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Crank and MMA's accounts regarding SlayerS - Page 28
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tMomiji
United States1115 Posts
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Swords
6038 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:45 Surriel wrote: From what Ive heard, Slayers originally started as a group of people for Boxer to practice with when he started with SC2, and eventually it become a team. I dont think Boxer originally wanted to set out to make an SC2 team but it just so happened that would be the next logical step and why not? Now keep that in mind, and that the team is run by boxer and Jessica. They had some sponsors but apparently Boxer invested quite a lot of his own money into it. And then all this shit storm started, bad management/player issues whatever the case might be it was bad enough that Boxer just cant be bothered any more and jumped ship back to SKT1. The team was more or less just ran by Jessica and it seemed like shes got enough as well and going to focus back to her acting career. Since the management has clearly become quite disillusioned with the way things are currently, I dont see why they would continue to run it. Some other teams continued on despite being on deathbed at several times such as TSL or Zenex but it is because there is no other alternatives for the management. This is their livelihood. They had to push on. Obviously this is not a problem for Jessica and Boxer as they are doing well enough on their own. So why would they rebuild the entire team from scratch when they can just cut their losses right now. Makes sense. Really sad though, since I've heard that once Boxer found himself leading a team his goal was to make it free of the terrible conditions and drama he faced when he started progaming. | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
and who is always at the center? fucking Jessica. i really loathe her but i'm pretty sure expressing just how much would not be tl forum-friendly so -_- i'll leave it at that and hope she fades out of relevance as soon as possible, for the long-term. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6267 Posts
Anyways, an abject lesson - don't let management interfere with the coaching of the players - this is the job of the players - management should concentrate on the management of the team. Also, weird that Boxer lets Jessica boss him around like this lol | ||
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bri9and
United States246 Posts
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:31 Subversive wrote: Yeah it's no doubt a combination of factors and mistakes from all of them. But the reason people are reacting differently to Crank and Jessica is probably a question of attitude. Whether he was right or wrong, Crank just calmly states his side. Jessica is burning to expose and crush these guys... It's not very dignified and it looks bad. Especially when you consider that she is 40 and well-off and she is trying to ruin a bunch of young dudes in their early twenties. Call me crazy, but this seems unnecessary. If she really gave a shit about SlayerS and their memory she could just let it go now. Pursuing this to the bitter end is pointless. Well that is to say jessica is just responding to crank as well trying to justify as to the true account of the past, by no means is she flaming crank. I dont think shes trying to ruin their lives but just giving the account of the situation as she states again and again. She isnt going hey crank/mma are evil but rather just providing the evidence to support her claims. And as her tweet suggested "ok make your call" but yes, youre on the point about jess not taking the blame from her arrogance.. Its sad it had to go this deep | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:45 masterbreti wrote: ok I just want to ask 1 thing and state another Did anyone actually hear the tape, or just a transscript? I know a transcript was released in Korean, but it seems the tape isn't added. And to be honest I have to side With Jessica/BoxeR/Cella Crank and MMA have every reason to lie, there careers right now are in the balance, Jessica has no reason to lie, Jessica will contiune to make lots of money in acting and such, she doesn't have a reason to lie. For people trusting MMA over Jessica, it is quite silly. People don't know MMA, they will believe MMA just because he is a player, and they are fans of his, which makes things rather bias. It bothers me that the sc community can't look at things unbiased in this incident. People will take MMA's side even if he came out and sais he was guilty of everything, people would still say he is innocent. Right, nice flawed logic there. People don't trust Jessica because how bad she has managed the team and the drama she brings never stops. Just because someone has a good reputation doesn't mean they are in the right all the time, and no one should ever think like that. Who exactly is Jessica? I have no idea who that is , so why should I believe her over someone I sort of know? | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:47 Caihead wrote: They lost all their sponsors due to Mr J so if they wanted to continue it was always out of boxer's pocket and they couldn't find sponsors (assumed) due to the players situation and team atmosphere any ways. I read Jessica's claim that Boxer poured in about 90K of his own money. What I would like to know is if this was out of the 200K personal sponsorship he received or on top of? That seems sort of relevant when everyone keeps talking about Boxer sacrificing his own money. Especially the way Jessica makes it sound... | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:45 masterbreti wrote: ok I just want to ask 1 thing and state another Did anyone actually hear the tape, or just a transscript? I know a transcript was released in Korean, but it seems the tape isn't added. And to be honest I have to side With Jessica/BoxeR/Cella Crank and MMA have every reason to lie, there careers right now are in the balance, Jessica has no reason to lie, Jessica will contiune to make lots of money in acting and such, she doesn't have a reason to lie. For people trusting MMA over Jessica, it is quite silly. People don't know MMA, they will believe MMA just because he is a player, and they are fans of his, which makes things rather bias. It bothers me that the sc community can't look at things unbiased in this incident. People will take MMA's side even if he came out and sais he was guilty of everything, people would still say he is innocent. I'm more inclined to believe MMA's account, because it is very gray, while Jessica's is black and white, though to be honest, it is really just a bunch of different people's perceptions of the same event. I think everyone directly involved has a distorted view of the situation. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
