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Mozzery
Profile Joined January 2012
United States140 Posts
October 28 2012 16:53 GMT
#141
I'm not sure if this is unprecedented, but from the outside I like the idea of taking advantage of the low current marketability levels for players to potentially get a good deal on other members of the organization including translations, web design, etc. IF even one of the NA players actually achieves name recognition and encourages support for FXO's business, (not impossible even if not expected) then that seems to be a bonus for them. I have to congratulate FXO for such business thinking, unless of course Seeker becomes the new manager J, and destroys trust in addition to allegedly turning down sponsorship opportunities for players, (though I doubt FXOboss would be stupid enough to let Seeker use his official e-mail).
Proponent of team liquid word filtering imbalanced to "at an unacceptable level of racial balance/game design"
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 18:54:42
October 28 2012 18:54 GMT
#142
On October 29 2012 01:53 Mozzery wrote:
I'm not sure if this is unprecedented, but from the outside I like the idea of taking advantage of the low current marketability levels for players to potentially get a good deal on other members of the organization including translations, web design, etc. IF even one of the NA players actually achieves name recognition and encourages support for FXO's business, (not impossible even if not expected) then that seems to be a bonus for them. I have to congratulate FXO for such business thinking, unless of course Seeker becomes the new manager J, and destroys trust in addition to allegedly turning down sponsorship opportunities for players, (though I doubt FXOboss would be stupid enough to let Seeker use his official e-mail).

-__-;; Manager J screwed over my favorite team. I would NEVER become what I despise.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
October 28 2012 19:03 GMT
#143
On October 29 2012 01:44 -TGO- wrote:
Kami, how come you don't hang around legion anymore? :<

no pc or internet :<
on my phone right now bruh mane
ok
Mozzery
Profile Joined January 2012
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 19:18:49
October 28 2012 19:12 GMT
#144
On October 29 2012 03:54 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 01:53 Mozzery wrote:
I'm not sure if this is unprecedented, but from the outside I like the idea of taking advantage of the low current marketability levels for players to potentially get a good deal on other members of the organization including translations, web design, etc. IF even one of the NA players actually achieves name recognition and encourages support for FXO's business, (not impossible even if not expected) then that seems to be a bonus for them. I have to congratulate FXO for such business thinking, unless of course Seeker becomes the new manager J, and destroys trust in addition to allegedly turning down sponsorship opportunities for players, (though I doubt FXOboss would be stupid enough to let Seeker use his official e-mail).

-__-;; Manager J screwed over my favorite team. I would NEVER become what I despise.


You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain- Harvey Dent

Though seriously, I love your work and believe you can be an asset to FXO with your skills, I'm not sure exactly how much you'll be able to affect the bottom line, but I know that you are good at what you do. I also believe that you are eithical, but even if I didn't FXOBoss seems to understand at least a bit the idea of chain of command and I'm guessing redundancy so I'm not as worried for FXO, (If I were in charge of an e-sports team I would make sure an important e-mail such as one regarding sponsorships, was either sent to a private e-mail of mine or if not "that big of a deal but still important/important but in an area I don't understand" then at least 2 other subordinates, (or friends if you are desperate/a small organization). Always make sure that the only way for your organization to be sabotaged is by collusion, not by just an individual. I understand it is sometimes an extremely hard rule to follow, but redundancy is of high importance, even in something as simple as retail you would never be happy about the guy who counts the money being the same guy who deposits it. Redundancy is a key rule you learn in business school, (( it was for me at least)).
Proponent of team liquid word filtering imbalanced to "at an unacceptable level of racial balance/game design"
U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
October 28 2012 19:18 GMT
#145
On October 28 2012 13:18 FXOUnstable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 13:14 Gamegene wrote:
o.o so does this mean FXO.Avilo..?

Pretty cool to see FXOpen now owning 3 fully fledged teams in the three major SC2 continents :D


Avilo's position on the team has not been fully decided, It is still being discussed internally

Please pick up Avilo, as outspoken as he may be, he has a lot of loyal fans and a lot of potential.

Avilo kicks ass
U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 19:28:42
October 28 2012 19:25 GMT
#146
On October 28 2012 14:07 ROOTCatZ wrote:
FXOAvilo, he's not the hero we need right now but, he's the hero... wait, nope. neither apply.

Why have you become such a hateful malicious person?

