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[Interview] Code S Grand Finals 2012 GSL Season 4

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wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 14:26:42
October 20 2012 11:55 GMT
#1
(Z)ST_Life

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Source: This Is Game

You became GSL champion on your first try in order to become the first Code S Royal Roader.

I wasn't sure that I would win, but I'm glad that I was able to take the championship like this. I felt some extra pressure because I was playing in front of my parents. I thought that as long as I didn't believe in the StarTale jinx and played the way I always did, I would be able to win. Being the first Royal Roader on my team makes me unbelievably happy.

You took the first and second sets, but looked shaky as you handed the next three games to Mvp.

By the time I reached the sixth set on Ohana, I felt an enormous amount of mental pressure. I had anticipated that I would lose, but after seeing Mvp start building his second expansion, I was able to win by forcing Command Center cancels.

What would you say was your hardest game this season?

I would say that the last set of the finals was the hardest for me. After I was placed at a disadvantage, I was thinking of giving up, but I managed to successfully turn the tables and take the game. It stands out in my mind in particular as a set that was very difficult to win.

From the sixth set onward, you used Zergling-Infestor compositions. Was there any special reason for this?

My teammates told me that Mvp likes to use mech compositions often, but I didn't think that he would use constantly use mech over and over again. Mass Infestor armies are very powerful against mech, so I chose to use Ling-Infestor.

During the final set, you staked your victory on a 10pool build. Were you anticipating an 11/11 Barracks rush?

I had thought that my opponent was going to cheese, but I got confused when he continued to use the same build from his previous games.

How did you prepare for the finals?

Because of school, I didn't have much time to practice, but when I practiced on Friday, I was strangely able to do really well. I was able to win because of Friday's practice session.

Some people have called your play style a new paradigm shift for Zerg.

I play the way I do because I have a lot of confidence in my Zergling micro. Because it's difficult for others to emulate my style, I wouldn't call it a paradigm shift.

Are there any personal goals that you have as a player? Is there any particular rank that you would like to achieve?

I want to show all of my fans some exciting matches. Instead of aiming for a specific rank, I want to steadily build up my career and win.

What are your goals for next season?

I don't know if I'll be able to accomplish this because of how strong the KeSPA players are, but I definitely want to win the next GSL.

Do you have anything to say about the forced shutdown incident at Iron Squid? [T/N: Details here]

It's the law, so what can I say? I just want to grow up faster (laughs).
(ノ´∀`*)ノ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♪ ♫ (✌゚∀゚)☞ ♪ ♫ ヽ(´ー`)ノ ♫ ♫ (ノ´_ゝ`)ノ彡 ┻━┻
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
October 20 2012 11:58 GMT
#2
Love it!
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 20 2012 12:01 GMT
#3
One day of practice, win GSL finals ez pz life.
Glorious SEA doto
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
October 20 2012 12:01 GMT
#4
Thanks
John 15:13
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
October 20 2012 12:02 GMT
#5
very well done, Life. such a deep story under such a young face.

thank you for the translation.
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SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
October 20 2012 12:02 GMT
#6
Gratz to Life !

Thanks Wozzot, really fast !
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
October 20 2012 12:06 GMT
#7
Thank you for the translation
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
October 20 2012 12:28 GMT
#8
Thanks for the translation! Grats Life! Finally a Startale player wins it!
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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
October 20 2012 12:31 GMT
#9
If I'm not wrong, he was even in school this morning. This kid man haha. So scary
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
October 20 2012 12:57 GMT
#10
Thanks for the interview!
I really like Life's responses. Especially about just building up his career. I hope he continues to have success.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
October 20 2012 13:05 GMT
#11
This kid is a total boss. Crazy how good he is even with school and forced shutdown.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 20 2012 13:07 GMT
#12
Wow, well done life gz, how much did he win?
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
October 20 2012 13:15 GMT
#13
Life is sucha great player but he should have known by now that what he said that Mvp's macro game is not as good as him is wrong. Mvp fought valiantly too. Fantastic final.
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
October 20 2012 13:15 GMT
#14
Practiced one day and owned Mvp
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 20 2012 13:25 GMT
#15
Brilliant. This kid is a genius. I'm a Kespa fan and do feel joy that he is giving them respect but I don't think he should sweat much. Once he goes full-time into SC2, his talent combined with serious practice would bring him to levels even greater.

