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SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
October 29 2012 19:11 GMT
#221
On October 30 2012 02:37 Zennith wrote:
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On October 29 2012 16:25 LgNTheoRy wrote:
On October 29 2012 16:24 Zennith wrote:
On October 29 2012 16:17 MonkSEA wrote:
On October 29 2012 16:00 Zennith wrote:
On October 29 2012 15:58 LgNkarmy wrote:
On October 29 2012 15:52 chadissilent wrote:
On October 29 2012 15:39 LgNkarmy wrote:
On October 29 2012 15:22 Zennith wrote:
How does Karmy end up on teams? He's literally mid-masters at best.

Sorry miss read what you said. Some luck, some hard work and dedication.

...and plenty of bm?

I'm sorry if I ever offended you, but I don't remember using "plenty of BM"



Really? I can recall several instances.


Is this jealousy beaming through your posts?



No, not really. Because he's wasting his time - he'll never be a successful pro, as he's just not good enough. I'm not either, but I at least don't waste my time. I just don't understand why teams have a guy like him on their roster when he brings nothing to the table.


I don't think it's possible for karmy to bm. Also if you are taczennith you wanted to tryout for LgN in the past so apparently you did want to waste your time.



Lol good lord. That again? That's actually when Karmy bmd me for days - and I didn't even try out, nor did I decide I wanted to - I simply asked about it, since ButteryGreg had talked to me once about it a month or so prior. And Karmy also seems to be on two teams at once sometimes, since his smurf plays in team wars for xO.

Show nested quote +


don't judge other people for choosing a specific path in their life, if that's what he wants to do, despite the odds stacked against him, so be it. if he crashes and burns, at least he can take comfort knowing he had no regrets in what he decided.




And fair enough. I guess that's his right. But I don't understand the value for a team like FXO in picking up a player who hasn't shown any results at all on the NA ladder or in team leagues - and he even went to the ministry of win and didn't improve.


You really are coming across like you have some other reason besides BM for your personal vendetta against karmy.
Mozzery
Profile Joined January 2012
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 20:47:33
October 29 2012 20:40 GMT
#222
Carrying thread back to the topic of FXO.[image loading]

Congratulations on expanding fxo, I have finally decided to look into your product and was surprised to find out it was a foreign exchange trading company. I've graduated with a degree in finance, (hough I prefer dealing with single business at a time finance as opposed to macroeconomic factors of entire countries that currency trading tends to encourage one to think in terms of, as I'm smart enough to know I'm not THAT smart that I can predict currency value expect in insanely obvious situations, (Like when Malaysia took the country off of being linked to the dollar, Soros gets villified/credit for profiting off of it but every smart person in finance could see that coming). I'm going to probably make a free demo account because I like the team

Proponent of team liquid word filtering imbalanced to "at an unacceptable level of racial balance/game design"
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
October 29 2012 20:42 GMT
#223
karmy is one of the nicest people ive met on sc2. i find it extremely hard to believe that he bm'ed. gtfo.
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
October 29 2012 20:51 GMT
#224
On October 30 2012 05:42 LgNKane wrote:
karmy is one of the nicest people ive met on sc2. i find it extremely hard to believe that he bm'ed. gtfo.



Yeah, I just like to make things up.


And if Karmy wasn't on xO, why was he playing in xO in house tournaments? He was even officially on the B team for a while, as per posts on the xO forums. And this was around the same time he played against us for LgN in the sc2clans tournament. Just saying.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 29 2012 21:08 GMT
#225
So what's going to be the policy on team league? Can FXO.NA come out for FXO or is it like FXO.CIS and they have to go it alone.
Glorious SEA doto
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
October 29 2012 21:14 GMT
#226
On October 30 2012 05:42 LgNKane wrote:
karmy is one of the nicest people ive met on sc2. i find it extremely hard to believe that he bm'ed. gtfo.


You are one of the absolute most trash posters I have recently seen who has not yet been 90 day'd or permed. I hope you won't be plaguing one of my favourite teams, even as a mere NA division affiliate.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
-TGO-
Profile Joined October 2012
United States156 Posts
October 29 2012 21:22 GMT
#227
Guys, please.

Both Kane and Karmy are nice. Atleast in my experience.

Karmy has always been open to giving me suggestions and others suggestions.

And Kane just seems nice over all on his stream. I am not sure outside of stream though.
i crash camel into bridg i no care i love it
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
October 29 2012 21:39 GMT
#228
On October 30 2012 06:22 -TGO- wrote:
Guys, please.

Both Kane and Karmy are nice. Atleast in my experience.