Grow up and stop being a dick. Your team deserves more professional behavior.
-TGO-
Profile Joined October 2012
United States156 Posts
October 28 2012 22:27 GMT
#147
On October 29 2012 04:03 LgNKami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 01:44 -TGO- wrote:
Kami, how come you don't hang around legion anymore? :<

no pc or internet :<
on my phone right now bruh mane


Oh lol. That sucks. What happened?
i crash camel into bridg i no care i love it
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
October 28 2012 22:29 GMT
#148
On October 29 2012 04:25 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 14:07 ROOTCatZ wrote:
FXOAvilo, he's not the hero we need right now but, he's the hero... wait, nope. neither apply.

Why have you become such a hateful malicious person?

Grow up and stop being a dick. Your team deserves more professional behavior.


I don't like catz in any way shape or form, but he is right with that one. Avilo is not exactly a good "community figure."
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
October 28 2012 22:56 GMT
#149
On October 29 2012 07:29 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 04:25 U_G_L_Y wrote:
On October 28 2012 14:07 ROOTCatZ wrote:
FXOAvilo, he's not the hero we need right now but, he's the hero... wait, nope. neither apply.

Why have you become such a hateful malicious person?

Grow up and stop being a dick. Your team deserves more professional behavior.


I don't like catz in any way shape or form, but he is right with that one. Avilo is not exactly a good "community figure."


Yea because he's any worse than certain players on ROOT's roster, current and former...

The foreign scene is hilarious in it's resemblance of a high school community. Popularity goes much farther than actual achievement or skill. I'm pretty ambivalent towards Avilo but if FXO picks up those players and decides to leave out Avilo because of popular sentiment, that's a joke. But I guess that's where the foreign scene has been gravitating towards anyways.
aMEkaRmy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada633 Posts
October 28 2012 22:58 GMT
#150
Once again thanks for all the supportive comments!
Team Captain for FXO.NA Follow me on twitter @FXOkarmy
bullseyel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States52 Posts
October 28 2012 23:02 GMT
#151
FXOJimrising!! AWW SNAP!
Team Legion High Council Member
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
October 28 2012 23:39 GMT
#152
On October 29 2012 04:12 Mozzery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 03:54 SeeKeR wrote:
On October 29 2012 01:53 Mozzery wrote:
I'm not sure if this is unprecedented, but from the outside I like the idea of taking advantage of the low current marketability levels for players to potentially get a good deal on other members of the organization including translations, web design, etc. IF even one of the NA players actually achieves name recognition and encourages support for FXO's business, (not impossible even if not expected) then that seems to be a bonus for them. I have to congratulate FXO for such business thinking, unless of course Seeker becomes the new manager J, and destroys trust in addition to allegedly turning down sponsorship opportunities for players, (though I doubt FXOboss would be stupid enough to let Seeker use his official e-mail).

-__-;; Manager J screwed over my favorite team. I would NEVER become what I despise.


You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain- Harvey Dent

Though seriously, I love your work and believe you can be an asset to FXO with your skills, I'm not sure exactly how much you'll be able to affect the bottom line, but I know that you are good at what you do. I also believe that you are eithical, but even if I didn't FXOBoss seems to understand at least a bit the idea of chain of command and I'm guessing redundancy so I'm not as worried for FXO, (If I were in charge of an e-sports team I would make sure an important e-mail such as one regarding sponsorships, was either sent to a private e-mail of mine or if not "that big of a deal but still important/important but in an area I don't understand" then at least 2 other subordinates, (or friends if you are desperate/a small organization). Always make sure that the only way for your organization to be sabotaged is by collusion, not by just an individual. I understand it is sometimes an extremely hard rule to follow, but redundancy is of high importance, even in something as simple as retail you would never be happy about the guy who counts the money being the same guy who deposits it. Redundancy is a key rule you learn in business school, (( it was for me at least)).

I uh... appreciate the effort but am not really understanding what you're saying to be honest... :/
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Mozzery
Profile Joined January 2012
United States140 Posts
October 29 2012 00:15 GMT
#153
On October 29 2012 08:39 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 04:12 Mozzery wrote:
On October 29 2012 03:54 SeeKeR wrote:
On October 29 2012 01:53 Mozzery wrote:
I'm not sure if this is unprecedented, but from the outside I like the idea of taking advantage of the low current marketability levels for players to potentially get a good deal on other members of the organization including translations, web design, etc. IF even one of the NA players actually achieves name recognition and encourages support for FXO's business, (not impossible even if not expected) then that seems to be a bonus for them. I have to congratulate FXO for such business thinking, unless of course Seeker becomes the new manager J, and destroys trust in addition to allegedly turning down sponsorship opportunities for players, (though I doubt FXOboss would be stupid enough to let Seeker use his official e-mail).