Seriously, just wondering because he brought it up, I wonder if the eSF teams will raise their practice sessions because of the coming of the Kespa teams. I hope they do so that the entire Korean scene just gets better.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 20 2012 13:28 GMT
#16
Ah gg!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
October 20 2012 13:29 GMT
#17
Now if only everyone had had the common sense to make a thread title like this I would not had been spoiled about the results before watching the vods -.-
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
robert1005
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands98 Posts
October 20 2012 13:29 GMT
#18
gz for winning gsl
The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine.
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
October 20 2012 13:39 GMT
#19
On October 20 2012 22:29 VanGarde wrote:
Now if only everyone had had the common sense to make a thread title like this I would not had been spoiled about the results before watching the vods -.-


Someone who chose to come to TL before watching vod complain about spoilers? Is this some kind of joke?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 20 2012 13:54 GMT
#20
On October 20 2012 22:29 VanGarde wrote:
Now if only everyone had had the common sense to make a thread title like this I would not had been spoiled about the results before watching the vods -.-


funny you mention common sense.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
October 20 2012 13:58 GMT
#21
On October 20 2012 22:39 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 22:29 VanGarde wrote:
Now if only everyone had had the common sense to make a thread title like this I would not had been spoiled about the results before watching the vods -.-


Someone who chose to come to TL before watching vod complain about spoilers? Is this some kind of joke?


Wishful thinking my friend, whining is always easier than accepting responsibility.

As far as I know there is no rule on TL against spoilers, unless they are spoiling a match that has not yet been aired (which is only relevant for leagues that don't stream the games live as they are happening).
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#22
well grats to life. very close series
vijeze
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands719 Posts
October 20 2012 14:31 GMT
#23
l'chaim!
Congratz
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
October 20 2012 16:35 GMT
#24
Wanted MVP to win, but very well deserved win for Life. Really sick mechanics....always having creep everywhere, always a million lings on the field and still having the sick economy. This guy must never miss an inject.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 20 2012 16:47 GMT
#25
On October 20 2012 22:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 22:39 MaNaVoId wrote:
On October 20 2012 22:29 VanGarde wrote:
Now if only everyone had had the common sense to make a thread title like this I would not had been spoiled about the results before watching the vods -.-


Someone who chose to come to TL before watching vod complain about spoilers? Is this some kind of joke?


Wishful thinking my friend, whining is always easier than accepting responsibility.

As far as I know there is no rule on TL against spoilers, unless they are spoiling a match that has not yet been aired (which is only relevant for leagues that don't stream the games live as they are happening).


There's so much much more to TL than just sc2, y'know?
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
October 20 2012 16:50 GMT
#26
I've always said that Zerg played at it's highest potential is the strongest race. Life's mechanics and playstyle is only a glimpse of what has yet to come. I can imagine Jaedong emulating this or other kespa zergs.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 20 2012 16:53 GMT
#27
축하해 이승현~
This kid is a total boss, expecting more from this guy in the future, and having a GSL trophy will get him the girls at school :p
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 20 2012 16:56 GMT
#28
Didn't expect this result. I'm impressed.

gj Life don't slump after this
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 20 2012 16:59 GMT
#29
On October 21 2012 01:47 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 22:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On October 20 2012 22:39 MaNaVoId wrote:
On October 20 2012 22:29 VanGarde wrote:
Now if only everyone had had the common sense to make a thread title like this I would not had been spoiled about the results before watching the vods -.-


Someone who chose to come to TL before watching vod complain about spoilers? Is this some kind of joke?


Wishful thinking my friend, whining is always easier than accepting responsibility.

As far as I know there is no rule on TL against spoilers, unless they are spoiling a match that has not yet been aired (which is only relevant for leagues that don't stream the games live as they are happening).


