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Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 21:06:11
December 06 2012 21:05 GMT
#161
On December 07 2012 06:02 Anomi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 06:00 munchmunch wrote:
On December 07 2012 05:51 Andrew2658 wrote:
As long as it is not cast from replays, so we can see the atmosphere of the event. I'll be extremely happy to watch.
Not just casted live, but casted in-studio. It makes such a huge difference, and I really don't see how MLG can provide.


the dispute seem to be that OGN want a PPV English stream and Kespa wanting a free one. OGN is the one in the wrong in this dispute but doa post is missleding .

OGN was going to offer a free 480P English stream. PPV was for the HD stream and VODs. So essentially the same kind of set-up that GOM has.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
December 06 2012 21:05 GMT
#162
On December 07 2012 06:02 Anomi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 06:00 munchmunch wrote:
On December 07 2012 05:51 Andrew2658 wrote:
As long as it is not cast from replays, so we can see the atmosphere of the event. I'll be extremely happy to watch.
Not just casted live, but casted in-studio. It makes such a huge difference, and I really don't see how MLG can provide.


the dispute seem to be that OGN want a PPV English stream and Kespa wanting a free one. OGN is the one in the wrong in this dispute but doa post is missleding .

What are you saying?

OGN would have a FREE English casted stream for their stream on weekends.
(Vods and HD would require a fee)

You are the one who's misleading I'm afraid.
The curse is real
Tminus____
Profile Joined September 2011
249 Posts
December 06 2012 21:06 GMT
#163
I hope the games are being cast LIVE and put on loop as a rebroadcast. Otherwise its back to live report threads and twitter.
cmon gimme a break im to old for this shit
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
December 06 2012 21:07 GMT
#164
On December 07 2012 06:06 Tminus____ wrote:
I hope the games are being cast LIVE and put on loop as a rebroadcast. Otherwise its back to live report threads and twitter.

And Korean streams, hopefully.
echobong
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada92 Posts
December 06 2012 21:07 GMT
#165
I hope they let DOA cast it
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
December 06 2012 21:07 GMT
#166
If there is no OGN english stream then I will simply watch the korean stream. I refuse to support MLG. I hate powerplay moves.
Long live the Boss Toss!
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 21:10:29
December 06 2012 21:08 GMT
#167
On December 07 2012 06:07 mrRoflpwn wrote:
If there is no OGN english stream then I will simply watch the korean stream. I refuse to support MLG. I hate powerplay moves.


Wait... then how you can watch KeSPA (or basically any organization)'s content?
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 06 2012 21:09 GMT
#168
On December 07 2012 06:06 Tminus____ wrote:
I hope the games are being cast LIVE and put on loop as a rebroadcast. Otherwise its back to live report threads and twitter.


Should still be able to watch the Koren OGN stream, dunno about the games played during the week tho.
Anomi
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden149 Posts
December 06 2012 21:10 GMT
#169
On December 07 2012 06:05 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 06:02 Anomi wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:00 munchmunch wrote:
On December 07 2012 05:51 Andrew2658 wrote:
As long as it is not cast from replays, so we can see the atmosphere of the event. I'll be extremely happy to watch.
Not just casted live, but casted in-studio. It makes such a huge difference, and I really don't see how MLG can provide.


the dispute seem to be that OGN want a PPV English stream and Kespa wanting a free one. OGN is the one in the wrong in this dispute but doa post is missleding .

What are you saying?

OGN would have a FREE English casted stream for their stream on weekends.
(Vods and HD would require a fee)

You are the one who's misleading I'm afraid.


so this means if somone else have the english stream the vods and HD would be free. Also this enlgish licen to ogn forces other companys that work with kespa to pay an extra fee to OGN since they have the exclusive of it . So if OGn dont have it the prolegue/mlg can be a free event.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
December 06 2012 21:11 GMT
#170
When was last time MLG had free HD?
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
December 06 2012 21:12 GMT
#171
On December 07 2012 06:10 Anomi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 06:05 Tobblish wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:02 Anomi wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:00 munchmunch wrote:
On December 07 2012 05:51 Andrew2658 wrote:
As long as it is not cast from replays, so we can see the atmosphere of the event. I'll be extremely happy to watch.
Not just casted live, but casted in-studio. It makes such a huge difference, and I really don't see how MLG can provide.


the dispute seem to be that OGN want a PPV English stream and Kespa wanting a free one. OGN is the one in the wrong in this dispute but doa post is missleding .

What are you saying?