Karmy has always been open to giving me suggestions and others suggestions.

And Kane just seems nice over all on his stream. I am not sure outside of stream though.



Does being nice warrant a spot on a pro team?

User was warned for this post
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
October 29 2012 21:59 GMT
#229
Haha I can't believe the path this thread took - Karmy, regardless of his skill level, is definitely not bm and is a nice guy. I think a lot of people are just jealous :/
I <3 StarCraft.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 29 2012 22:01 GMT
#230
On October 30 2012 06:39 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 06:22 -TGO- wrote:
Guys, please.

Both Kane and Karmy are nice. Atleast in my experience.

Karmy has always been open to giving me suggestions and others suggestions.

And Kane just seems nice over all on his stream. I am not sure outside of stream though.



Does being nice warrant a spot on a pro team?

well, not being nice doesn't warrant being kicked off either lol
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
October 29 2012 22:24 GMT
#231
On October 30 2012 07:01 opterown wrote:
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On October 30 2012 06:39 Zennith wrote:
On October 30 2012 06:22 -TGO- wrote:
Guys, please.

Both Kane and Karmy are nice. Atleast in my experience.

Karmy has always been open to giving me suggestions and others suggestions.

And Kane just seems nice over all on his stream. I am not sure outside of stream though.



Does being nice warrant a spot on a pro team?

well, not being nice doesn't warrant being kicked off either lol


No but according to Zennith, he isn't good enough to be on the team. I don't have an opinion, don't even know who he is... Just pointing that out.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
PowerDes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States520 Posts
October 29 2012 22:28 GMT
#232
On October 28 2012 13:28 Gamegene wrote:
ooo. i AuRora. I remember watching her stream like a year ago. She's actually pretty decent o:

shes even better now
twitch.tv/PowerDes
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
October 29 2012 22:33 GMT
#233
Twitter posts like this are especially confusing:

Matthew Munholland ‏@FXOkaRmy:

I'm officially apart of @xO_gaming.


So... is he xO or FXO?
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
Darigaz(L)
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States106 Posts
October 29 2012 22:36 GMT
#234
Just to clarify, Karmy primary acts as a coach/ practice coordinator for FXO.NA and if you look on our roster on teamfxo.com that is specified. As for Kane, he isnt on the team, again look at the roster on the website.

Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 23:51:33
October 29 2012 23:50 GMT
#235
On October 30 2012 06:39 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 06:22 -TGO- wrote:
Guys, please.

Both Kane and Karmy are nice. Atleast in my experience.

Karmy has always been open to giving me suggestions and others suggestions.

And Kane just seems nice over all on his stream. I am not sure outside of stream though.



Does being nice warrant a spot on a pro team?

On October 30 2012 05:51 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 05:42 LgNKane wrote:
karmy is one of the nicest people ive met on sc2. i find it extremely hard to believe that he bm'ed. gtfo.



Yeah, I just like to make things up.


And if Karmy wasn't on xO, why was he playing in xO in house tournaments? He was even officially on the B team for a while, as per posts on the xO forums. And this was around the same time he played against us for LgN in the sc2clans tournament. Just saying.


I don't know what you have against Karmy, but you need to just chill out. You keep insisting that he is BM while giving nothing more than your word. Do you honestly expect us to believe some random person on TL when all they're giving is a sarcastic remark about how you wouldn't make it up? Seriously, I'm not sure why the concept of Karmy wearing and FXO tag bothers you so much, but you're just going to have to get over it.
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
October 29 2012 23:58 GMT
#236
On October 30 2012 08:50 Raelcun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 06:39 Zennith wrote:
On October 30 2012 06:22 -TGO- wrote:
Guys, please.

Both Kane and Karmy are nice. Atleast in my experience.

Karmy has always been open to giving me suggestions and others suggestions.

And Kane just seems nice over all on his stream. I am not sure outside of stream though.



Does being nice warrant a spot on a pro team?

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 05:51 Zennith wrote:
On October 30 2012 05:42 LgNKane wrote:
karmy is one of the nicest people ive met on sc2. i find it extremely hard to believe that he bm'ed. gtfo.



Yeah, I just like to make things up.


And if Karmy wasn't on xO, why was he playing in xO in house tournaments? He was even officially on the B team for a while, as per posts on the xO forums. And this was around the same time he played against us for LgN in the sc2clans tournament. Just saying.


I don't know what you have against Karmy, but you need to just chill out. You keep insisting that he is BM while giving nothing more than your word. Do you honestly expect us to believe some random person on TL when all they're giving is a sarcastic remark about how you wouldn't make it up? Seriously, I'm not sure why the concept of Karmy wearing and FXO tag bothers you so much, but you're just going to have to get over it.




