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Fantasy Proleague '12-13 Round 1 - Page 70

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ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
December 20 2012 23:16 GMT
#1381
So what do I fucking do with Sea? Fanta,zero,crazy h and stats are my only hope so far.
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
December 20 2012 23:33 GMT
#1382
I got dear, fantasy, puma, ryul2, soulkey (captain), thorzain, skt t1 and on my anti team: light, mini, stephano.

Is this good or should i do something?
Evil Geniuses<3
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
December 20 2012 23:40 GMT
#1383
Looking at trading options -

Team : [image loading]Woongjin Stars (9p)

Captain : (T)Fantasy (8p)

Players :
  • (P)Wooki (5p)
  • (Z)ZerO (8p)
  • (T)yeOngJae (4p)
  • (Z)Crazy-Hydra (4p)
  • (T)TaeJa (4p)

Anti - team :
  • (Z)Stephano (1p)
  • (P)Motive (2p)
  • (Z)Zenio (4p)


yeOngJae isn't in the lineup at all this week but honestly not really anyone worth trading for under him.

Crazy-Hydra has both Reality and EffOrt this week, and without having seen him play yet I'm worried here. Might bite the bullet and look at a trade here.

ZerO has Jaedong and Size, at worst I think he'll go 1-1 there. Wooki has Skyhigh and Stork, I think he can 2-0 that, he's looked like a PvP sniper and I'm not particularly impressed with Skyhigh. Finally TaeJa has hOn_sin and Jaehoon, both have performed well thus far but I think those are winnable matches.

Motive actually got a line up appearance O_O and Zenio is up against free. might trade one of them here.

Any thoughts on trades?
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 21 2012 00:08 GMT
#1384
I'm just giving up on my team and just gonna let them ride it out from here.

sKyHigh got matched vs Wooki and FantaSy. They're all on my FPL team.

Sigh
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andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
December 21 2012 01:27 GMT
#1385
Okay I decided to trade yeOngJae for Hitman. Trade tax removes the lineup appearance point, but I can get 3 points and raise trade value if Hitman snipes RorO and KT wins.

You can do it, Hitman!
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 21 2012 01:35 GMT
#1386
Traded Mind for Hitman. Considered Fantasy for Taeja, but I'm not so sure yet. I will wait and see how things play out. Plus, I have two EG/TL players on my anti-team, so it'd be kinda illogical.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 21 2012 01:36 GMT
#1387
all LRs have been premade here!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339146&currentpage=12
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Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 11:15:31
December 21 2012 11:10 GMT
#1388
On December 21 2012 10:27 andrea20 wrote:
Okay I decided to trade yeOngJae for Hitman. Trade tax removes the lineup appearance point, but I can get 3 points and raise trade value if Hitman snipes RorO and KT wins.

You can do it, Hitman!

same here

and i traded JYP for Wookie. Wookie should win at least vs Stork and win me an extra point for a 3win streak. JYP on the other hand has to win a PvZ on TalDarim to get the 3win point.

would be funny if it works out for me, cause i just bought JYP for Week2^^
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 21 2012 11:19 GMT
#1389
Why do I and everybody else have SoO in their antiteam. So funny.
I had a good night of sleep.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
December 21 2012 12:34 GMT
#1390
only like 140 people have him on their anti, nothing compared to the >1k of Bisu
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 13:47:11
December 21 2012 13:46 GMT
#1391
+ Show Spoiler [My team for reference] +
The Dragons Reborn

Main Team
4 (T)Bbyong
3 (Z)Crazy-Hydra
6 (T)Fantasy (captain)
6 (P)Wooki
6 (Z)hyvaa
2 (T)Mind
3 [image loading]Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
4 (P)Bisu
5 (Z)Stephano
4 (P)Mini

+ Show Spoiler [Before Week 2] +
On December 14 2012 02:45 Ammanas wrote:
For me the FPL didnt start very well (somebody could even say quite bad), but I attribute that to being FPL novice. Only ones that scored for my team were Bbyong and Fantasy with Mind and Crazy-Hydra scoring also, because they didnt actually get to play. Flying and hyvaa disappointed a little bit. From the anti-team, Jaehoon has made me lose 4 points, which I didnt like at all. On the other hand, Mini didnt play at all and Bisu lost, so at least something. Getting Woongjin Stars as my team, I kinda question now. Of course, we cannot deduce anything from one match, but STX Soul has impressed me more first week and they cost same amount of points.


