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On November 15 2012 10:22 Kaoru wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:06 1Dhalism wrote:On November 15 2012 08:37 IronSquid wrote:
The groups were made with seeds based on both achievements and current form. Stephano being 4th on the all time money list and a multiple premier events winner, don't be surprised if he gets a better seed than several Koreans. Yea, my first thought was that Stephano gets preferrential treatment, but then i realized that there is really no difference between a Stephano and a korean, so for all intents and purposes it's Mana who is the "foreigner" hope in that group, skill wise. Due of the little issue with Stephano the last edition, I can tell you that he did not get any "treatment", we did our Group fair & square with everyone, and Stephano got this group due of his results in the past months. Thanks for Feedback,let's rock now ^_^ !!
I'm still a little confused. So you're saying that Stephano didn't get a really good group because of luck or preferred treatment. He got it because he has done very well in the past few months? Life has done pretty good in the past few months and he's in a group with seed and creator. Maybe I'm just confused and Stephano did get lucky?
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He is taking a shot at Stephano's no show from Iron Squid, as there is no reason for them to do him any favor.
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Just curious, could you tell the seeds attributed to each player?
Anyway, sick tournament! Looking forward to it.
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On November 15 2012 10:45 ragz_gt wrote:
He is taking a shot at Stephano's no show from Iron Squid, as there is no reason for them to do him any favor.
Oh I don't believe there was any preferred treatment. It's just odd to say that stephano got a good group because of recent results and then stick everyone else with good recent results into groups from hell. I think stephano just got lucky the seeding system they used gave him a nice group. Nothing wrong with that. I just wanted clarification.
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imo what tournaments which dont have a proper seeding structure need to do, is record and make a hype video of the seeds being chosen and how. Even if we end up watching a guy pull names out of a hat (literally) for 10 minutes, I think this would avoid a lot of confusion and/or rumors of player favoritism.
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Wow! This tournament is gonna be amazing.
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Really I could care less about group been fair or not. The result is important, not the method. MLG keep doing their "seeding" and "point" system and keep ending up with most messed up groups ever. What's the point of a fair and balanced system if anyone can make better groups within 5 minutes?
These groups are good, so who cares about how we arrived at them.
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On November 15 2012 11:02 ragz_gt wrote:
Really I could care less about group been fair or not. The result is important, not the method. MLG keep doing their "seeding" and "point" system and keep ending up with most messed up groups ever. What's the point of a fair and balanced system if anyone can make better groups within 5 minutes?
These groups are good, so who cares about how we arrived at them.
Are you seriously saying you don't care if tournaments are fair or not...
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I'm saying I don't care if group selection PROCESS is fair or not as long as actual group THEMSELVES are fair.
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Just another sick looking tourney in the month of November. Groups look pretty good. Tough draw for Kas though 
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Hmm.. no time mentioned in the op. I hope it starts around 10 pm!
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On November 15 2012 11:21 ragz_gt wrote:
I'm saying I don't care if group selection PROCESS is fair or not as long as actual group THEMSELVES are fair.
yes, but some people are of the ideological belief that there is no fair group without a fair process 
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On November 15 2012 11:27 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 11:21 ragz_gt wrote:
I'm saying I don't care if group selection PROCESS is fair or not as long as actual group THEMSELVES are fair. yes, but some people are of the ideological belief that there is no fair group without a fair process
It should work for them then. Since my end result is fair group, if they can't be achieved without fair process, it would guarantee that process was fair. I'm not against fair process, I just don't care :p
What I am against are elaborated 3 step point systems that ends up with groups that make no sense *cough cough MLG*
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Poor Sase.. lol
Such a sick lineup!
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MMA please make at least top five to show that you are still sexy <3
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Symbol or Ganzi will win.
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Nah, MMA or DRG will win. Return of the giants.
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lol Group G voted in 3rd for group of death? Seed, Life, and Creator are all better than every player in Group G (except maybe MVP but I think he has been relaxing a bit more after doing well last GSL like he always does, he'll still be back on top eventually).
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Group of death? How about all of them?
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Any group with three Koreans have the right to be called that.
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EPT
