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Axiom eSports signs ex-SlayerS player: Ryung - Page 6

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Littlemuff
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom301 Posts
November 07 2012 13:18 GMT
#101
Time for tea indeed.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 07 2012 13:19 GMT
#102
Grats to ryung and Axiom, cute video to
NotoriousBig
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Germany301 Posts
November 07 2012 13:28 GMT
#103
happy to seee him continuing playing sc2 and not retiring,
redc
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 13:35:05
November 07 2012 13:29 GMT
#104
Sorry but at this point team Axiom is now team FAILURE, there are many variables involved but at this point Axiom have failed early and failed hard.

So they've picked up a second player in Ryung, but they've shown they're inable to get 1 foreign player to a simple 1 scheduled match in an MLG tournament. The entire "team process" was getting 1 guy to 1 match at the right time at the right place and they couldn't do that.

It is not that hard. Of all the teams I could mention EG managed to get all their guys to all their matches, this is what a well run team does.

They fly someone halfway around the world and totally fuck up their scheduling. The guy is still live in the tournament but they're fine with him sleeping in the hotel. Really? It's not that hard? Total->Failure.

Edit: A typo or two.

User was temp banned for this post.
Vertigro
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom261 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 13:33:17
November 07 2012 13:32 GMT
#105
On November 07 2012 22:29 redc wrote: there are many variables involved..


Please.. do go on
"..." - Greg 'IdrA' Fields +++ DeMuslim, Naniwa, Jaedong, Hero, Suppy! <3 <3
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 13:34:35
November 07 2012 13:33 GMT
#106
On November 07 2012 22:29 redc wrote:
Sorry but at this point team Axiom is now team FAILURE, there are many variables involved but at this point Axiom have failed early and failed hard.

So they've picked up a second player in Ryung, but they've shown they're inable to get 1 foreign player to a simple 1 scheduled match in an MLG tournament. The entire team "team process" was getting 1 guy to 1 match at the right time at the right place and they couldn't do that.

It is not that hard. Of all the teams I could mention EG managed to get all their guys to all their matches, this is what a well run team does.


They fly someone halfway around the world and totally fuck up their scheduling. The guy is still live in the tournament but they're fine with him sleeping in the hotel. Really? It's not that hard? Total->Failure.


Like that time with Idra at Providence? You know the one where Idra tweeted that he couldn't hear the call and ended up gifting Haypro an additional $750.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
November 07 2012 13:36 GMT
#107
On November 07 2012 22:29 redc wrote:
Sorry but at this point team Axiom is now team FAILURE, there are many variables involved but at this point Axiom have failed early and failed hard.

So they've picked up a second player in Ryung, but they've shown they're inable to get 1 foreign player to a simple 1 scheduled match in an MLG tournament. The entire team "team process" was getting 1 guy to 1 match at the right time at the right place and they couldn't do that.

It is not that hard. Of all the teams I could mention EG managed to get all their guys to all their matches, this is what a well run team does.

They fly someone halfway around the world and totally fuck up their scheduling. The guy is still live in the tournament but they're fine with him sleeping in the hotel. Really? It's not that hard? Total->Failure.



Care to explain what those "many variables" are?



Also, great pickup

AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
November 07 2012 13:38 GMT
#108
On November 07 2012 22:29 redc wrote:
Sorry but at this point team Axiom is now team FAILURE, there are many variables involved but at this point Axiom have failed early and failed hard.

So they've picked up a second player in Ryung, but they've shown they're inable to get 1 foreign player to a simple 1 scheduled match in an MLG tournament. The entire team "team process" was getting 1 guy to 1 match at the right time at the right place and they couldn't do that.

It is not that hard. Of all the teams I could mention EG managed to get all their guys to all their matches, this is what a well run team does.

They fly someone halfway around the world and totally fuck up their scheduling. The guy is still live in the tournament but they're fine with him sleeping in the hotel. Really? It's not that hard? Total->Failure.

I get the feeling you just want to rant, any normal person with half a brain would be able to muster the understanding for this mistake. if you have not read what goes on at MLGs if you have not read the reasons and apologies then you are an even bigger failure.


If your bus is supposed to arrive at 10:00 and you plan for that but somehow the bus is earlier than expected but you are right on time causing you to mis your bus. doesnt make YOU the incompetent one. sure you could goto the busstop now if you want to catch your bus tomorrow.. but who the f does that?
redc
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia81 Posts
November 07 2012 13:50 GMT
#109
On November 07 2012 22:33 Ysellian wrote:
Like that time with Idra at Providence? You know the one where Idra tweeted that he couldn't hear the call and ended up gifting Haypro an additional $750.


I actually agree, however my point was that at this tournament in 2012 all of the EG guys were in the right place at the right time. I'm not much of an EG fan but SirScoots/EG managed to get everyone in the right place at the right time. Maybe it's as hard as herding cats but they did it. So did a bunch of other teams. End of story.

Axiom with 1 player and 1 upcoming match failed to do so, this is the simple fact.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 13:58:33
November 07 2012 13:56 GMT
#110
On November 07 2012 22:50 redc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 22:33 Ysellian wrote:
Like that time with Idra at Providence? You know the one where Idra tweeted that he couldn't hear the call and ended up gifting Haypro an additional $750.


