EPTWell now it seems like JookTo also leaves ApeX
VINES, Inca, TOP and JookTo leave ApeX
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Peski
Denmark51 Posts
Well now it seems like JookTo also leaves ApeX
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FrostedMiniWheats
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hope they don't go to LoL too | ||
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digmouse
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Finnz
United Kingdom260 Posts
I did not want to say anything when it was announced that Apex had signed all these incredibly talented koreans since i thought maybe they had changed but clearly they are still up to there same lies and tricks. I feel sorry for the players and i hope they can get picked up by a team/org that actually delivers what they promise. | ||
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SfynX
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Fueled
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Hopefully they can find a team that's able to send them to tournaments. | ||
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effecto
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SupLilSon
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TheSwedishFan
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storywriter
Australia528 Posts
On October 25 2012 22:48 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: D; hope they don't go to LoL too I can't see Top going to a MOBA game with his control so at least he's safe. | ||
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Digitalis
United States1043 Posts
r/starcraft is going to have a field day | ||
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nihlon
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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IFC
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 25 2012 23:06 storywriter wrote: I can't see Top going to a MOBA game with his control so at least he's safe. He'd be the best carry ever until team fights break out. | ||
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Peski
Denmark51 Posts
On October 25 2012 22:51 Weavel wrote: I wonder why Morrow and jookto stayed. Yeah I do to! | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Apex is at the top of the list for joke of the year now :D | ||
lichter
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NuclearJudas
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
I hope they find a good home soon though. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
srsly, kids these days think it's easy to do esport. A cool logo, cool name, some skype exchanges, and you get yourself an esport organization | ||
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Daft Commander
United States79 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
Maybe they're the ones that did get paid? Idk... | ||
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mememolly
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KarlKaliente
United States434 Posts
On October 25 2012 23:17 Daft Commander wrote: Apex just missed their chance to be one of the biggest team in the scene, they such a good roster and i have never seen an oGs player ever disappoint. They had a good roster but unfortunately you need to pay or provide some sort of compensation to your players to be an actual team. | ||
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
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cpc
Australia126 Posts
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On October 25 2012 23:10 docvoc wrote: Why is JookTo staying... JookTo is going to a prolonged identity and existential crisis ever since Luvsic changed his name to J, to both usurp the letter for all of Zergkind. He just needs to be around people for the time being, hopefully not imaginary. Whether he is on an actual professional team is of lesser importance. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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MogA
Switzerland43 Posts
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DOUDOU
Wales2940 Posts
On October 25 2012 22:51 Weavel wrote: I wonder why Morrow and jookto stayed. probably harder for them to find a new team what is happening for vines inca and top now? where are they even living? | ||
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sOOnMaNiAc
Germany57 Posts
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AyaaLa
Spain629 Posts
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Acronysis
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creamyturtle
United States487 Posts
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Shkudde
Netherlands709 Posts
On October 25 2012 23:45 AyaaLa wrote: Is this the dude that is scamming them? What a looser. https://www.facebook.com/joachim.rittfeldthofvenschiold I don't know if he is responsible for the team as a whole or not, but he definitely is the guy that is on the announcement-poster slightly too prominently. | ||
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-BCNPalomino-
United States45 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
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bsdaemon
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On October 26 2012 00:10 BisuDagger wrote: Inca will probably find a team quick. Which is good because I'm a fan. Eh idk what makes you so sure, Genius couldn't even find a team and had to settle for a teaming disbanding. | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
I hate seeing players get screwed over by unlegit teams. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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nooboon
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chesshaha
United States1117 Posts
But I'll be waiting for a press release from Apex before making a conclusion. | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
EDIT: I wonder what MorroW is going to do? | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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pt
United States813 Posts
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
btw Apex manager hofwen seems to manage mindfreak as well | ||
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Sporadic44
United States533 Posts
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NotoriousBig
Germany301 Posts
they should join an established team right now. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
Yeah i also wonder why Morrow and jookto stayed in the team! | ||
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vAtAZz
France250 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
On October 26 2012 01:13 vAtAZz wrote: WHAT? They just joined not more than 2 weeks ago... Yeah,the contract was most probably shit since they could leave this soon. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3683 Posts
I was really disturbed when they joined, I hate it when koreans join some shady team. They can't do much proper research given their english and being promised a salary and to travel the world when you get neither from almost any eSF team sure sounds great, just sucks when it's being offered by a team like ApeX that'll only disappoint and fuck over their players. If I'd win the lottery tomorrow I'd probably just fund oGs and get everyone back, such an amazing team and it really hurts me to see such amazing players be in a situation like that. | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
On October 25 2012 23:06 storywriter wrote: I can't see Top going to a MOBA game with his control so at least he's safe. I hope you'll be quoted into Pony Tales #7 with this one | ||
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nebula.