Trades I have made:

None on main team, was thinking about getting rid of Flying, but he is the only protoss on my team, so I would have to either trade him for another protoss or do 2 trades, which is currently not too appealing to me.

On anti-team though, I have traded Jaehoon for Stephano. He won't be playing this week for sure, and also probably won't be playing the next week since HSC ends on 22.12 which is next Saturday. If he goes to Korea straight after HSC, he may be playing in match on 25.12. - jetlagged, not prepared etc. Not to mention, that Jaehoon actually has pretty good chance to win his first match (and he will probably lose the second to Rain). Trade worth it, imo.


Expected performance (maybe the better name for this section would be "Things I hope for"):

Fantasy should be leading the charge for me as my captain, I really expect him to win both his matches. Neither hOn_sin nor Ryul2 should be too much of a problem for him.

Bbyong plays against JD and Trap next week. I fully expect JD to lose, mainly after what he showed against Hack. Versus Trap it should be 50/50 and I hope he can beat him too. Wont be too surprised if he loses though.

Crazy-Hydra plays only one match and thats against Flying, whom I also have on my team, so if it comes to that match, I will get points from it whatever happens.

Mind plays Jaehoon and hOn_sin, both on Arkanoid (he was also scheduled to play on Arkanoid in the EG-TL match), so he seems like a sniper for this map. Hopefully he has some good builds prepared.

Flying plays soO and C-H. Against soO its gonna be very hard. I actually dont expect him to win. Will see though, maybe he has some ace up his sleeve. He only trains PvZ for this week, so if he doesnt do 10 min mothership, he may stand a chance. Agains C-H it doesnt really matter, I have some points from that match either way.

And finally, hyvaa plays against hOpe and Effort. He only has to train ZvZ which is good. I think he should beat hOpe and stand a fair chance against Effort, so this is his chance to redeem himself after losing last week.

And now to some predictions!

+ Show Spoiler [Saturday] +
KT vs T8
Baby and Flash should take their games. I would give a slight edge to Mind on Arkanoid because of the map. Wooki and Terminator should be 50/50, I would give a slight edge to Wooki (just cause Terminator is bad and nobody can convince me otherwise even if he wins GSL in the near future). The other T8 players are unknown to me and they definitely can surprise, but I think Action and Stats are solid enough to warranty KT victory 4:1 or 4:2.

WJS vs SKT
sHy and Soulkey should win their matches, Fantasy and Rain should win theirs. This will all come to Flyings and ZerO matches. At least one of them will have to win to get it to ace. Both will have it very tough and I am not sure if they can do it. Will definitely root for them though. Its either gonna be 4:2 SKT or 4:3 SKT with Rain winning vs Soulkey in ace.


+ Show Spoiler [Sunday] +
STX vs KHAN
4:2 STX with hyvaa, Dear, Bogus and Trap winning. It will be up to Reality to prove me wrong, win his match against Bogus, get it to ace, where Bogus will kill (Z)BBatta or some other awesome pick.. But seriously, STX will not lose here be it in ace or before that.

CJ vs EGTL
Bbyong, Taeja, herO[jOin], HerO will win their matches. SonGDuri vs Thorzain, I really dont know. Everything seems to b favouring Thorzain, but... he is foreigner. And EffOrt vs JYP is battle of i-dont-know-how-to-beat-toss vs I-dont-know-if-I-slump-or-I-have-always-been-so-bad. It will come up to if CJ can win both - SonGDuri vs Thorzain and EffOrt vs JYP. If they can, they win 4:2. If they cant, EG wins 4:2 or 4:3 in ace.


