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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
November 01 2012 14:36 GMT
#601
mlg has a free hd stream right? Then all is well

And to all those who purchased a gsl-ticket mainly for rain: TOO BAD SUCKERS :D
Amove for Aiur
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
November 01 2012 14:39 GMT
#602
On November 01 2012 23:08 johnny123 wrote:
to me , this makes sense from rains position, He has quite a few tournaments to play this month. it will be better for his schedule atleast for this month if he did not have to keep playing all the time. He still has Blizzard WCS finals which is a butttttttttttttttttloadd of money to be won . I dont think he cares about gsl this season.



Of course he cares to have a chance to defend his title. Why would he not? Being a bit fatigued after a flight isn't that enormous for his easy open bracket, or whatever. Some people here keep mentioning KESPA decided for him, and I tend to think that is correct.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
November 01 2012 14:41 GMT
#603
Rain is not the first Korean pro to possibly underestimate the MLG Open Bracket. So far he's never had to play when having to deal with real jetlag (his only other tournament abroad, WCS Asia in China, was basically the same timezone). And having to play against unknown opponent after unknown opponent all condensed in just a single weekend is a completely different beast in terms of stamina and preparation than playing a limited amount of known opponents you can prepare for over the course of several weeks like in GSL or OSL. As we know, Open Bracket games will barely be shown on the MLG streams, if at all then primarily on the premium streams only. To have foreign fans shout his name and all, he would have to make it to playing on stage. It may be a rude awakening if he doesn't succeed in doing so. And then what's next for him is facing elimination in Code A Ro48 (next OSL and Proleague have not been announced).

Obviously SKT T1 is to be blamed here for not notifing GOMTV well in advance so that Rain's Code S group could have been swapped (as they have done several times in the past). Seeing how Rain's schedule was initially submitted to GOM as requested (with no mentioning of MLG, mind you) and how defensive MLG's Adam Apicella has been on his Twitter, I can't help but think that after Rain won OSL (and it was clear he had not qualified through MLG's MvP tournament) MLG reminded KeSPA of their exclusive deal (plus how awesome it would be to have Rain at MLG Dallas after all) and that may have set things in motion. MLG may have also possibly mentioned that Code S finals involving KeSPA player Rain at an event of their direct NA competitor IGN/IPL in Las Vegas may become a complicated issue. Who knows.

Either way, I guess we'll see how things stand between KeSPA teams and the GSL league when the list of competitors in the Code A qualifiers after next week is released. Here's hoping that the 5-party talks in Korea (Blizzard, KeSPA, eSF, OGN, GOM) will address all the issues sufficiently and prevent such problems in the future.
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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
November 01 2012 14:44 GMT
#604
On November 01 2012 23:39 Mondieu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 23:08 johnny123 wrote:
to me , this makes sense from rains position, He has quite a few tournaments to play this month. it will be better for his schedule atleast for this month if he did not have to keep playing all the time. He still has Blizzard WCS finals which is a butttttttttttttttttloadd of money to be won . I dont think he cares about gsl this season.



Of course he cares to have a chance to defend his title. Why would he not? Being a bit fatigued after a flight isn't that enormous for his easy open bracket, or whatever. Some people here keep mentioning KESPA decided for him, and I tend to think that is correct.


gsl is not osl my friend.
Amove for Aiur
Mungosh
Profile Joined February 2011
365 Posts
November 01 2012 14:44 GMT
#605
On November 01 2012 23:39 Mondieu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 23:08 johnny123 wrote:
to me , this makes sense from rains position, He has quite a few tournaments to play this month. it will be better for his schedule atleast for this month if he did not have to keep playing all the time. He still has Blizzard WCS finals which is a butttttttttttttttttloadd of money to be won . I dont think he cares about gsl this season.



Of course he cares to have a chance to defend his title. Why would he not? Being a bit fatigued after a flight isn't that enormous for his easy open bracket, or whatever. Some people here keep mentioning KESPA decided for him, and I tend to think that is correct.

His title? He didn't win GSL, he won OSL which I'm quite sure he's still gonna attend.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 14:46:51
November 01 2012 14:46 GMT
#606
Absolutely covered in KesPa's fingerprints honestly. Still trying to get one over on GoM in their petty spat to take control of the Korean scene.

Oh well, bit of a shame. But if Rain really wants to prove he's the best player in the world he's going to have to back it up with a GSL championship, preferably soon. Wandering off to play in MLG isn't going to be enough proof; I just hope he realises that. Wins in other tournaments simply don't matter as much.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
November 01 2012 14:47 GMT
#607
On November 01 2012 23:41 Proseat wrote:
Rain is not the first Korean pro to possibly underestimate the MLG Open Bracket. So far he's never had to play when having to deal with real jetlag (his only other tournament abroad, WCS Asia in China, was basically the same timezone). And having to play against unknown opponent after unknown opponent all condensed in just a single weekend is a completely different beast in terms of stamina and preparation than playing a limited amount of known opponents you can prepare for over the course of several weeks like in GSL or OSL. As we know, Open Bracket games will barely be shown on the MLG streams, if at all then primarily on the premium streams only. To have foreign fans shout his name and all, he would have to make it to playing on stage. It may be a rude awakening if he doesn't succeed in doing so. And then what's next for him is facing elimination in Code A Ro48 (next OSL and Proleague have not been announced).

