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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 19 2012 16:00 GMT
#61
Hang on folks, my ROFLCOPTER has arrived!

Also, you'll never know if Inca is at the event or not. He's fucking CLOAKED
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zOverdose
Profile Joined October 2012
Korea (South)8 Posts
October 19 2012 16:09 GMT
#62
Would've liked to see VINES play again..
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fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
October 19 2012 16:13 GMT
#63
hope this is a personal thing and not the sponsor not having money
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
October 19 2012 16:16 GMT
#64
This should be a much bigger deal than the SlayerS thing.

This really indicates a sad trend of these new teams arising out of nowhere, and then badly managing themselves and screwing over the players. It's really a shame that this is still so common, and shouldn't be allowed to happen. Players need to start being more aware and people need to start calling these people on their bullshit.
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malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
October 19 2012 16:17 GMT
#65
On October 20 2012 00:33 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 00:30 Shadow_Dog wrote:
On October 19 2012 22:44 Lysanias wrote:
So this team already short on money ? I really hope that that is not the case and that there are other reasons for it.


They are not short on money. They set up some office somewhere in DE, Munich I think. I've heard from ex-apeX mangers that besides the office being really expensive, they're paying ~6k/month for internet and phones alone. The owner is really rich because of some family business or something. Anyways, I think the owner went into the business expecting to make some money out of it, as he was taking some percentage from their CoD teams winnings. This is kind of silly because some of the prize pools for CoD are really small (~3k for first place at the most recent EGL event). So they have money but he does not want to give it to players or something like that. The company is pretty whack and as long as they have the same problems (booking plane tickets at the very last, last minute, management - player communication, etc.) I would say that players are going to be leaving really fast, and a lot of people have.

I've pretty much heard the same story about this particular team; Basically they have money and resources, its just that they don't seem to give a damn, only reason is that they want to make a quick buck.



at the same time you don't start a team to lose money

although I'm not condoning this teams practices

just saying imagine if you invested your personal money into it.. it must be stressful

but if I had money I wouldn't start a team lol I'm smarter than that
dumchu
MauliSchaumi
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany21 Posts
October 19 2012 16:18 GMT
#66
money is everything in the world...
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 16:21:53
October 19 2012 16:21 GMT
#67
Not sure why players just "trust" organizations like this. If there is a contract in place, take legal action. If there was never a contract....you deserve all the shady shit happening.

There are dozens of cautionary tales littering SC2 (and eSports') history. New teams that promise much are usually too good to be true. Makes me appreciate the stalwarts of the scene that much more to be honest -- the solid, honest teams that make it work.
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xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
October 19 2012 16:41 GMT
#68
so here, we don't see the massive "call the sponsors" movement ?
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
October 19 2012 16:42 GMT
#69
On October 19 2012 22:58 desRow wrote:
and the cracks begin to show WUB WUB WUB

Hey you!Yes you!...i hope i can get a picture with u this weekend :D
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chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
October 19 2012 16:45 GMT
#70
On October 20 2012 01:21 IPA wrote:
Not sure why players just "trust" organizations like this. If there is a contract in place, take legal action. If there was never a contract....you deserve all the shady shit happening.

There are dozens of cautionary tales littering SC2 (and eSports') history. New teams that promise much are usually too good to be true. Makes me appreciate the stalwarts of the scene that much more to be honest -- the solid, honest teams that make it work.

Yeah, there really seems to be a premise of over-promise and under-deliver. apeX is an extremely wealthy team, their structure is much like that of Quantic. Incredibly wealthy owner starting a team on venture capital. Our team motto is pretty much the opposite of apeX and similar teams. Under promise and over deliver. That leaves you with players that are surprised/happy when you do something for them rather than you fulfilling their expectations. It leads to a much happier an closer team, although you may not immediately attract allstar 'hired guns'.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
October 19 2012 16:47 GMT
#71
On October 20 2012 01:13 fortheGG wrote:
hope this is a personal thing and not the sponsor not having money


they're not going because apex has to use the money to pay morrow's salary. morrow confirmed on his twitter. /sarcasm

i think its more than likely a money issue.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
October 19 2012 17:09 GMT
#72
what is this fucking shit, and last moment notice, sigh
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Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
October 19 2012 17:33 GMT
#73
On October 19 2012 22:48 GunPaladin wrote:
In my opinion this is strike one, I really hope this was just a fluke and that they'll be able to give the players the support they deserve.


Strike one? lol, if anyone takes Apex as a serious business after this they're simply kidding themselves. We've all heard the stories from former players of different games saying how Apex still owes them money, they wait until one day before the event to say "lol j/k, we're sending no one to DreamHack". Are they seriously trying to convince us that they didn't know a month ago that there was no way they could afford the plane tickets. Also the whole "can't update cause internet so bad in Manchester". Okay UK's internet is shoddy but they can't even go to a frikin Starbucks with a lap top and update a twitter account? Bullshit, seems like a smash and scam job to me.
furo
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany449 Posts
October 19 2012 17:33 GMT
#74
On October 20 2012 01:21 IPA wrote:
Not sure why players just "trust" organizations like this. If there is a contract in place, take legal action. If there was never a contract....you deserve all the shady shit happening.

There are dozens of cautionary tales littering SC2 (and eSports') history. New teams that promise much are usually too good to be true. Makes me appreciate the stalwarts of the scene that much more to be honest -- the solid, honest teams that make it work.


your post sounds pretty naive but i'll just asume you dont know any better

these players CANT get a different team, so they fall for the false promises of a foreign team they dont know.
they are not getting payed teamless, so they join in the hopes that they get at least SOME money
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 19 2012 17:34 GMT
#75
On October 20 2012 01:00 mikedebo wrote:
Hang on folks, my ROFLCOPTER has arrived!

Also, you'll never know if Inca is at the event or not. He's fucking CLOAKED


bahahaha
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shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
October 19 2012 17:47 GMT
#76
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MrMedic
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada452 Posts
October 19 2012 17:52 GMT
#77
From the previous history of this team, I am not really surprised that this happened. But we will see when they are going to another tournament since it is stated that the thing that has caused there trip will not affect there flights again.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 18:00:42
October 19 2012 18:00 GMT
#78
I know so few people care about those players, but those who care, can tell to the sponsors about that shady team

https://twitter.com/teamrazer
https://twitter.com/360_visions
https://twitter.com/squidgrip
https://twitter.com/gam3rglov3s
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 18:11:02
October 19 2012 18:10 GMT
#79
On October 20 2012 03:00 xuanzue wrote:
I know so few people care about those players, but those who care, can tell to the sponsors about that shady team

https://twitter.com/teamrazer
https://twitter.com/360_visions
https://twitter.com/squidgrip
https://twitter.com/gam3rglov3s


How about waiting for a goddamn official statement by the team or at least by the players before telling the sponsors again?
You don't know anything about what is actually happening and you heard some people on TL say that apeX is shady and you immediately want to message sponsors?
Man, just wait until things are cleared up and if it comes out that the team is at fault you can message the sponsors.
But don't be so fast with your judgment... and don't immediately start this crap again please....
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
October 19 2012 18:13 GMT
#80
So where IS Apex's comment? Do they not have Team Liquid??
Terran it up.
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