-__-;; Manager J screwed over my favorite team. I would NEVER become what I despise.


You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain- Harvey Dent

Though seriously, I love your work and believe you can be an asset to FXO with your skills, I'm not sure exactly how much you'll be able to affect the bottom line, but I know that you are good at what you do. I also believe that you are eithical, but even if I didn't FXOBoss seems to understand at least a bit the idea of chain of command and I'm guessing redundancy so I'm not as worried for FXO, (If I were in charge of an e-sports team I would make sure an important e-mail such as one regarding sponsorships, was either sent to a private e-mail of mine or if not "that big of a deal but still important/important but in an area I don't understand" then at least 2 other subordinates, (or friends if you are desperate/a small organization). Always make sure that the only way for your organization to be sabotaged is by collusion, not by just an individual. I understand it is sometimes an extremely hard rule to follow, but redundancy is of high importance, even in something as simple as retail you would never be happy about the guy who counts the money being the same guy who deposits it. Redundancy is a key rule you learn in business school, (( it was for me at least)).

I uh... appreciate the effort but am not really understanding what you're saying to be honest... :/


Sorry, the first line was a quote from the Dark Knight that popped into my head after reading your statement and I found it amusing, it was a joke. The rest in simple terms was just commenting on how I feel FXO is a strong organization that understands business principles and how they likely won't make mistakes of the same type that doomed Slayers.
Proponent of team liquid word filtering imbalanced to "at an unacceptable level of racial balance/game design"
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
October 29 2012 00:58 GMT
#154
On October 29 2012 07:56 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 07:29 hunts wrote:
On October 29 2012 04:25 U_G_L_Y wrote:
On October 28 2012 14:07 ROOTCatZ wrote:
FXOAvilo, he's not the hero we need right now but, he's the hero... wait, nope. neither apply.

Why have you become such a hateful malicious person?

Grow up and stop being a dick. Your team deserves more professional behavior.


I don't like catz in any way shape or form, but he is right with that one. Avilo is not exactly a good "community figure."


Yea because he's any worse than certain players on ROOT's roster, current and former...

The foreign scene is hilarious in it's resemblance of a high school community. Popularity goes much farther than actual achievement or skill. I'm pretty ambivalent towards Avilo but if FXO picks up those players and decides to leave out Avilo because of popular sentiment, that's a joke. But I guess that's where the foreign scene has been gravitating towards anyways.

Like who... rotterdam? I'd say the rest of root lineup can pound him into the ground. Masa, tod, vibe, major, slush, tt1... so besides cheesy fitzyhere, and maybe rotterdam because he isn't 100% dedicated to playing please explain who he is better than in the actual PLAYING root line up...

Good job to rest of lgn guys, good luck in fxo.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16715 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 01:04:01
October 29 2012 00:59 GMT
#155
On October 29 2012 04:18 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 13:18 FXOUnstable wrote:
On October 28 2012 13:14 Gamegene wrote:
o.o so does this mean FXO.Avilo..?

Pretty cool to see FXOpen now owning 3 fully fledged teams in the three major SC2 continents :D


Avilo's position on the team has not been fully decided, It is still being discussed internally

Please pick up Avilo, as outspoken as he may be, he has a lot of loyal fans and a lot of potential.

Avilo kicks ass


"Avilo kicks ass" really says nothing.

The guy has had "potential" for more than 2.5 years and produced little in the way of competitive event results at hte top level of the game.
He is petty and confrontational over silly issues.

If you want to protect the "FXOpen" brand then I'd recommend that this guy be given the freedom to "realize his potential" on another team.

On October 29 2012 07:58 LgNkarmy wrote:
Once again thanks for all the supportive comments!


FXOpen is an extremely strong brand.
Protecting its image will be a major part of your job.
Good Luck in your future work with a really cool team!

On October 29 2012 07:56 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 07:29 hunts wrote:
On October 29 2012 04:25 U_G_L_Y wrote:
On October 28 2012 14:07 ROOTCatZ wrote:
FXOAvilo, he's not the hero we need right now but, he's the hero... wait, nope. neither apply.

Why have you become such a hateful malicious person?

Grow up and stop being a dick. Your team deserves more professional behavior.


I don't like catz in any way shape or form, but he is right with that one. Avilo is not exactly a good "community figure."


Yea because he's any worse than certain players on ROOT's roster, current and former...