There's so much much more to TL than just sc2, y'know?


TL's doesn't have a no spoiler policy. Coming to a big community website without a no spoiler policy expecting not to get spoiled and getting spoiled anyway is nobody's fault but the guy who decided to go the website in spite of knowing damn well he might be spoiled.
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
October 20 2012 17:00 GMT
#30
On October 21 2012 01:53 PhoenixVoid wrote:
축하해 이승현~
This kid is a total boss, expecting more from this guy in the future, and having a GSL trophy will get him the girls at school :p

Once he shows that shampoo bottle to everyone the women are gonna be all over him
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10328 Posts
October 20 2012 17:04 GMT
#31
On October 20 2012 21:01 Fusilero wrote:
One day of practice, win GSL finals ez pz life.


haha

Life fighting :D

also lol he thoguht mvp would cheese, wouldn't be surprised if he did tho
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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
October 20 2012 17:14 GMT
#32
tyty.. great job life.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
October 20 2012 17:18 GMT
#33
Most talented sc2 zerg I have seen.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
October 20 2012 17:33 GMT
#34
lol practice one day.

SUCH A BOSS
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
October 20 2012 17:37 GMT
#35
ty for interview, go life!
Team owner of team QTLing
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 20 2012 17:39 GMT
#36
On October 21 2012 02:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
lol practice one day.

SUCH A BOSS


??? He never said he practiced for one day only... He said that the practice session on Friday went well and that lead to his win...
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 20 2012 17:42 GMT
#37
On October 21 2012 01:50 power-overwhelming wrote:
I've always said that Zerg played at it's highest potential is the strongest race. Life's mechanics and playstyle is only a glimpse of what has yet to come. I can imagine Jaedong emulating this or other kespa zergs.


And if that happens, they will get a nerf (or map will be made more anti Zerg). As player level rises, things will need to get 'rebalanced'.
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
October 20 2012 18:27 GMT
#38
On October 21 2012 02:42 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 01:50 power-overwhelming wrote:
I've always said that Zerg played at it's highest potential is the strongest race. Life's mechanics and playstyle is only a glimpse of what has yet to come. I can imagine Jaedong emulating this or other kespa zergs.


And if that happens, they will get a nerf (or map will be made more anti Zerg). As player level rises, things will need to get 'rebalanced'.


It's unfortunate that blizzard chose this model, but yeah basically, if it's something that a person can do that another person cannot prove they can beat, and only given some time to prove whether they can beat it or not, it needs to change. I wish it could be like SC1 where they give players time to show us their creativity, but Blizzard gets so much pressure from the large crowd of inexperienced players who want to see a good show right away. Anyway thats that...

MVP had a great strategy with mind games, doing the same strat over and over clearly got to Life, who kept guessing and wondering about the different possibilities. But Life finally overcame the hurdle of MVP. Hope MVP can take this as a sign to retire till HoS and recover himself :'(
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
DreamTheaterFan
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada52 Posts
October 20 2012 18:36 GMT
#39
The key element here is Life himself sees the final batch of Kespa players as the turning point in SC2: they will eventually always win.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 18:45:42
October 20 2012 18:45 GMT
#40
On October 21 2012 03:27 Confuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 02:42 vthree wrote:
On October 21 2012 01:50 power-overwhelming wrote:
I've always said that Zerg played at it's highest potential is the strongest race. Life's mechanics and playstyle is only a glimpse of what has yet to come. I can imagine Jaedong emulating this or other kespa zergs.


And if that happens, they will get a nerf (or map will be made more anti Zerg). As player level rises, things will need to get 'rebalanced'.


It's unfortunate that blizzard chose this model, but yeah basically, if it's something that a person can do that another person cannot prove they can beat, and only given some time to prove whether they can beat it or not, it needs to change. I wish it could be like SC1 where they give players time to show us their creativity, but Blizzard gets so much pressure from the large crowd of inexperienced players who want to see a good show right away. Anyway thats that...

