade him, but almost everyone below is much of a muchness.....idk =S
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#1377
On December 21 2012 05:30 Proseat wrote:
If you had (T)Sea, (T)Mind, (Z)HoeJJa, (P)Bisu, and (P)JangBi on your team, how would you trade?

Very quickly,
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
December 20 2012 22:57 GMT
#1378
On December 21 2012 05:30 Proseat wrote:
If you had (T)Sea, (T)Mind, (Z)HoeJJa, (P)Bisu, and (P)JangBi on your team, how would you trade?

That lineup is even a lot worse than mine, and I trail behind. Not much you can do, I'm afraid. None of these will bring you many (or even any) points
Get off my lawn, young punks
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
December 20 2012 22:59 GMT
#1379
On December 21 2012 07:49 bittman wrote:
Man, I don't know if it's worth trading yeongjae for anyone this week despite the fact he has 0 appearances.

And Dear only has 1 appearance vs Soulkey, so I was hoping to trade him, but almost everyone below is much of a muchness.....idk =S

Yeah, I briefly considered trading him for s2, but s2 is likely to lose, so I decided to just stick with yeongjae. At least it's pretty likely he is going to give you 2 points from SKT's likely victories.
I still don't know what to do with Hoejja, nothing really comes to mind.
Get off my lawn, young punks
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 20 2012 23:04 GMT
#1380
On December 21 2012 07:59 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 07:49 bittman wrote:
Man, I don't know if it's worth trading yeongjae for anyone this week despite the fact he has 0 appearances.

And Dear only has 1 appearance vs Soulkey, so I was hoping to trade him, but almost everyone below is much of a muchness.....idk =S

Yeah, I briefly considered trading him for s2, but s2 is likely to lose, so I decided to just stick with yeongjae. At least it's pretty likely he is going to give you 2 points from SKT's likely victories.
I still don't know what to do with Hoejja, nothing really comes to mind.


I also have s2 though =P

As for Hoejja...yeah you're screwed. Not wasting a point on the trade tax is about as good as it gets for Hoejja haha.
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