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.Wraath
United States262 Posts
Perhaps Prime/NSH will pick up one | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
wow.... just... wow.... | ||
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On October 25 2012 23:02 effecto wrote: wasnt apex supposed to be a super new solid serious team ? :/ always sad to see lack of professionalism in esport People said they were scammers from beginning ;o | ||
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Germany5224 Posts
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TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
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StarStruck
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Time to get rid of the trash. | ||
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
Thanks for nothing, apeX. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On October 26 2012 03:26 StarStruck wrote: Like the BBB I think teams should get certified and we should abolish the Fed and KeSPA alike (dreaming) and start a real organization where all the big players have a seat on the board. A certain criteria and standards would have to be met by each team as well if you want to be acknowledged as a Pro Team. Time to get rid of the trash. this... Sc2 needs some kind of NHLPA | ||
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
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Atrbyg
United States513 Posts
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On October 26 2012 01:01 pt wrote: wtf is the purpose of promising to send players to events then intentionally not following through? Idk man. I can't imagine what they hope to achieve with this? Seems just like a big waste of time for everyone - the owner, the management, the players and the community. Weird. | ||
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Arcanne
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MiQ
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GunPaladin
United States1205 Posts
On October 25 2012 23:54 Shkudde wrote: I don't know if he is responsible for the team as a whole or not, but he definitely is the guy that is on the announcement-poster slightly too prominently. According to his statements, he only did as he was told. The blame lies with upper management. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On October 26 2012 03:26 StarStruck wrote: Like the BBB I think teams should get certified and we should abolish the Fed and KeSPA alike (dreaming) and start a real organization where all the big players have a seat on the board. A certain criteria and standards would have to be met by each team as well if you want to be acknowledged as a Pro Team. Time to get rid of the trash. The only one that possibly has that power is Blizzard and i really doubt they would spend time on that. For such a system to work you need a shitload of money like KeSPA had/has. | ||
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Mystgun
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lookfirewood
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 Words about this when he'll wake up I suppse!  best Kim | ||
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snively
United States1159 Posts
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Golbat
United States499 Posts
On October 26 2012 06:00 Mystgun wrote: hilarious...didn't think a team with a name like "ApeX" would go very far anyway... That's a completely rational conclusion to come to. But this really sucks, I just want the ex-oGs guys to find a home where they can just play really good starcraft. | ||
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Hds
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Wounded31
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On October 26 2012 04:45 GunPaladin wrote: According to his statements, he only did as he was told. The blame lies with upper management. I told him to book the flights and hotels 2-3 weeks before the event and he said yes. He told me he would do it the next day then I asked the next day and he had procrastinated. Neither of them sound particularly responsible. You obviously don't do it the next day, but you also don't do it just two weeks in advance either. Even if they're signed recently (Oct 6.), it's not like they were contacted on Oct 5th so it should've been in the pipeline. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
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StarStruck
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On October 26 2012 04:52 Assirra wrote: The only one that possibly has that power is Blizzard and i really doubt they would spend time on that. For such a system to work you need a shitload of money like KeSPA had/has. Actually the biggest problem with such an undertaking is the fact the teams and players would have to agree to the terms. It's crossed my mind several times especially with all the lockouts over here in professional sports currently. Honestly we really do need more structure to make this practical and there would be a shitload of terms. I've already came up with several and I know there will a lot of people who wouldn't be too pleased with some of the conditions I've brainstormed, but are necessary to make this ship head in the right direction. Yeah good luck getting your final months pay bud. Not happening and it's pretty sad. I understand there are a lot of players on the fence when it comes to trying to make salaries, but you really have to know the team well and their reputation before joining. | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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Payson
United States394 Posts
Sad to see them leave so early, but ApeX shouldn't be a trusted organization in eSports. | ||
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
We need to take a lesson from the console gaming history that Apex has. | ||
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rkshox