OGN would have a FREE English casted stream for their stream on weekends.
(Vods and HD would require a fee)

You are the one who's misleading I'm afraid.


so this means if somone else have the english stream the vods and HD would be free. Also this enlgish licen to ogn forces other companys that work with kespa to pay an extra fee to OGN since they have the exclusive of it . So if OGn dont have it the prolegue/mlg can be a free event.

OGN produces the Sat/Sun proleague matches. That means MLG will need to work with them to be allowed to restream. Considering that OGN learned today that they don't have the right to do an English stream, I can't see that negotiation going well.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Sat/Sun games are casted from replay, tbh.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
December 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#172
On December 07 2012 06:10 Anomi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 06:05 Tobblish wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:02 Anomi wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:00 munchmunch wrote:
On December 07 2012 05:51 Andrew2658 wrote:
As long as it is not cast from replays, so we can see the atmosphere of the event. I'll be extremely happy to watch.
Not just casted live, but casted in-studio. It makes such a huge difference, and I really don't see how MLG can provide.


the dispute seem to be that OGN want a PPV English stream and Kespa wanting a free one. OGN is the one in the wrong in this dispute but doa post is missleding .

What are you saying?

OGN would have a FREE English casted stream for their stream on weekends.
(Vods and HD would require a fee)

You are the one who's misleading I'm afraid.


so this means if somone else have the english stream the vods and HD would be free. Also this enlgish licen to ogn forces other companys that work with kespa to pay an extra fee to OGN since they have the exclusive of it . So if OGn dont have it the prolegue/mlg can be a free event.


Sorry but I don't understand what you are saying.
The curse is real
Anomi
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden149 Posts
December 06 2012 21:19 GMT
#173
On December 07 2012 06:12 Fischbacher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 06:10 Anomi wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:05 Tobblish wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:02 Anomi wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:00 munchmunch wrote:
On December 07 2012 05:51 Andrew2658 wrote:
As long as it is not cast from replays, so we can see the atmosphere of the event. I'll be extremely happy to watch.
Not just casted live, but casted in-studio. It makes such a huge difference, and I really don't see how MLG can provide.


the dispute seem to be that OGN want a PPV English stream and Kespa wanting a free one. OGN is the one in the wrong in this dispute but doa post is missleding .

What are you saying?

OGN would have a FREE English casted stream for their stream on weekends.
(Vods and HD would require a fee)

You are the one who's misleading I'm afraid.


so this means if somone else have the english stream the vods and HD would be free. Also this enlgish licen to ogn forces other companys that work with kespa to pay an extra fee to OGN since they have the exclusive of it . So if OGn dont have it the prolegue/mlg can be a free event.

OGN produces the Sat/Sun proleague matches. That means MLG will need to work with them to be allowed to restream. Considering that OGN learned today that they don't have the right to do an English stream, I can't see that negotiation going well.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Sat/Sun games are casted from replay, tbh.




There is actually no benefit for kespa to have a english stream that is PPV. You have to count in the fact that Teams like Eg despise ppv moddel since they get there money as sponsors exposure. Having a free quality stream with free vods is better for everyone except OGN ,
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
December 06 2012 21:19 GMT
#174
On December 07 2012 06:11 ragz_gt wrote:
When was last time MLG had free HD?

right now with the MLG Tournament of Champions. Free 1080p
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
December 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#175
On December 07 2012 06:19 Anomi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 06:12 Fischbacher wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:10 Anomi wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:05 Tobblish wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:02 Anomi wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:00 munchmunch wrote:
On December 07 2012 05:51 Andrew2658 wrote:
As long as it is not cast from replays, so we can see the atmosphere of the event. I'll be extremely happy to watch.
Not just casted live, but casted in-studio. It makes such a huge difference, and I really don't see how MLG can provide.


the dispute seem to be that OGN want a PPV English stream and Kespa wanting a free one. OGN is the one in the wrong in this dispute but doa post is missleding .

What are you saying?

OGN would have a FREE English casted stream for their stream on weekends.
(Vods and HD would require a fee)

You are the one who's misleading I'm afraid.


so this means if somone else have the english stream the vods and HD would be free. Also this enlgish licen to ogn forces other companys that work with kespa to pay an extra fee to OGN since they have the exclusive of it . So if OGn dont have it the prolegue/mlg can be a free event.

OGN produces the Sat/Sun proleague matches. That means MLG will need to work with them to be allowed to restream. Considering that OGN learned today that they don't have the right to do an English stream, I can't see that negotiation going well.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Sat/Sun games are casted from replay, tbh.




There is actually no benefit for kespa to have a english stream that is PPV. You have to count in the fact that Teams like Eg despise ppv moddel since they get there money as sponsors exposure. Having a free quality stream with free vods is better for everyone except OGN ,

If PVP means decent production value and an actual live stream then it's good for the fans.