+ Show Spoiler [Monday] +
KT vs WJS
Soulkey, Flash, sHy, Mind, Wooki, Flying win their matches, imo. Then it is up to ace and the question is if they can snipe Flash. imo they cant. KT 4:3

T8 vs SKT
I wanted to say this is gonna be onesided, but.. First game I dont really know either player, so I dont know who can win. Baby should have an edge over Best, but he certainly can take it also. Fantasy wins afterwards. 4th game is once again like cointoss for me, dont know. Rain and soO win. SKT is gonna take it, question is only how much they win. if everything goes right for T8 (Baby wins, both unknown games are won by T8 players) then SKT wins 4:3. If not, SKT wins 4:2 or 4:1. Either way, SKT wins.


+ Show Spoiler [Tuesday] +
STX vs CJ
Last, Bogus, Bbyong, herO[jOin], Dear are gonna take their matches. Then it comes down to hyvaa vs EffOrt. if hyvaa wins, STX wins 4:2. If EffOrt wins, STX wins 4:3 in ace (Bogus takes down herO[jOin], my wil guess).

KHAN vs EGTL
EGTL 4:2 with HerO, Taeja, Puma, JD winning their games.

+ Show Spoiler [After week 2] +
On December 20 2012 00:54 Ammanas wrote:
Some of my thoughts if anyone's interested!
Currently ranked at 726 which is much better then about 2.5k place I was in after first week. I am kinda OK with this, but I was (and still am) aiming for more. Not bad for first time FPL though ^^

Captain (T)Fantasy performed well, but lost one match which I didn't expect. It was a loss in a weird game which included double proxy reaper and CCs flying to opponent's main to start mining again. As I said, it was weird game and nobody can blame Fantasy for losing. Against Ryul2 he won, as expected. I still think it was a good decision to make Fantasy my captain and I wouldn't trade him even if I could.

(T)Bbyong brought home 5 points, which was kinda expected. He won the match I expected him to lose and lost the one I expected him to win, but 5 points are still great. And he only cost 4 points before SPL started! It was a bargain deal and he is definitely a keeper.

(Z)Crazy-Hydra didn't play at all this week, but he still brought 2 points. He actually didn't get to play at all yet. To be honest, him being tied for third best contributor to my team overall with his stellar record of 0-0 probably says something about my team. Will see the matchups, but I still have faith in this particular KT zerg, so I will most probably keep him.

(Z)hyvaa is kinda strange imo. He won once and lost once. I kinda expected that. But he lost to hOpe (which he shouldn't have) and won against EffOrt (which is strange). I really am not sure what to do with him. His 1-2 record is not stellar, but he has potential for more. In first week, he lost to Best on Bifrost, which is understandable (but why did he go with that weird 2nd hatch in place where third is supposed to be on Bifrost of all maps?). Then he lost to hOpe in game I expected him to win (didn't see this match). And then he won against EffOrt which was also unexpected (will watch the game today after work). Will have to see the matchups, but I will think about trading him away. Not a priority trade though. (+ I am bashing my head against the wall, cause I was resubmitting this team several times and only difference was always soO or hyvaa. I should have gone with soO). He is on standby.

(P)Flying is another player I am not sure about. He failed in first week, then he played against soO and lost. I expected him to lose, sure, but the way he lost was just stupid. He had like 3 minute window where he could have killed soO and instead he was just going between the bases not doing any damage. When he finally committed, it was too late and soO crushed him. He didn't get to play against C-H. I will have to see matchups, if he goes against lesser terran or protoss, I may keep him. If he goes against Zerg I may have to trade him. It depends on more things though, since he is only protoss in my team, I will have to trade him for either Wooki or Dear, so it also depends on their matchups. For now he is on standby.

(T)Mind is just bad. I though that since KT is playing him all three games same map, he has what it takes to win at least once. But he was completely lost against both his opponents, that I will have to trade him probably. Depends who can he be traded for, but if I find someone in lineup he will go away. Trade pending.

