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emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
October 24 2012 01:49 GMT
#181
On October 24 2012 10:18 Champi wrote:
Looking forward to watching the KeSpa players and the Aussie invasion


yeah can't wait to see how the invidia guys go
Grubby - SaSe - Oz - Hero
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
October 24 2012 02:01 GMT
#182
BOMBER :D <3. He'll easily come out no#1 in his group.
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
October 24 2012 02:10 GMT
#183
wow he should play mech more often. That was really onesided. ^_^
Broodwar for life!
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
October 24 2012 02:42 GMT
#184
On October 24 2012 08:51 silent_owl wrote:
I think Scarlett is a great player and I think she has an off-chance but really? Favor her against the likes of Bomber and a Kespa pro? And really, if she gets out of her group, just because she beat Hero in an ONLINE tournament, people think she's somehow favored against him? She CAN do it though.

I just can't wait for this number of Koreans to go to DH's so that NightEnd can shut up about how he feels foreigners are just as good as Koreans. DH stopped inviting GSL champs after MC during his absolute prime (although correct me if I'm wrong). It may never happen though and EU may have delusions of grandeur just because one of them (out of dozens) manages to pick off a Korean or two per DH.

Anyway, sorry about the derail. It would be exciting to see a Kespa pro suddenly take this from an eSF player. I wouldn't mind seeing Life win as well. That kid is a beast.

EDIT: Just noticed Grubby is playing. I'm rooting for him in my heart but in my head, I don't know what kind of chance he has.


You would think after watching Koreans dominate since the game came out, extending their lead, then adding their entire BW KeSPA pros would educate these ignoramus.

Just let Koreans humiliate foreigners in major tournaments repeatedly, they will come back more bloated ego than ever after one of them beats a Korean 1 out of 10000 matches.

Other than Stephano and Naniwa no foreigner has consistent winning performances against Koreans.

Seriously, NightEnd saying foreigners are just as good as Koreans is the biggest joke ever. They had 3 Code S/A tweeners in their tournament and all of them made it out of their group stages. Couple DHs ago MC and Mvp were casting and MC was just laughing and ridiculing how terrible foreigner games were to them. The gap has only gotten bigger with KeSPA players coming into the mix, disagree with it all you want at the end of the day Koreans will dominate and you will feel silly for even thinking there was any hope for foreigners to put up results.

Just look at the MvP invite results:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational/Regular_Season
Can you smell the ddong?
BigFoig
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada52 Posts
October 24 2012 03:04 GMT
#185
On October 24 2012 02:43 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 02:28 Klondikebar wrote:
On October 24 2012 02:19 zumpy wrote:
woo scarlet! time to whoop on some koreans!


She melted faces to get there with some obscene number of games and wins. Her group also looks very manageable. Given how hard she works and how much she studies, I think she'll just ruin that group.


Yeah I'm sure she will take the group off of a KeSPA player, 4 code S/A players, and 2 open seed players who are most likely going to be 2 code S/A players...

Her play is so innovating with groundbreaking NA ladder play that Koreans just cannot handle it.
I have no doubt that she will RUIN Soulkey, Flash, soO, or hyvaa. They are only crushing through the MvP invite and demolished WCS Asia.
Then wreck through Bomber and Heart. They both only have a MLG championship and 2 semi final appearances respectively.
I don't even know why First or Daisy shows up against her,

KeSPA players are shaking in their boots, trying not to draw Group D.


No one needs your sarcasm, its really annoying and frustrating to see a hater. Please, if you don't have anything better to say just be quiet.,
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 03:19:40
October 24 2012 03:18 GMT
#186
People is saying Group C is the group of Death.

But Life is gonna smashed that group ezpz.

Zs and Ts are just food for Life.
Play your best
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
October 24 2012 03:20 GMT
#187
On October 24 2012 12:04 BigFoig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 02:43 Cattlecruiser wrote:
On October 24 2012 02:28 Klondikebar wrote:
On October 24 2012 02:19 zumpy wrote:
woo scarlet! time to whoop on some koreans!


She melted faces to get there with some obscene number of games and wins. Her group also looks very manageable. Given how hard she works and how much she studies, I think she'll just ruin that group.


Yeah I'm sure she will take the group off of a KeSPA player, 4 code S/A players, and 2 open seed players who are most likely going to be 2 code S/A players...

Her play is so innovating with groundbreaking NA ladder play that Koreans just cannot handle it.
I have no doubt that she will RUIN Soulkey, Flash, soO, or hyvaa. They are only crushing through the MvP invite and demolished WCS Asia.
Then wreck through Bomber and Heart. They both only have a MLG championship and 2 semi final appearances respectively.
I don't even know why First or Daisy shows up against her,

KeSPA players are shaking in their boots, trying not to draw Group D.


No one needs your sarcasm, its really annoying and frustrating to see a hater. Please, if you don't have anything better to say just be quiet.,

What's annoying and frustrating about it? He was merely stating what should be obvious from any objective viewpoint. Especially when someone describes an outcome as "ruining" ... Which would require an upset to take place for Scarlett to win at all.

Obviously, scarlett is very good at this game. However, being one of the top foreigners does nothing unless you can beat the top koreans too.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 03:31:03
October 24 2012 03:29 GMT
#188
Lol half of C would take first place in every other group, wtf

On October 24 2012 12:18 FakeDeath wrote:
People is saying Group C is the group of Death.

But Life is gonna smashed that group ezpz.

Zs and Ts are just food for Life.