I'll gladly pay for something of the level GOM does, and I'll definitively not watch some basement production casted from replay, no matter how free it is.
Anomi
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 21:44:21
December 06 2012 21:29 GMT
#176
On December 07 2012 06:14 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 06:10 Anomi wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:05 Tobblish wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:02 Anomi wrote:
On December 07 2012 06:00 munchmunch wrote:
On December 07 2012 05:51 Andrew2658 wrote:
As long as it is not cast from replays, so we can see the atmosphere of the event. I'll be extremely happy to watch.
Not just casted live, but casted in-studio. It makes such a huge difference, and I really don't see how MLG can provide.


the dispute seem to be that OGN want a PPV English stream and Kespa wanting a free one. OGN is the one in the wrong in this dispute but doa post is missleding .

What are you saying?

OGN would have a FREE English casted stream for their stream on weekends.
(Vods and HD would require a fee)

You are the one who's misleading I'm afraid.


so this means if somone else have the english stream the vods and HD would be free. Also this enlgish licen to ogn forces other companys that work with kespa to pay an extra fee to OGN since they have the exclusive of it . So if OGn dont have it the prolegue/mlg can be a free event.


Sorry but I don't understand what you are saying.


What i mean is that OGN seem to have issues allowing another company to stream the content . If you read Doas post you can see that OGn never agreed on kespa having their own stream running. There where still in discussion on the subject. If your rember correctly when mlg announced ppv on the prolgue /mlg model they talkt about it on some shows, Where adam said that an unknown party is making it so that we have to run the event in ppv even if we don’t want too, but in 2013 we will se changes to this. Seeing doa post and the mlg tweet it seems this party might be OGN. OGN having the licen on english stream seems to creat a situation where other companys have to pay them a licen fee to be abel to work with kespa.

Kespa also don’t seem to be forcing the issue to have a PPV model for there proleuge so it was up to them it seems everything would be free. The main thing is probably OGN refusing to let Mlg restream he content for free and want them to pay a licen fee as before. cant denie that this is just a well educated guess but i belive we should wait to make asumption that Kespa is in the wrong here since we dont know whats goes behinde closed dor and Doa dosnt seem to know him self
ZeroSix
Profile Joined March 2011
England54 Posts
December 06 2012 21:31 GMT
#177
i need to be able to watch it live. hopegfully with an english caster crew. i dont care if i have to pay for it. kespa ned to make their content accessible for the world rather than just play it in korea and llet the rest of the world read the results on TL
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
December 06 2012 21:34 GMT
#178
Basement broadcast will never be the same as commentating in real time from the venue. I probably won't be watching this.
Reapafied
Profile Joined February 2011
65 Posts
December 06 2012 21:49 GMT
#179
On December 07 2012 05:11 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 05:09 LiquidFahq wrote:
MLG Still has opportunity to work with Tasteless, Artosis, Wolf, Khaldor etc. English casters in Korea is very viable. Yea, they work for Gom but MLG does not seem shy about partnerships at all, especially with Korea. It is very possible we could see the Proleague casted by the likes of Tastosis which would just be ridiculous! If MLG and Kespa really want to make this Proleague a huge success they should not make it PPV, atleast off the back. A free English and KOrean stream would yield huge excitement and I personally think this is fing awesome and there will be an English cast one way or another so no worries Team Liquiders!

Not gonna happen. MLG and GOM are very sour right now and competing on every front.


Can you provide proof that MLG and gom are "very sour". Competition does not mean hate.. I just don't get why everyone in this community thinks so damn negative all the time.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 06 2012 22:10 GMT
#180
On December 07 2012 06:49 Reapafied wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 05:11 Fyodor wrote:
On December 07 2012 05:09 LiquidFahq wrote:
MLG Still has opportunity to work with Tasteless, Artosis, Wolf, Khaldor etc. English casters in Korea is very viable. Yea, they work for Gom but MLG does not seem shy about partnerships at all, especially with Korea. It is very possible we could see the Proleague casted by the likes of Tastosis which would just be ridiculous! If MLG and Kespa really want to make this Proleague a huge success they should not make it PPV, atleast off the back. A free English and KOrean stream would yield huge excitement and I personally think this is fing awesome and there will be an English cast one way or another so no worries Team Liquiders!

Not gonna happen. MLG and GOM are very sour right now and competing on every front.


Can you provide proof that MLG and gom are "very sour". Competition does not mean hate.. I just don't get why everyone in this community thinks so damn negative all the time.


Proof is for courtrooms and news networks. This is TL, where we assume every business acts the same as a caddy middle school girl.
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