[image loading] Woongjin Stars
Well, what can I say. After not so convincing start, they managed to 4:0 KT and 4:3 SKT which netted me nice 10 points this week and 9 points overall. Keeping them.

On anti-team I will probably keep them all, although if Bisu plays and Light doesn't I may trade them. Same goes for Mini -> Light. Have to see the lineups.


Lineups are up, let's see matchups and trading (it doesnt look good. at all.):

Main team:

Captain (T)Fantasy is okay. Two appearances, two matchups he should win. This time, I expect 2:0 from him. He shall carry! As I said in the last post, not trading even if I could.

(T)Bbyong on the other hand got one of the worst possible draws imaginable. Best and Flash. Good thing is, he is actually very good player, so there's quite a high chance of him going 1:1 (and with a lot of luck even 2:0). Bad thing is, he can easily go 0:2. Not trading.

(Z)Crazy-Hydra got two appearances this week, which is good! One ZvT vs Reality and one ZvZ against EffOrt. Nobody has seen him play yet, so who knows how good (or bad) he is. I would like him to go 1:1. I feel like he has more chance against EffOrt (ZvZ on Tal'Darim - that's basically coinflip). Reality is very good, so I don't really think he will beat him.. But who knows, maybe he actually will! Not trading.

(Z)hyvaa got great matchups, so I hope that he will finally hold to his potential and go 2:0 this week. Keeping him for sure, just please don't lose hyvaa.

(P)Flying got tough matches. He is playing 2 PvPs - Trap and Liquid'HerO. I said, that I will keep him if he gets matched to lesser terran or toss. He got HerO, who is certainly better and he got Trap, who is at least 50-50. He will go away and he will be traded for (P)Wooki. Wooki is on 2 wins streak, seems good in PvP and got Stork as next opponent. After Stork he got sKyHigh. He has potential to go 2:0 again so I hope this trade will do good for me.

And finally (T)Mind. He is not playing any match, and even if he would - he is just bad. Problem is, there is basically no one to trade him for. yeOngJae is not playing and all the others (even if they are playing) are gonna lose. At this point, I think I will not trade him at all and just expect KT wins (which they probably will against Samsung and it will be very close against CJ) -.- It is simply not worth the trade penalty imo. Unfortunately, I have to say I keep him (unless some of you can give me some brilliant idea on who to trade him for).

[image loading] Woongjin Stars
It's actually hard to decide whether to keep them or not. They have two very hard matchups in EGTL and STX. Against EGTL, I cannot see them win unless it is in ace match. I don't see Flying winning over HerO or hOn_sin against Taeja, so that leaves us with 3 out of sHy, Soulkey, free and ZerO have to win. And all of them are gonna have it tough, matchups are not favourable against them. I can see them losing. And against STX? I actually think it may end 4:0. Imo, all 4 STX players are going into the maches as favourites. If I could guarantee, that next week I will be able to trade STX back for WJS, I would have traded. But as it is now, I will probably keep them, cause next week they are going against T8 and Khan, which should result in a lot of points.

Anti-team:

(P)Bisu is playing against RorO (+he plays HotS showmatch tomorrow, so he probably practiced some HotS also) and I am confident with his ability to lose.

(P)Mini plays vs Alone and I actually think he may win this. I would like to check some trades, but there is not a lot of worthy trades tbh. Classic plays against Terminator and Terminator is awful. Zenio plays against unproven free. SongDuri and JangBi both play two matches. Light plays hyvaa and we don't know how good he actually is (hyvaa is pretty good though, so he should lose anyway). I think I should trade for JangBi, but my heart actually cannot do it. Will see, either I will keep Mini or trade him for Light, anyone got any tips? ^^

And (Z)Stephano doesn't play, so yay!

Trades:

(P)Flying out, (P)Wooki in!

