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Shival
Netherlands643 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:06 tMomiji wrote: Regardless I do not condone the way she has handled this and how she has attacked them. That's fine, I beg to differ but it's a fine opinion to have  | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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astray71
United States325 Posts
I doubt Team Liquid will pick any of them up as it goes against their philosophy to sign only people who are still growing and not at the top of the pyramid already. I really hope EG doesn't get any of them =/ | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:08 Kazeyonoma wrote: Now people are claiming people age 23-24 are kids... awesome, the level of stretch and spin people are going to to defend players is ridiculous. Is jessica going kinda crazy in this? maybe, but she's merely stating the truths about what caused SlayerS to crumble, the ESF stuff is good to air out because it prevents them from doing it again in the future, now she's just making sure players man up to what they did, and admit they were wrong. Sure she needs to admit she was in the wrong too, which she may do once everyone has admitted fault as well, but right now she has consistently provided evidence and truth against players time and again, and she's offered them to apologize for their wrong doings but instead they've forced her to release statements over and over which further drags their name into the mud, and now Cella is even replying and basically stating the truth with what Jessica has been staying. So what now, you guys gonna turn on Cella as well? So what she says is "truth" simply because she states it? And they have admitted some fault - unlike Jessica who has maintained she is completely 100% in the right. And offering for them to apologise? Wow that's big of her, you're right. | ||
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tMomiji
United States1115 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:09 Shival wrote: That's fine, I beg to differ but it's a fine opinion to have -gasp- You mean two people can have different opinions but still be civil towards each other? MADNESS. This is the internet, we can't be civil on the internet! | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
The thing is, both sides are slinging so much crap at each other I can't see the middle ground for all the bullshit that's smeared everywhere. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13438&id=1319745 | ||
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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:07 mtn wrote: Then you can turn the tables on "these guys" too. How immature are they to not accept what they have done wrong. Just sayin. Your point has zero sense, since more evidence actually Jessica provided. They both apologise for the mistakes they've made and also thank Boxer and Jessica in the interviews. So... I think what I said is valid. And my point is that Jessica had her say. Long and bitterly. Now they've given their side. The dignified thing would be to let it go now. Edit: Where the hell is everyone getting this "evidence" notion that Jessica supposedly provided? It's like her overwhelming self-belief, confidence and getting in first has somehow managed to transmute itself into the appearance of evidence. Amazing. Say what you will about her management skills, her rhetoric has nothing lacking. | ||
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reikai
United States359 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:08 Subversive wrote: It really feels like Jessica is simply a better spin-doctor. She got in early with MMA being dropped to the b-team and then released that looong statement about MMA and Crank. Hard for them to get past the first impressions. But that's obviously just a guess, I'd also be interested to know from any Koreans why they think it's the case. spin doctor who has presented records and evidence? in what world is that spin? that's called truth. | ||
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:07 NightOfTheDead wrote: It doesnt matter, if what she said is true or not. Even if i can understand her, and sympathize, from a proffesional standpoint, managers do not burn their players to the ground out of some unclear personal motives. Why was it personal? She disbanded team and could leave it at that. Just formal announcements. Her vengeance doesnt serve anyone good. Even her. She didnt achieve anything apart from the ESF thing. Why are most eyes on her in the TL? Because, she started this by herself in public, roughly speaking. If her words are true she for sure should "burn" all the players on her way out. Just because they are your beloved players and they so freaking awesome and cool guys in your eyes.shouldn't protect them from such stuff... There is just no reason to not make it public if the players really did something wrong. | ||
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tMomiji
United States1115 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:13 eviltomahawk wrote: Translation of the "leaked" phone call coming soon? http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13438&id=1319745 Ohhhhh boy, here we go...this NEEDS a translation. And not just a summary, an actual translation. This could answer a lot of questions. | ||
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Shival
Netherlands643 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:08 Thehealbus wrote: I think that Jessica tried her best to to the team as well as she could, but the amount of severe problems that the players caused led to the team breaking down. I'm extremely disappointed that crank is trying to defend his constant lying. It's a very big tell that cella is siding with Jessica against crank. Indeed, evidence that Crank has been lying and severely lacking in decency (not letting Slayers know anything) has been provided. Cella is even siding with Jessica on this matter. I'm not sure how much more you guys need to stop defending the player and ridiculing Jessica. On October 23 2012 08:11 tMomiji wrote: -gasp- You mean two people can have different opinions but still be civil towards each other? MADNESS. Ridiculous notion, right? | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:13 Kazeyonoma wrote: spin doctor who has presented records and evidence? in what world is that spin? that's called truth. Spin doesn't matter. The captain of the ship is responsible for the outcome of the trip. The ship sank. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:10 Subversive wrote: So what she says is "truth" simply because she states it? And they have admitted some fault - unlike Jessica who has maintained she is completely 100% in the right. And offering for them to apologise? Wow that's big of her, you're right. no what she states are truths because she's provided evidence so far for each and every one, and the otherside has provided none, other than hearsay, or confusion of statements. not to mention a lot of their 'distrust' for jessica, came from the claim that she's been stealing their money, because her and boxer, are so desperate for cash. THAT is stupidity. | ||
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:13 rasers wrote: If her words are true she for sure should "burn" all the players on her way out. Just because they are your beloved players and they so freaking awesome and cool guys in your eyes.shouldn't protect them from such stuff... you mean she should burn the players for wanting to leave the team? Cause this fact is clear as day. | ||
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Shival
Netherlands643 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:14 tMomiji wrote: Ohhhhh boy, here we go...this NEEDS a translation. And not just a summary, an actual translation. This could answer a lot of questions. I think we need to do something nice for the translators when this is all over, they're working double shifts. | ||
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iLevitate
United States225 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On October 23 2012 08:14 Shival wrote: Indeed, evidence that Crank has been lying and severely lacking in decency (not letting Slayers know anything) has been provided. Where? | ||
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