Obviously SKT T1 is to be blamed here for not notifing GOMTV well in advance so that Rain's Code S group could have been swapped (as they have done several times in the past). Seeing how Rain's schedule was initially submitted to GOM as requested (with no mentioning of MLG, mind you) and how defensive MLG's Adam Apicella has been on his Twitter, I can't help but think that after Rain won OSL (and it was clear he had not qualified through MLG's MvP tournament) MLG reminded KeSPA of their exclusive deal (plus how awesome it would be to have Rain at MLG Dallas after all) and that may have set things in motion. MLG may have also possibly mentioned that Code S finals involving KeSPA player Rain at an event of their direct NA competitor IGN/IPL in Las Vegas may become a complicated issue. Who knows.

Either way, I guess we'll see how things stand between KeSPA teams and the GSL league when the list of competitors in the Code A qualifiers after next week is released. Here's hoping that the 5-party talks in Korea (Blizzard, KeSPA, eSF, OGN, GOM) will address all the issues sufficiently and prevent such problems in the future.


I think you make a good point about stamina and preparation time, but in my opinion the open bracket format fits Rain's very defensive style pretty well. The guy seems to be very good at defending early aggression, and he surely will get cheesed a lot. In my opinion he won't win the whole thing but he will make a good run like 5th to 8th place finish.
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
November 01 2012 14:47 GMT
#608
This is a big let down, he was one of the protosses, i was really pushing to get far.
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
November 01 2012 14:48 GMT
#609
On November 01 2012 23:36 Snusmumriken wrote:
mlg has a free hd stream right? Then all is well

And to all those who purchased a gsl-ticket mainly for rain: TOO BAD SUCKERS :D


Rain is good, but not the best -- despite the hype train. A few seasons ago Squirtle was hyped as the best, then Symbol was over-hyped, then Rain. GSL will still be amazing without Rain. I want to see if Mvp can finally get his 5th title in this 5th season of 2012.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
November 01 2012 14:49 GMT
#610
On November 01 2012 23:47 Devise wrote:
This is a big let down, he was one of the protosses, i was really pushing to get far.

Yeah it was but on the other hand this MLG is gonna be fucking sick.
Can't believe an SKT protoss is competing in MLG!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 01 2012 14:49 GMT
#611
Haha, some pretty hilarious posts in this thread. Here are my favourite examples:

1) This damages GSL's credibility. - Just, no, not in any way. O-o
2) He was smart to pick MLG over GSL. - Uh, that's not the issue here, he's allowed to do that, the issue is the failure to plan ahead and announce it a mere week before the actual even, as GOMTV is extremely lenient with rescheduling.
3) This was the only reason I'd watch GSL, now I'm sad I bought a ticket. - No comment... >_<;
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
November 01 2012 14:49 GMT
#612
I'm pretty sure Rain didn't choose this alone or he really, really doesn't know what MLG is. Cause an open bracket over code S is absurd.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
November 01 2012 14:53 GMT
#613
On November 01 2012 23:49 Shinespark wrote:
I'm pretty sure Rain didn't choose this alone or he really, really doesn't know what MLG is. Cause an open bracket over code S is absurd.


Why? You have to put yourself in his shoes, it is not all about the game, it is the first chance for the guy to visit a western culture, he is young and wants to get around, see the world and stuff. GSL won't end, he will get plenty of chances to play GSL again..
ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
November 01 2012 14:55 GMT
#614
Awww. I want rain to win a GSL.
It's better aerodynamics for space. - Artosis
Mirrikh
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania105 Posts
November 01 2012 14:58 GMT
#615
I wonder how much money MLG payed to screw GSL on this one.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
November 01 2012 14:58 GMT
#616
On November 01 2012 23:48 Salient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 23:36 Snusmumriken wrote:
mlg has a free hd stream right? Then all is well

And to all those who purchased a gsl-ticket mainly for rain: TOO BAD SUCKERS :D


Rain is good, but not the best -- despite the hype train. A few seasons ago Squirtle was hyped as the best, then Symbol was over-hyped, then Rain. GSL will still be amazing without Rain. I want to see if Mvp can finally get his 5th title in this 5th season of 2012.


Sure I personally dont care, though gsl so far has been subpar to last season imo (not because rain isnt there). Really Im just happy if there are any terrans left in ro4.
Amove for Aiur
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 15:02:50
November 01 2012 15:02 GMT
#617
Honestly, I hope he bombs out due to a bunch of cheeses/fatique at this point. One simply does not pull last minute stuff like this.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 01 2012 15:08 GMT
#618
On November 01 2012 23:53 AngryMag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 23:49 Shinespark wrote:
I'm pretty sure Rain didn't choose this alone or he really, really doesn't know what MLG is. Cause an open bracket over code S is absurd.


Why? You have to put yourself in his shoes, it is not all about the game, it is the first chance for the guy to visit a western culture, he is young and wants to get around, see the world and stuff. GSL won't end, he will get plenty of chances to play GSL again..


As mentioned before, the GSL finals in in Las vegas so i doubt "visiting a western culture" is the reason.
sinigang
Profile Joined August 2012
360 Posts
November 01 2012 15:10 GMT
#619
Stop with the drama, it's just business, folks. KeSPA and MLG have a partnership contract (http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-and-kespa-announce-exclusive-multi-year-partnership), and so obviously KeSPA has all the right to prioritize this over GSL any day. While yes, GOM has the right to whine like a baby 'cause KeSPA/SKT didn't inform them "on time", but until there's a signed agreement about the exact schedules for cancellation etc., GOM really can't do anything about it. So until then, KeSPA can and will surely get away with these arrogant but petty moves, as we've seen many times before.

Solved!
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
November 01 2012 15:10 GMT
#620
On November 02 2012 00:02 achan1058 wrote:
Honestly, I hope he bombs out due to a bunch of cheeses/fatique at this point. One simply does not pull last minute stuff like this.


Don't hate on players, hate SKT, hate GSL rush season, hate MLG.
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