Id translate but im on iphone T_T | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:44 Veldril wrote: Wait, you mean the team manager assigned a personal coach and then make him pay for it, while he does not have a chance to look for any or have any knowledge for sponsorship? Mind blown. Jessica should never ever manage any business again. when did i say the team manager assigned a personal coach? why are you making shit up? omfg ..... ok ill give a slighty more detailed explanation. MMA introduced coach Ryu won, who at the time was a close friend of MMA, to jessica. Jessica, MMA and Ryu met in person and coach Ryu was told by jessica that no salary would be paid by her to him since he is MMA's personal coach. Do you now understand??? It was MMA who introduced Ryu to jessica. | ||
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Shival
Netherlands643 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:50 NovemberstOrm wrote: Right, nice flawed logic there. People don't trust Jessica because how bad she has managed the team and the drama she brings never stops. Just because someone has a reputation doesn't mean they are in the right all the time, and no one should ever think like that. That's funny. I hope you realize what you just did. Something to do with reputation and not trusting Jessica, and turning around your last statement. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:45 masterbreti wrote: Jessica has no reason to lie, Jessica will contiune to make lots of money in acting and such, she doesn't have a reason to lie. Ego. | ||
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ThePurist
Canada686 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:51 Subversive wrote: I read Jessica's claim that Boxer poured in about 90K of his own money. What I would like to know is if this was out of the 200K personal sponsorship he received or on top of? That seems sort of relevant when everyone keeps talking about Boxer sacrificing his own money. Especially the way Jessica makes it sound... Where is the 90k? | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:45 masterbreti wrote: ok I just want to ask 1 thing and state another Did anyone actually hear the tape, or just a transscript? I know a transcript was released in Korean, but it seems the tape isn't added. And to be honest I have to side With Jessica/BoxeR/Cella Crank and MMA have every reason to lie, there careers right now are in the balance, Jessica has no reason to lie, Jessica will contiune to make lots of money in acting and such, she doesn't have a reason to lie. For people trusting MMA over Jessica, it is quite silly. People don't know MMA, they will believe MMA just because he is a player, and they are fans of his, which makes things rather bias. It bothers me that the sc community can't look at things unbiased in this incident. People will take MMA's side even if he came out and sais he was guilty of everything, people would still say he is innocent. My general impression of the community's response to Jessica's statements was that MMA is a child and that Jessica was misunderstood. I assure you once she releases her next response which will probably rail MMA and Crank into oblivion, the community will flip back. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:45 masterbreti wrote: ok I just want to ask 1 thing and state another Did anyone actually hear the tape, or just a transscript? I know a transcript was released in Korean, but it seems the tape isn't added. And to be honest I have to side With Jessica/BoxeR/Cella Crank and MMA have every reason to lie, there careers right now are in the balance, Jessica has no reason to lie, Jessica will contiune to make lots of money in acting and such, she doesn't have a reason to lie. For people trusting MMA over Jessica, it is quite silly. People don't know MMA, they will believe MMA just because he is a player, and they are fans of his, which makes things rather bias. It bothers me that the sc community can't look at things unbiased in this incident. People will take MMA's side even if he came out and sais he was guilty of everything, people would still say he is innocent. It's not about siding with Jessica or players. Both players and management are in the wrong. However, someone recognize that they are in the wrong and accept it, while the head of the team (Jessica) doesn't even admit her faults (bad management, seriously) that she did and try to blame all of the faults on one side, instead of accepting that she did something wrong too. I would be more sympathize toward her than this if she just admit that she did not communicate with her players that well and was complacent on J case. But she just blames everything on others and that make her looks childish and not trustworthy. | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:52 Shival wrote: That's funny. I hope you realize what you just did. Something to do with reputation and not trusting Jessica, and turning around your last statement. I'm talking about if someone has a "good reputation" that you shouldn't believe them all the time , that doesn't apply to the opposite. here i'll fix it just for you. | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
use the cars for transport it seems :0 | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:51 Subversive wrote: I read Jessica's claim that Boxer poured in about 90K of his own money. What I would like to know is if this was out of the 200K personal sponsorship he received or on top of? That seems sort of relevant when everyone keeps talking about Boxer sacrificing his own money. Especially the way Jessica makes it sound... I guess, I have missed something. When did Boxer receive a 200K ($?/won?) sponsorship and who gave it to him? | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
It's in her initial interview. She says he put in "x amount of won" I just remember 90K because I googled the transfer rate. | ||
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