MVP had a great strategy with mind games, doing the same strat over and over clearly got to Life, who kept guessing and wondering about the different possibilities. But Life finally overcame the hurdle of MVP. Hope MVP can take this as a sign to retire till HoS and recover himself :'(


I dunno they haven't nerfed zerg when once the patch came out zvt went heavily zerg favored for a couple months in korea then it started evening out but it took a few months before zvt became even again (least in kr I imagine foreign zvt stats still favor zerg?).

They do have patience before releasing patches normally to see how the community reacts.

Thanks for the interview was a nice finals life so gosu :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 20 2012 19:28 GMT
#41
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa. I always thought life's zvt style was unbeatable with his ling/bane aggression and this just proved it to me. MVP went mech all 7 games because he knew any bio/tank style would get destroyed by life's ling/bane aggression, so didn't dare to try it even once against life. MVP forced life to adapt and change his style and life still beat mvp in the end. I really don't think there's a terran in the world right now that can beat life in a bo7 and only mvp is capable of pushing him to the max.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18397 Posts
October 20 2012 19:38 GMT
#42
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa.


I stopped reading after this lol.

this is a troll post, right?
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
October 20 2012 19:40 GMT
#43
I'm so impressed by his skill and maturity at age of 15...
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 19:42:01
October 20 2012 19:40 GMT
#44
On October 21 2012 04:38 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa.


I stopped reading after this lol.

this is a troll post, right?


Name a zerg better right now? He's way better than stephano and I'd say better than DRG at the moment too. Life is the favourite to win MLG and IPL 5 right now as well and wouldn't be surprised if he won both. Life is the only zerg to truly impress me besides DRG and Nestea at their peaks.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 20 2012 19:42 GMT
#45
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa. I always thought life's zvt style was unbeatable with his ling/bane aggression and this just proved it to me. MVP went mech all 7 games because he knew any bio/tank style would get destroyed by life's ling/bane aggression, so didn't dare to try it even once against life. MVP forced life to adapt and change his style and life still beat mvp in the end. I really don't think there's a terran in the world right now that can beat life in a bo7 and only mvp is capable of pushing him to the max.


You can say this once Life looks invincible in all MUs for a solid period of time, and takes every tournament possible.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 20 2012 19:42 GMT
#46
On October 21 2012 04:40 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 04:38 sharkie wrote:
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa.


I stopped reading after this lol.

this is a troll post, right?


Name a zerg better right now? He's way better than stephano and I'd say better than DRG at the moment too. Life is the favourite to win MLG and IPL 5 right now as well and wouldn't be surprised if he won both.


Expectations are a bit high. We don't know how much school (which is his top priority) will interfere with the next year.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 20 2012 19:45 GMT
#47
On October 21 2012 04:42 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa. I always thought life's zvt style was unbeatable with his ling/bane aggression and this just proved it to me. MVP went mech all 7 games because he knew any bio/tank style would get destroyed by life's ling/bane aggression, so didn't dare to try it even once against life. MVP forced life to adapt and change his style and life still beat mvp in the end. I really don't think there's a terran in the world right now that can beat life in a bo7 and only mvp is capable of pushing him to the max.


You can say this once Life looks invincible in all MUs for a solid period of time, and takes every tournament possible.


Well the zerg bonjwa thing is just the ongoing tasteless joke. I standby everything else I said though.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
October 20 2012 19:50 GMT
#48
This isnt broodwar where bonjwas looked unbeatable.

Well bonjwas looked unbeatable only because there was

1. no balance patch

2. There were only two individual leagues: OSL and MSL whereas there are so many tourneys

held all over the world in sc2 , meaning no one can actually win EVERYTHING.

어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18397 Posts
October 20 2012 19:52 GMT
#49
On October 21 2012 04:50 mongmong wrote:
This isnt broodwar where bonjwas looked unbeatable.