If anyone got any tips who to trade (T)Mind for, or if I should risk it and trade WJS -> STX, or any feedback to my lineup, bring it!
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
December 21 2012 14:17 GMT
#1392
I wouldnt trade WJS, yes they have a hard week3, but as you said, look at their opponents in week4. I'm sure u want them in week4^^

One possible trade for Mind is Hitman, he seems to be a sniper for Bifrost, last time he won a ZvT vs BaBy with a crazy strat (5 mutas into roachdrops into fast broods on 3 bases) quite convincingly and he has anohter ZvT on Bifrost this week. I myself got Hitman for yeOngJae
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
December 21 2012 14:44 GMT
#1393
Bleh, it hurts my heart to trade Thorzain away, but he hasn't been performing and I don't expect him to beat Baby. Traded him for hitman. Hopefully I can get lucky and hitman will win his game.
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 21 2012 14:50 GMT
#1394
Guys, gimme some trade advice please! Is there a decent trade I can get for Reality on my anti team? I'm not so sure, but there have to be players I can get who hurt me less than he did so far.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
December 21 2012 15:07 GMT
#1395
Obviously Stephano, but you already got him.
Maybe Jaehoon for this week, seeing he plays Bogus and Taeja?
Last plays Baby and sHy, so maybe him?

If I had to pick some, I would take Jaehoon this week... But Reality plays Rain in one of the matches, so maybe you can keep him.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 15:21:01
December 21 2012 15:19 GMT
#1396
hehehehe, first time taking part in fantasy proleague and i am SO bad at this rofl, i made the biggest mistake of all time in putting roro and songduri on my anti just becuz they were zerg and i expected the patch to affect them more than it shouldve

luckily i have a very VERY good player (BBYONG BROS)that has earned me 9 points, half of my total score including antis lol, and SKT1 was an insanely good pick for a team man, 11 points haha
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
December 21 2012 17:24 GMT
#1397
I am rank 2 atm, but I really messed up not trading Trap for Stephano last week in my anti. I could have really been a contender if I made this trade .
Now I am even trading Zenio for Stephano.

Other than that hero[join] gave me amazing points, but I don't think he is the 2nd best proleague player, especially PvP looked like his worst matchup. Will trade him for Soulkey who has better matchup and also should be the ace almost always.
Because I need one protoss on the team, I will trade Crazy-Hydra (who only was on because of his match vs Huk which didnt happen). Terminator is underrated for his points I think. He qualified for GSL season 4 and won his first 3 matches there 2:0 (one against Polt).
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
December 21 2012 17:26 GMT
#1398
I have CJ herO in my anti team. The only trade option is Rain. Worth trying?
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
December 21 2012 17:28 GMT
#1399
Would like some help or others opinion.
Going to trade SoO for either Hero or Taeja. (got Fantasy and Best but they look so much worse)
SoO got two vZ this week, he looked pretty terrible against Effort so don't want to chance when I can trade for some GREAT players.

Taeja got the "harder" opponents, Sin and Jaehoon.
Both are 2-0 and have showed some good stuff against Terran, Sin especially taking out both Fantasy and Mind.

Hero on the other hand got the weaker ones, Flying and Check.
The vP shouldn't be a problem since Hero is so much more experienced and diffidently not the vZ against Check.
But in the 1st game he's out 5th and I expect him to play since WJS lineup look good.
The second game however I doubt he will get the play, coming out 7th and against T8.

So take a "risk" with Taeja and go for a 8p or play "safe" with Hero and only 5p =/
The curse is real
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 19:41:43
December 21 2012 19:28 GMT
#1400
On December 22 2012 02:26 Ljas wrote:
I have CJ herO in my anti team. The only trade option is Rain. Worth trying?

It's worth trying since Rain face harder opponents. But it's a huge gamble.

@Tobbish : soO plays Hydra and JuNi. Hydra already won a ZvZ against hyvaa while JuNi is unknown (and possibly bad)
TaeJa plays Sin and Jaehoon and both of them are performing better than expected while TaeJa had a considerable slow-down lately. He won against Bong but Bong is probably just plain bad.
HerO plays check whom he should beat easily and Flying who didn't win a game yet. However Flying qualified for Code A and could surprise HerO on Ohana (because it's PvP)

I don't think you should trade at all but if you do, you should choose HerO on the assumption that he is still on a roll.
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