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Blueheart
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden29 Posts
November 28 2012 17:21 GMT
#181
On November 28 2012 16:26 MooMooMugi wrote:
Was TSL's ace for a while when Polt left

When did Polt leave TSL? I don't remember him doing it o.O
Sup
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
November 28 2012 17:26 GMT
#182
Acer Revival inc
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 18:41:07
November 28 2012 18:39 GMT
#183
On November 29 2012 02:21 Blueheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 16:26 MooMooMugi wrote:
Was TSL's ace for a while when Polt left

When did Polt leave TSL? I don't remember him doing it o.O


When he left to foreign tournaments, Revival was send for ace in teamleagues is what he meant I think.

With Inori switching to LoL and Revival leaving, it's time for Coach Lee to look for talent I feel.
Revival is a great great player, but it's hard for him to be more than " TSL Zerg +1" even if his ZvZ sniping is quite famous.

I feel he can get quite more popularity in a foreign team.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
November 28 2012 19:36 GMT
#184
On November 29 2012 01:29 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 00:59 Steel wrote:
On November 28 2012 21:44 Psychobabas wrote:
On November 28 2012 21:28 masterbreti wrote:
On November 28 2012 19:47 furo wrote:
On November 28 2012 18:53 Shinta) wrote:
On November 28 2012 18:24 Psychobabas wrote:
How come people don't expect stuff like this?

Revival can potentially be given an opportunity to travel the world and win easy (easier) money, rather than share a packed pro-house in some flat in Seoul with another 10 Koreans all crammed up. Makes sense to me.

You think they arent jealous of Puma in that amazing EG house in Arizona or ForGG travelling in France?

If I were a pro gamer, I would rather be good than to live in a fancy house.


dont kid yourself

player A works 6h/day and gets ~3k/month total
player B works 10h/day and gets 2k/month total

and you want to be player B?

yes i pulled numbers out of my ass :p


I'll do a slightly more accurate number crunching for you

Player A works 10 hours a day and gets 0 a month total (esf player)
Player B works 8 hours a day and gets 500 a month total ( Korean player on foreign team)


Player A Get his entire expenses covered for him. He doesn't have to worry about anything but playing and being his best. He lives with his friends and gets to have fun in his free time with his friends.

Player B gets 500 a month, works almost the same hours but lives with his family, and doesn't get much time to see his friends, since he has to travel across the city to see them. He also has to listen to his family complain about his career and try to force him into a career that is more "proper" and makes more money.

Player A improves rapidly and always is up to date with the current meta game, and has people whom he can bounce ideas and practice with.

Player B doesn't have many practice partners, and is unable to bounce ideas off of anyone.

Player A has a good chance of mkaing it into Code A, which although not a lot of money, he can make a lot if he improves and does well.

Player B has very little chance of doing well in or ourside Korea, since the competition is so swamped in foreign compeitions that being a Code A level player isn't going to get you very far.

That is a lot more accurate than your tbh. Although Player B will benefit in the short term, in the long term he likely won't make as much money. Someone like revival though won't do well, since he isn't a top tier player, although he is extremely good, he has a wealth of competition.


I would agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that in SC2 the difference in skill can be extremely small in addition to how easy it is for a less-skilled player to take games off a higher-skilled. Your explanation worked in Brood War...


Meh, when you look at players like taeja or hero who have so much raw skill, the lack of practice partners really shows when they play in the gsl

didn't stop them from getting multiple top4/top8 this year, which is quite a lot better than most progamers on a team haha


Consider the fact that HerO Was in the Ogs house until it closed down, which was back in Feburary, iirc HerO did have some stuggles for a time where he wasn't doing so hot in some matchups. Recently he has changed that and gotten back into shape.

Taeja on the otherhand never lived in a teamhouse and had the personal motivation to acheive what he could.

My prime examples in terms of player leaving teamhouses only to end up falling in skill and not being able to acheive a lot would be Supernova, JYP, Puma, Zenio, and MMA
Blueheart
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden29 Posts
November 28 2012 19:42 GMT
#185
On November 29 2012 03:39 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 02:21 Blueheart wrote:
On November 28 2012 16:26 MooMooMugi wrote:
Was TSL's ace for a while when Polt left

When did Polt leave TSL? I don't remember him doing it o.O


When he left to foreign tournaments, Revival was send for ace in teamleagues is what he meant I think.