Well bonjwas looked unbeatable only because there was

1. no balance patch

2. There were only two individual leagues: OSL and MSL whereas there are so many tourneys

held all over the world in sc2 , meaning no one can actually win EVERYTHING.



so savior looked unbeatable because there was no balance patch?

how come other zergs werent able to repeat his feats then?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 20 2012 20:09 GMT
#50
On October 21 2012 03:36 DreamTheaterFan wrote:
The key element here is Life himself sees the final batch of Kespa players as the turning point in SC2: they will eventually always win.


No, I don't think so. Remember, Flash won OSL at the age of 15 338 days after his breakout onto the BW scene, whereas Life won the GSL 267 days after his debut - at least according to the TL preview. I'm not saying Life is as good as Flash - it's way too early to say, but there's no telling how could he could be once he's out of school and focusing solely on Starcraft II. Really, he's looked a lot like a prodigy this tournament, and his rapid improvement tells loads about how good he could
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 20 2012 20:10 GMT
#51
On October 21 2012 04:52 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 04:50 mongmong wrote:
This isnt broodwar where bonjwas looked unbeatable.

Well bonjwas looked unbeatable only because there was

1. no balance patch

2. There were only two individual leagues: OSL and MSL whereas there are so many tourneys

held all over the world in sc2 , meaning no one can actually win EVERYTHING.



so savior looked unbeatable because there was no balance patch?

how come other zergs werent able to repeat his feats then?


Because people eventually figured Savior out, maybe? I'm not an expert, but I think Bisu showed up and crushed Savior, whereas his ZvT was also, gradually, figured out; despite his multitude of innovations.

But again - I'm not sure about this, but I do think this was how his decline was explained.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
October 20 2012 20:11 GMT
#52
Congratulations. I feel bad for MVP, but well played Life ><
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Greece10806 Posts
October 20 2012 20:25 GMT
#53
I wanna see an on form MMA vs this guy.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 20 2012 23:21 GMT
#54
On October 21 2012 04:50 mongmong wrote:
This isnt broodwar where bonjwas looked unbeatable.

Well bonjwas looked unbeatable only because there was

1. no balance patch

2. There were only two individual leagues: OSL and MSL whereas there are so many tourneys

held all over the world in sc2 , meaning no one can actually win EVERYTHING.



Being a bonjwa is not about winning every single tournament. Savior only won one OSL. People need to stop throwing the word around without knowing what it means.
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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
October 20 2012 23:35 GMT
#55
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa. I always thought life's zvt style was unbeatable with his ling/bane aggression and this just proved it to me. MVP went mech all 7 games because he knew any bio/tank style would get destroyed by life's ling/bane aggression, so didn't dare to try it even once against life. MVP forced life to adapt and change his style and life still beat mvp in the end. I really don't think there's a terran in the world right now that can beat life in a bo7 and only mvp is capable of pushing him to the max.

lol hell no it's not unbeatable, MVP just fucked up last night with so many overextended move and losing the entire army or forgot to make more vikings. No offense but it was MVP played badly rather than Life was that good. In game 4 and 5 we could absolutely agree that MVP look much more solid and no big mistake like the games that he lost.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 20 2012 23:38 GMT
#56
Bonjwa is a BW term, get your own.
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Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
October 20 2012 23:47 GMT
#57
Funny how he goes to school AND beats Mvp... What a ballerrrrrr
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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 23:52:47
October 20 2012 23:52 GMT
#58
These interviews are a competition too. The first I check is, who translated it this time faster. I should keep record
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Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
October 21 2012 00:18 GMT
#59
On October 21 2012 05:09 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 03:36 DreamTheaterFan wrote:
The key element here is Life himself sees the final batch of Kespa players as the turning point in SC2: they will eventually always win.


No, I don't think so. Remember, Flash won OSL at the age of 15 338 days after his breakout onto the BW scene, whereas Life won the GSL 267 days after his debut - at least according to the TL preview. I'm not saying Life is as good as Flash - it's way too early to say, but there's no telling how could he could be once he's out of school and focusing solely on Starcraft II. Really, he's looked a lot like a prodigy this tournament, and his rapid improvement tells loads about how good he could


SC2 and BW are two different games. As a matter of fact, Flash's accomplishment in BW will never be broken. Life's accomplishment in SC2 may be broken any day in the future, since unlike BW, sc2 is alive.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10328 Posts
October 21 2012 00:27 GMT
#60
On October 21 2012 08:38 Xiphos wrote:
Bonjwa is a BW term, get your own.