I actually agree, however my point was that at this tournament in 2012 all of the EG guys were in the right place at the right time. I'm not much of an EG fan but SirScoots/EG managed to get everyone in the right place at the right time. Maybe it's as hard as herding cats but they did it. So did a bunch of other teams. End of story.

Axiom with 1 player and 1 upcoming match failed to do so, this is the simple fact.

And there's been several occasion during MLG when other teams have failed, MLG is notorious for their hectic schedule. Of course people should hold Axiom accountable for mistakes but it's a easy mistake to make proven by the numerous occasions this have happened during all MLG's. Maybe people should cut a brand new team a little slack. And having 1 player doesn't necessarily make it easier since there's less people on a team that can discover mistakes.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
TC_Beynbio
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Norway81 Posts
November 07 2012 13:57 GMT
#111
great pickup axiom!
y'all got more of them....pylons?
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 07 2012 14:02 GMT
#112
Guess we know who MMA is looking to go to now as well. Good pick up, hopefully the seemingly simpler management structure of Axiom will benefit Ryung.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
November 07 2012 14:02 GMT
#113
Ryung seems like a fun guy!
Glad he got picked up from Axiom. Hopefully he is able to continue being successful.
redc
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia81 Posts
November 07 2012 14:10 GMT
#114
Seriously ppl are asking me what the many variables are?

- cross cultural differences
- language barrier, after it's been through translators
- time zones
- keeping up with the MLG schedule, as hard as it may have been to figure out
- a mixture of all of the above

I really don't understand what Axiom were focusing on, to miss that there were going to be 4 rounds of the loser bracket played on Saturday. For some reason they assumed there wouldn't even be 1 round, in the end 4 were played.

I don't know why ppl are so defensive, I'm not allowed to correctly point out that the failure was from Axiom and not MLG or Crank?
Vertigro
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom261 Posts
November 07 2012 14:21 GMT
#115
On November 07 2012 23:10 redc wrote: I don't know why ppl are so defensive, I'm not allowed to correctly point out that the failure was from Axiom and not MLG or Crank?


You're allowed to say whatever you like within reason.. the problem lies within you saying your're correct, and going about it in a dramatic and retarded manner
"..." - Greg 'IdrA' Fields +++ DeMuslim, Naniwa, Jaedong, Hero, Suppy! <3 <3
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 07 2012 14:22 GMT
#116
On November 07 2012 23:10 redc wrote:
Seriously ppl are asking me what the many variables are?

- cross cultural differences
- language barrier, after it's been through translators
- time zones
- keeping up with the MLG schedule, as hard as it may have been to figure out
- a mixture of all of the above

I really don't understand what Axiom were focusing on, to miss that there were going to be 4 rounds of the loser bracket played on Saturday. For some reason they assumed there wouldn't even be 1 round, in the end 4 were played.

I don't know why ppl are so defensive, I'm not allowed to correctly point out that the failure was from Axiom and not MLG or Crank?


Sure you can do that, but calling the whole team a failure? Seriously...

And by that variables many teams, including Liquid, EG, Fnatic, FXO (x3) etc would be failures. Yet those teams are amongst the most successful in SC2. Maybe you should reconsider your point of view.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
November 07 2012 14:22 GMT
#117
On November 07 2012 23:10 redc wrote:
Seriously ppl are asking me what the many variables are?

- cross cultural differences
- language barrier, after it's been through translators
- time zones
- keeping up with the MLG schedule, as hard as it may have been to figure out
- a mixture of all of the above

I really don't understand what Axiom were focusing on, to miss that there were going to be 4 rounds of the loser bracket played on Saturday. For some reason they assumed there wouldn't even be 1 round, in the end 4 were played.

I don't know why ppl are so defensive, I'm not allowed to correctly point out that the failure was from Axiom and not MLG or Crank?


But they have already admitted that they made the mistake. What else do you want from them?
Why does this single mistake turn their whole team into "Team FAILURE"?
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 14:34:17
November 07 2012 14:31 GMT
#118
On November 07 2012 23:10 redc wrote:
Seriously ppl are asking me what the many variables are?

- cross cultural differences
- language barrier, after it's been through translators
- time zones
- keeping up with the MLG schedule, as hard as it may have been to figure out
- a mixture of all of the above

I really don't understand what Axiom were focusing on, to miss that there were going to be 4 rounds of the loser bracket played on Saturday. For some reason they assumed there wouldn't even be 1 round, in the end 4 were played.

I don't know why ppl are so defensive, I'm not allowed to correctly point out that the failure was from Axiom and not MLG or Crank?

LOL obvious hater is obvious..
In the words of the TL mods, please keep the hyperbole to a dull roar
Axiom is far from "team failure"
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Dark supplydepo
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden103 Posts
November 07 2012 14:31 GMT
#119
Nice
Supreme exellence is deafeting your opponent without fighting. It is also boring
Zyufin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States85 Posts
November 07 2012 14:43 GMT
#120
Get that kid in Code S, pronto.

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