The foreign scene is hilarious in it's resemblance of a high school community. Popularity goes much farther than actual achievement or skill. I'm pretty ambivalent towards Avilo but if FXO picks up those players and decides to leave out Avilo because of popular sentiment, that's a joke. But I guess that's where the foreign scene has been gravitating towards anyways.


i think they are just trying to protect their brand.
The last thing they need is controversy from an LGN team member who will add almost nothing to their brand on an international level.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
October 29 2012 01:02 GMT
#156
picking up players like karmy and power but not avilo? I guess they just don't like his personality/reputation.
savior did nothing wrong
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 29 2012 01:07 GMT
#157
On October 29 2012 10:02 EleanorRIgby wrote:
picking up players like karmy and power but not avilo? I guess they just don't like his personality/reputation.

it wasn't the players that were the main point of their acquisition, but the organisation :D
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
October 29 2012 01:08 GMT
#158
On October 29 2012 09:58 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 07:56 SupLilSon wrote:
On October 29 2012 07:29 hunts wrote:
On October 29 2012 04:25 U_G_L_Y wrote:
On October 28 2012 14:07 ROOTCatZ wrote:
FXOAvilo, he's not the hero we need right now but, he's the hero... wait, nope. neither apply.

Why have you become such a hateful malicious person?

Grow up and stop being a dick. Your team deserves more professional behavior.


I don't like catz in any way shape or form, but he is right with that one. Avilo is not exactly a good "community figure."


Yea because he's any worse than certain players on ROOT's roster, current and former...

The foreign scene is hilarious in it's resemblance of a high school community. Popularity goes much farther than actual achievement or skill. I'm pretty ambivalent towards Avilo but if FXO picks up those players and decides to leave out Avilo because of popular sentiment, that's a joke. But I guess that's where the foreign scene has been gravitating towards anyways.

Like who... rotterdam? I'd say the rest of root lineup can pound him into the ground. Masa, tod, vibe, major, slush, tt1... so besides cheesy fitzyhere, and maybe rotterdam because he isn't 100% dedicated to playing please explain who he is better than in the actual PLAYING root line up...

Good job to rest of lgn guys, good luck in fxo.


I meant in terms of being a 'good "community figure"'. Not in terms of game skill. Destiny for example, but it's not limited to just him.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 29 2012 01:14 GMT
#159
On October 29 2012 09:59 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 04:18 U_G_L_Y wrote:
On October 28 2012 13:18 FXOUnstable wrote:
On October 28 2012 13:14 Gamegene wrote:
o.o so does this mean FXO.Avilo..?

Pretty cool to see FXOpen now owning 3 fully fledged teams in the three major SC2 continents :D


Avilo's position on the team has not been fully decided, It is still being discussed internally

Please pick up Avilo, as outspoken as he may be, he has a lot of loyal fans and a lot of potential.

Avilo kicks ass


"Avilo kicks ass" really says nothing.

The guy has had "potential" for more than 2.5 years and produced little in the way of competitive event results at hte top level of the game.
He is petty and confrontational over silly issues.

If you want to protect the "FXOpen" brand then I'd recommend that this guy be given the freedom to "realize his potential" on another team.

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 07:58 LgNkarmy wrote:
Once again thanks for all the supportive comments!


FXOpen is an extremely strong brand.
Protecting its image will be a major part of your job.
Good Luck in your future work with a really cool team!

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 07:56 SupLilSon wrote:
On October 29 2012 07:29 hunts wrote:
On October 29 2012 04:25 U_G_L_Y wrote:
On October 28 2012 14:07 ROOTCatZ wrote:
FXOAvilo, he's not the hero we need right now but, he's the hero... wait, nope. neither apply.

Why have you become such a hateful malicious person?

Grow up and stop being a dick. Your team deserves more professional behavior.


I don't like catz in any way shape or form, but he is right with that one. Avilo is not exactly a good "community figure."


Yea because he's any worse than certain players on ROOT's roster, current and former...

The foreign scene is hilarious in it's resemblance of a high school community. Popularity goes much farther than actual achievement or skill. I'm pretty ambivalent towards Avilo but if FXO picks up those players and decides to leave out Avilo because of popular sentiment, that's a joke. But I guess that's where the foreign scene has been gravitating towards anyways.


i think they are just trying to protect their brand.
The last thing they need is controversy from an LGN team member who will add almost nothing to their brand on an international level.


"protect" "brand"
Hey! How you doin'?
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 29 2012 01:21 GMT
#160
Cool news, good for FXO. Best of luck to all!
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