Group of death != close group

it = group where normal players go to die

ie. it's the scariest group of death ever rofl

poor Major
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
xHQx
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation601 Posts
October 24 2012 03:39 GMT
#189
Flash top1
not sure about anything else
are you evolving?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26028 Posts
October 24 2012 03:40 GMT
#190
Eugh, wish Scarlett fanboys would shut up with their ridiculous hyperbole. I want her to do well, or at least show us for the first time in a stacked field what she's capable of, but people have to post such nonsense that it really makes me want her to lose.

Quite like the lineup of this MLG, also really looking forward to the return of Nani, angry and ready to go.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
RicochetSEA
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia31 Posts
October 24 2012 03:45 GMT
#191
Bomber Fighting!
templar631
Profile Joined September 2012
United States6 Posts
October 24 2012 05:15 GMT
#192
gogogo naniwa <3
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
October 24 2012 05:30 GMT
#193
Hope Flash can bring my sc2 passion back so I can hop on this bandwagon.
Mmm, what to watch.
mr.grimm
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden63 Posts
October 24 2012 05:51 GMT
#194
This is going to be so fucking good.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
October 24 2012 06:10 GMT
#195
How did group B end up so weak compared to the others...
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
October 24 2012 06:36 GMT
#196
Grubby actually has a pretty good shot at this, his group consists of alot of protosses, something hes pretty comfortable with.
KCCO!
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 07:36:08
October 24 2012 07:34 GMT
#197
On October 24 2012 11:42 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 08:51 silent_owl wrote:
I think Scarlett is a great player and I think she has an off-chance but really? Favor her against the likes of Bomber and a Kespa pro? And really, if she gets out of her group, just because she beat Hero in an ONLINE tournament, people think she's somehow favored against him? She CAN do it though.

I just can't wait for this number of Koreans to go to DH's so that NightEnd can shut up about how he feels foreigners are just as good as Koreans. DH stopped inviting GSL champs after MC during his absolute prime (although correct me if I'm wrong). It may never happen though and EU may have delusions of grandeur just because one of them (out of dozens) manages to pick off a Korean or two per DH.

Anyway, sorry about the derail. It would be exciting to see a Kespa pro suddenly take this from an eSF player. I wouldn't mind seeing Life win as well. That kid is a beast.

EDIT: Just noticed Grubby is playing. I'm rooting for him in my heart but in my head, I don't know what kind of chance he has.


You would think after watching Koreans dominate since the game came out, extending their lead, then adding their entire BW KeSPA pros would educate these ignoramus.

Just let Koreans humiliate foreigners in major tournaments repeatedly, they will come back more bloated ego than ever after one of them beats a Korean 1 out of 10000 matches.

Other than Stephano and Naniwa no foreigner has consistent winning performances against Koreans.

Seriously, NightEnd saying foreigners are just as good as Koreans is the biggest joke ever. They had 3 Code S/A tweeners in their tournament and all of them made it out of their group stages. Couple DHs ago MC and Mvp were casting and MC was just laughing and ridiculing how terrible foreigner games were to them. The gap has only gotten bigger with KeSPA players coming into the mix, disagree with it all you want at the end of the day Koreans will dominate and you will feel silly for even thinking there was any hope for foreigners to put up results.

Just look at the MvP invite results:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational/Regular_Season
Can you smell the ddong?


Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? Haha. Your points agree with mine but you use the word, "you", in reference to the people who think foreigners are as good as Koreans (a group which does not include me). It's a little confusing. Lol.

Anyway, I agree with you though. Although, I believe that foreigners can catch up provided they structure their practice regimes the same way as the Kespa (yes, Kespa) teams. As of now, though, come on, NightEnd is full of EU just because he did some laddering in KR for a bit.

On the subject of this MLG, I wonder if more Kespa pros will be competing via the Open Bracket.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
rw_Wedge
Profile Joined October 2012
United States53 Posts
October 24 2012 08:09 GMT
#198
Everyone who thinks Scarlett has a chance is underestimating the difficulty of that group.
Heart made the Code S Ro. of 16 in GSL Season 4, and finished 3rd at both the Winter Championships and Spring Arena 1.
First just got 2nd at the Summer Championships and tied for 3rd/4th in the Summer Arena.
Daisy didn't drop a set to a Zerg player in either the Summer Arena or the Summer Championships.
Bomber is Bomber, he could beat literally anyone on the right day (She also plays him first).
soO, Flash, Soulkey, or hyvaa. Either Flash or a kespa ZvZ, neither of those look too promising to me.
Add into that mess any number of Open Bracket players and I see very little chance for Scarlett.
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
October 24 2012 08:35 GMT
#199
On October 24 2012 02:28 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 02:19 zumpy wrote:
woo scarlet! time to whoop on some koreans!


She melted faces to get there with some obscene number of games and wins. Her group also looks very manageable. Given how hard she works and how much she studies, I think she'll just ruin that group.


This has to be one of the most crazy predictions I have ever read Some kind of record? (no offence though, nothing wrong with being a fan)

Heart, First, Daisy, Bomber, Scarlett, Proleague Seed, 2x open bracket? This group is pretty scary.

If you really are her fan be happy if she does well in any way possible, like edging out a few wins.

In other news Life is going down.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 08:59:53
October 24 2012 08:58 GMT
#200
Anybody know how seeding works for OWB5? Trying to figure out whether my team mate mOOnGLaDe would be seeded or not (he came 5th/6th in the NA Invite-Only qualifier).
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