Cus it's not like a korean word that took on new connotations as a BW term or anything
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 21 2012 00:29 GMT
#61
On October 21 2012 08:35 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa. I always thought life's zvt style was unbeatable with his ling/bane aggression and this just proved it to me. MVP went mech all 7 games because he knew any bio/tank style would get destroyed by life's ling/bane aggression, so didn't dare to try it even once against life. MVP forced life to adapt and change his style and life still beat mvp in the end. I really don't think there's a terran in the world right now that can beat life in a bo7 and only mvp is capable of pushing him to the max.

lol hell no it's not unbeatable, MVP just fucked up last night with so many overextended move and losing the entire army or forgot to make more vikings. No offense but it was MVP played badly rather than Life was that good. In game 4 and 5 we could absolutely agree that MVP look much more solid and no big mistake like the games that he lost.


What a shame. I didn't know being more solid in two games meant anything in a BO7.
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journaIist
Profile Joined August 2012
39 Posts
October 21 2012 00:43 GMT
#62
Big win! Congratulations. He seems to be a really shy kid.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 21 2012 00:46 GMT
#63
On October 21 2012 09:27 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 08:38 Xiphos wrote:
Bonjwa is a BW term, get your own.


Cus it's not like a korean word that took on new connotations as a BW term or anything


You got that right.
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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
October 21 2012 00:52 GMT
#64
On October 21 2012 09:29 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 08:35 tuho12345 wrote:
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa. I always thought life's zvt style was unbeatable with his ling/bane aggression and this just proved it to me. MVP went mech all 7 games because he knew any bio/tank style would get destroyed by life's ling/bane aggression, so didn't dare to try it even once against life. MVP forced life to adapt and change his style and life still beat mvp in the end. I really don't think there's a terran in the world right now that can beat life in a bo7 and only mvp is capable of pushing him to the max.

lol hell no it's not unbeatable, MVP just fucked up last night with so many overextended move and losing the entire army or forgot to make more vikings. No offense but it was MVP played badly rather than Life was that good. In game 4 and 5 we could absolutely agree that MVP look much more solid and no big mistake like the games that he lost.


What a shame. I didn't know being more solid in two games meant anything in a BO7.

Just saying that MVP could have done better in all 4 games that he lost. And Life isn't anywhere near the fucking bonjwa level yet.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 01:03:56
October 21 2012 01:03 GMT
#65
On October 21 2012 09:52 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 09:29 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 21 2012 08:35 tuho12345 wrote:
On October 21 2012 04:28 Canucklehead wrote:
I think this solidifies Life as the best zerg in the world and the next zerg bonjwa. I always thought life's zvt style was unbeatable with his ling/bane aggression and this just proved it to me. MVP went mech all 7 games because he knew any bio/tank style would get destroyed by life's ling/bane aggression, so didn't dare to try it even once against life. MVP forced life to adapt and change his style and life still beat mvp in the end. I really don't think there's a terran in the world right now that can beat life in a bo7 and only mvp is capable of pushing him to the max.

lol hell no it's not unbeatable, MVP just fucked up last night with so many overextended move and losing the entire army or forgot to make more vikings. No offense but it was MVP played badly rather than Life was that good. In game 4 and 5 we could absolutely agree that MVP look much more solid and no big mistake like the games that he lost.


What a shame. I didn't know being more solid in two games meant anything in a BO7.

Just saying that MVP could have done better in all 4 games that he lost. And Life isn't anywhere near the fucking bonjwa level yet.


Well that's the consequences of playing mech. You can make the same basic mistakes like you would with a bio/tank or bio/medivac army, but the consequences are far more severe. But remember it was Mvp's choice to go mech in all 7 games. In the Symbol series he didn't hesitate to go for more traditional compositions.

He was joking.
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