Taiwan536 Posts
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
On October 25 2012 22:50 Shkudde wrote: No-one ever saw it coming... Said noone ever | ||
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Freezd
United States139 Posts
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
I jest edit: spelling | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
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kochanfe
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Wafflelisk
Canada1061 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
I was really expecting the former oGs players to find a home and not retire, but if this continues, they might have to retire from pro-gaming if they cannot find a team. | ||
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Greendotz
United Kingdom2053 Posts
On October 25 2012 23:26 DOUDOU wrote: probably harder for them to find a new team Morrow was never actually going to DreamHack anyway, so he probably won't leave until the next tournament Apex promises to send him to but actually doesn't. I guess since he hasn't been wronged yet he has nothing to loose by staying with them on the off-chance miracle that Apex actually becomes a legitimate organisation. Personally if it were me I still wouldn't stay. I wouldn't want anything to do with what is obviously some crazy megalomaniac's powertrip/attention parade. Seriously, the guy put his face right on the centre of the announcement poster, weirdo. | ||
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crbox
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On October 26 2012 08:08 crbox wrote: wtf I didn't follow the whole thing but who is left in Apex? Not much right? Jookto and Morrow | ||
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IFC
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
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Desiire
Australia191 Posts
Hopefully they can find home in a better team and continue to play SC2 | ||
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
but still 0 games played under the tag | ||
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ThomasjServo
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Lovedoll
Japan540 Posts
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Shadow_Dog
Canada427 Posts
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Pimpmuckl
Germany528 Posts
On October 25 2012 23:03 SupLilSon wrote: JooKto staying? lol... I guess he didn't get the Memo? Not surprised tbh Pretty sad, hope they find something good. | ||
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Archile
United States403 Posts
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FuGGu
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creamyturtle
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GrandMaster_07
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MrMotionPicture
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NoGasfOu
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
really wanna find out | ||
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Laneir
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
but I don't think anyone expected it too with the teams history. | ||
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
http://esfiworld.com/news/inca-top-vines-leave-apex-esports | ||
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creamyturtle
United States487 Posts
On October 26 2012 14:17 glzElectromaster wrote: ESFI has an interview with the former sc2 manager for apeX (the guy who tweeted) http://esfiworld.com/news/inca-top-vines-leave-apex-esports straight hilarity. "apex is an awesome organization" lol they don't even have a website does razer really sponsor these ppl??? | ||
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StarStruck
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On October 26 2012 14:27 creamyturtle wrote: straight hilarity. "apex is an awesome organization" lol they don't even have a website does razer really sponsor these ppl??? More like, "We use Razer gear." | ||
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ShotgunMike
Sweden241 Posts
On October 26 2012 07:24 AlternativeEgo wrote: The manager is also gone. Well, as of 20 hours ago he was still the manager (or thought he was): + Show Spoiler + Yes sir, I am manager of apeX. But what kind of manager can one be if it is impossible to book flights and one has no budget to work with. And then he talks down on the overall team manager in the interview... Hes probably fired without knowing it.. I'm thinking Apex might might just go down in history to be the team with the shortest lifespan ever.. | ||
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ANGELIAS1234
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Killmo
China82 Posts
On October 26 2012 16:06 TheRidd wrote: So this basically means MMA joins EG right ? No, MMA is deciding between EG and Axiom. ApeX was never part of the question. | ||
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Canada134 Posts
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TheRidd
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On October 26 2012 16:37 Killmo wrote: No, MMA is deciding between EG and Axiom. ApeX was never part of the question. Oh right, my mistake with all the a an x's. | ||
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IFC
Bosnia-Herzegovina67 Posts
On October 26 2012 09:10 Archile wrote: This is of course sad for the players, but actually HUGE publicity. With these players re-entering the free market, teams will take a look at them again. come say, 3 weeks ago, what team would look into buying these players over a more recently established korean? Yes, exactly sir. That's why we are looking for methods to bring some of these guys | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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MythZero
Korea (South)102 Posts
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