Honestly, the BM is irrelevant. I just don't see why he's on two teams at once.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
October 30 2012 01:48 GMT
#237
On October 30 2012 01:10 SeeKeR wrote:
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On October 29 2012 23:00 YoucriedWolf wrote:
Strange, feels more like charity than business. Not a typical Boss move.
But ofc I have no idea about the underlying details.

Charity? What the f*ck? As you just stated yourself, you don't know the underlying details. Please don't assume anything.


I did none of the kind, I'm just speculating freely with what little information I have. NA is in dire need of help because they are getting none. I trust boss to be a sensible person in financial matters, surely there is more to this than what my tiny mind can comprehend and I am happy to have it as such.
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
October 30 2012 01:48 GMT
#238
On October 29 2012 10:51 U_G_L_Y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 09:59 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On October 29 2012 04:18 U_G_L_Y wrote:
On October 28 2012 13:18 FXOUnstable wrote:
On October 28 2012 13:14 Gamegene wrote:
o.o so does this mean FXO.Avilo..?

Pretty cool to see FXOpen now owning 3 fully fledged teams in the three major SC2 continents :D


Avilo's position on the team has not been fully decided, It is still being discussed internally

Please pick up Avilo, as outspoken as he may be, he has a lot of loyal fans and a lot of potential.

Avilo kicks ass


"Avilo kicks ass" really says nothing.

The guy has had "potential" for more than 2.5 years and produced little in the way of competitive event results at hte top level of the game.
He is petty and confrontational over silly issues.

If you want to protect the "FXOpen" brand then I'd recommend that this guy be given the freedom to "realize his potential" on another team.

On October 29 2012 07:58 LgNkarmy wrote:
Once again thanks for all the supportive comments!


FXOpen is an extremely strong brand.
Protecting its image will be a major part of your job.
Good Luck in your future work with a really cool team!

On October 29 2012 07:56 SupLilSon wrote:
On October 29 2012 07:29 hunts wrote:
On October 29 2012 04:25 U_G_L_Y wrote:
On October 28 2012 14:07 ROOTCatZ wrote:
FXOAvilo, he's not the hero we need right now but, he's the hero... wait, nope. neither apply.

Why have you become such a hateful malicious person?

Grow up and stop being a dick. Your team deserves more professional behavior.


I don't like catz in any way shape or form, but he is right with that one. Avilo is not exactly a good "community figure."


Yea because he's any worse than certain players on ROOT's roster, current and former...

The foreign scene is hilarious in it's resemblance of a high school community. Popularity goes much farther than actual achievement or skill. I'm pretty ambivalent towards Avilo but if FXO picks up those players and decides to leave out Avilo because of popular sentiment, that's a joke. But I guess that's where the foreign scene has been gravitating towards anyways.


i think they are just trying to protect their brand.
The last thing they need is controversy from an LGN team member who will add almost nothing to their brand on an international level.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/FXOpen_e-Sports#FXOpen_North_America
Compare their North American squad's achievements against Avilo's. He's done well at MLGs, won Playhems and DC LANs. He is better than most if not all of them.

Additionally, for team leagues, he doesn't lose TvT. He beats Illusion most of the time. Nobody is going to say "I'm not opening a forex account with you guys because that guy who thinks infestors are imbalanced has FXO before his name."

Seriously; what are you talking about?

last time i played the guy tvt was like a year ago and he doesnt even play this game anymore because "terran sucks" in his words
www.twitter.com/rootillusion & www.facebook.com/illusionsc2
Hoodlum
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States350 Posts
October 30 2012 01:55 GMT
#239
On October 30 2012 07:33 Zennith wrote:
Twitter posts like this are especially confusing:

Show nested quote +
Matthew Munholland ‏@FXOkaRmy:

I'm officially apart of @xO_gaming.


So... is he xO or FXO?


Oh my god you care so much about karmy do you have a crush? When Legion disbanded he joined xO gaming because i've known him since release. I was excited to have him on xO he was gonna help me manage the team since again I've known him forever, I trust him, and hes one of the most intelligent people I have met in this community unlike some other people... Unfortunately if you look at his twitter with your fantastic detective work you would realize his stay with us was very short as he was offered this fantastic opportunity with FXO so like any sane person he decided he would go that route again.

Seriously kid do you have nothing better to do??
xO gaming owner
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37108 Posts
October 30 2012 02:05 GMT
#240
T-T

Every time I see this thread get bumped I get excited.

And then that excitement gets shattered in to a million pieces because of all the negativity...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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