With Inori switching to LoL and Revival leaving, it's time for Coach Lee to look for talent I feel.
Revival is a great great player, but it's hard for him to be more than " TSL Zerg +1" even if his ZvZ sniping is quite famous.

I feel he can get quite more popularity in a foreign team.

I have to agree with all of that, I believe that he'll find more success in one of the foreigner teams, I hope that he'll become better and that we'll one day see him do some great things, been following him for a while now, can't wait to see him get into a new team
Sup
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
November 28 2012 20:04 GMT
#186
awww I liked him on TSL, now they are down a good zerg. Hope he ends up somewhere good.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 28 2012 20:21 GMT
#187
Huh, sounds a bit weird, especially his reasoning that he wants to go to foreign events. He was quite often at foreign events, more so than some other team's aces I believe. And TSL is a team pretty famous for building talent, so there goes that argument as well. But I can't blame him, after all he was his team's 4th best Zerg and his prime reason probably is money, which is valid even though Korean pros are usually too shy to say so.
Get off my lawn, young punks
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
November 29 2012 01:52 GMT
#188
good luck out there. No more original TSL members?
I'm terranfying
Wounded31
Profile Joined October 2011
124 Posts
November 29 2012 01:59 GMT
#189
TT
MKP!
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 12:45:47
November 29 2012 12:45 GMT
#190
"being too comfortable" "wanting a fresh start" "wanting to challenge myself" are all code for not making enough money and wanting to join a foreign team. It's a nice way of saying it, and I'm sure there's always an element of truth to what they're saying, but it boils down to the same thing. The player always wants to/ends up joining a foreign team.
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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
November 29 2012 13:02 GMT
#191
On November 29 2012 21:45 Subversive wrote:
"being too comfortable" "wanting a fresh start" "wanting to challenge myself" are all code for not making enough money and wanting to join a foreign team. It's a nice way of saying it, and I'm sure there's always an element of truth to what they're saying, but it boils down to the same thing. The player always wants to/ends up joining a foreign team.




So many players say that stuff its kinda easy to figure out.

What Im really wondering is how some korean teams get hold of players like mkp, drg and jjakji.

A big mystery
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
neozxa
Profile Joined August 2011
Indonesia545 Posts
November 30 2012 05:02 GMT
#192
This is very unexpected. I wonder where is he going to go to now...
Keep moving forward
IceBergZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia176 Posts
November 30 2012 07:25 GMT
#193
nooooooooooooo
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 11:20:01
November 30 2012 11:00 GMT
#194
Good luck to Revival! Sad to see him leave TSL though

/edit

All TSL Zergs look the same to me >.>;
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 30 2012 11:04 GMT
#195
On November 30 2012 20:00 plogamer wrote:
Good luck to Symbol! Sad to see him leave TSL though

symbol isn't leaving o.O
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SCMethod
Profile Joined November 2012
United States40 Posts
December 02 2012 20:48 GMT
#196
I hope that hes able to do what he wants. Good luck revival!
Csong
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada396 Posts
December 04 2012 04:12 GMT
#197
On November 29 2012 21:45 Subversive wrote:
"being too comfortable" "wanting a fresh start" "wanting to challenge myself" are all code for not making enough money and wanting to join a foreign team. It's a nice way of saying it, and I'm sure there's always an element of truth to what they're saying, but it boils down to the same thing. The player always wants to/ends up joining a foreign team.


lol so true
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 15:40:34
December 04 2012 15:37 GMT
#198
Often it seems as if Korean players break from team houses to play on their own, the next step is being picked up by a foreign team. Think this will happen again.

"being too comfortable" "wanting a fresh start" "wanting to challenge myself" are all code for not making enough money and wanting to join a foreign team. It's a nice way of saying it, and I'm sure there's always an element of truth to what they're saying, but it boils down to the same thing. The player always wants to/ends up joining a foreign team.
I agree with this. Well put.

So many players say that stuff its kinda easy to figure out.

What Im really wondering is how some korean teams get hold of players like mkp, drg and jjakji.

A big mystery
Think it is because they are the star players on their teams.
LiangHao
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 04 2012 15:40 GMT
#199
EG_REVIVAL?

:O
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paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
December 04 2012 16:24 GMT
#200
Seems weird that a zerg player would leave a team with arguably the best zerg lineup.
Every TSL transfer confuses me, they have gained and lost some truly skilled players.
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