I leave apeX, don't get me wrong https://twitter.com/jookTo/status/261773216052289536 | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
Best of luck guys, and i hope this was a learning lesson. What about Morrow and Jookto ? Ah nm. | ||
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Neosyc
Denmark4 Posts
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blacksheepwall
China1530 Posts
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Shadow_Dog
Canada427 Posts
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HolydaKing
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Peski
Denmark51 Posts
On October 26 2012 20:48 Shadow_Dog wrote: Morrow will leave after he doesn't get his salary. U sure? any link? | ||
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Psi0nic
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TheRealNanMan
United States1471 Posts
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mastergriggy
United States1312 Posts
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
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MAAeThErOs
United States17 Posts
JookTo also said that the reason he left was that ApeX didn't keep a lot of their promises. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
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chadissilent
Canada1187 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On October 27 2012 00:27 L3g3nd_ wrote: i dont know why people trusted ApeX.. everyone knows they are full off shit First, some people didn't know their past... And second, you can give another chance for redemption. Seems they haven't catched the opportunity to clear their name... | ||
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GoodGameFil
Russian Federation23 Posts
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IHaveArms
United Kingdom42 Posts
On October 27 2012 01:46 GoodGameFil wrote: Team disbanded now Any proof here? On October 26 2012 23:30 ES.Genie wrote: fnatic or NSH should pick them up. Or maybe even axiom, so we would have another Korean team. I have a feeling that Fnatic would pick up maybe Vines because they're lacking on the Protoss front, NSH seems to me like they're gonna break up soon. Axiom would make sense. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
So yeah.. the team's pretty much inexistant | ||
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Greendotz
United Kingdom2053 Posts
On October 27 2012 01:56 Noocta wrote: MorroW said on his stream he's not leaving just to see if the paid check come at the end of the month. So yeah.. the team's pretty much inexistant Sounds like whether he get's his salary or not he's going to leave regardless. Good for him, sucks that it's quite probably he wont see a dime of that salary though | ||
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GoodGameFil
Russian Federation23 Posts
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KillAudio
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What a fucking joke team. The people who handled this team should be banned from esports, seriously. | ||
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DMXD
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DinosaurJones
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TsGBruzze
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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creamyturtle
United States487 Posts
after some clever detective work, Hofven has released the name of his "boss" that was supposedly in charge of this fiasco. without further ado: Michael Stücher | ||
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leveller
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mastergriggy
United States1312 Posts
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davidohx
United States114 Posts
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
More TL readers becoming LoL fans nowadays? | ||
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iLevitate
United States225 Posts
On October 27 2012 06:50 davidohx wrote: what a damn shame wish they actually showed up in tourney at least once~ | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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lightrise
United States1355 Posts
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On October 25 2012 23:10 shid0x wrote: Ahah i think everyone saw it coming^^ Apex is at the top of the list for joke of the year now :D I dont know, I think Eclypsia still holds that posistion after all that they've done this year so far. Though this was a forgone conclusion after the DH drama an such so im not really shocked :O | ||
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FnaticNaama
Finland120 Posts
or are the owners just that delusional to think they would be able to send the players to places even when they dont have the resources available | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On October 28 2012 00:29 Catatonic wrote: I dont know, I think Eclypsia still holds that posistion after all that they've done this year so far. Though this was a forgone conclusion after the DH drama an such so im not really shocked :O What did Eclypsia do to earn that spot? I know about the April's fool, meme contest and players leaving due to "different opinion about korea", but that's hardly a bigger joke than this three-week-team. Or Blight for that matter. | ||
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garg
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On October 28 2012 00:34 FnaticNaama wrote: I dont even understand how do they gain from this? Do the owners get some kind of freaky satisfaction from doing this to the players or whats their agenda. or are the owners just that delusional to think they would be able to send the players to places even when they dont have the resources available Some teams might try to use hype from big pickups to try for new sponsors/money. If none comes in they can just dump the roster, free publicity. | ||
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