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Ryung to Axiom, MMA deciding between Axiom/EG - Page 31

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amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
October 18 2012 16:13 GMT
#601
no offense, but isn´t axiom being run by totalbiscuit? Does he seriously have the money to compete with EG for MMA? I can see Ryung signing because he´s really tight with Crank but MMA sounds a bit more interested in money at this point.
Skyline026
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands1129 Posts
October 18 2012 16:15 GMT
#602
On October 19 2012 01:08 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 00:40 Bojas wrote:
I hope Axiom, EG seems like a team of mercenaries united by their payroll. And Axiom has a chance to become an awesome, tight friendly team sort of like TL.


I really want to know how TL is less a mercenary team than EG and is somehow more tight ?

Isn't EG the team with players living in the same houses around the world, some of them having been friends for years and who do shows involving each other all the time?

I would argue that EG is probably the tightest SC2 team outside of Korea.



Huk disagrees.
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dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 16:26:33
October 18 2012 16:25 GMT
#603
Mh, i don't want to see MMA at EG - often seems to be a hindrance to get picked up by them :/
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a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
October 18 2012 16:29 GMT
#604
On October 19 2012 01:25 dezi wrote:
Mh, i don't want to see MMA at EG - often seems to be a hindrance to get picked up by them :/


Still better than having no team.
Zhuu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States356 Posts
October 18 2012 16:35 GMT
#605
EGMMARC !
♥ Lee Soon-kyu ♥ @xZhuu
samura1panda
Profile Joined January 2012
17 Posts
October 18 2012 16:40 GMT
#606
ryung and mma needs to go their seperate ways imo. EGMMARC
BlueEagle
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom75 Posts
October 18 2012 16:51 GMT
#607
On October 19 2012 01:13 amazingoopah wrote:
no offense, but isn´t axiom being run by totalbiscuit? Does he seriously have the money to compete with EG for MMA? I can see Ryung signing because he´s really tight with Crank but MMA sounds a bit more interested in money at this point.


Technically it's run by Genna, TB's wife, TB just does the shouting or something. Whether they can compete with EG in terms of pure finances remains to be seen I guess.

I did actually wonder if Axiom would use this as an opportunity to pick up some players. I bet I wasn't the only one either
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
October 18 2012 17:19 GMT
#608
Sad.
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Sedzz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia391 Posts
October 18 2012 17:29 GMT
#609
On October 19 2012 01:15 Skyline026 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 01:08 Diavlo wrote:
On October 19 2012 00:40 Bojas wrote:
I hope Axiom, EG seems like a team of mercenaries united by their payroll. And Axiom has a chance to become an awesome, tight friendly team sort of like TL.


I really want to know how TL is less a mercenary team than EG and is somehow more tight ?

Isn't EG the team with players living in the same houses around the world, some of them having been friends for years and who do shows involving each other all the time?

I would argue that EG is probably the tightest SC2 team outside of Korea.



Huk disagrees.


One outlier doesn't invalidate his point. The players that play regularly in Korea are going to stay on Korea and not in the west.

God dammit you are stupid.



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IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
October 18 2012 17:31 GMT
#610
Yes! Ryung on Axiom! So stoked. That dude have some sick potential to become a crazy tournament winner. I hope Axiom can help bring that out.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 18 2012 17:55 GMT
#611
On October 19 2012 02:29 Sedzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 01:15 Skyline026 wrote:
On October 19 2012 01:08 Diavlo wrote:
On October 19 2012 00:40 Bojas wrote:
I hope Axiom, EG seems like a team of mercenaries united by their payroll. And Axiom has a chance to become an awesome, tight friendly team sort of like TL.


I really want to know how TL is less a mercenary team than EG and is somehow more tight ?

Isn't EG the team with players living in the same houses around the world, some of them having been friends for years and who do shows involving each other all the time?

I would argue that EG is probably the tightest SC2 team outside of Korea.



Huk disagrees.


One outlier doesn't invalidate his point. The players that play regularly in Korea are going to stay on Korea and not in the west.

God dammit you are stupid.



Guys like Incontrol, Machine, Lzgamer and IdrA have known each other for years. They had a house in Arizona well before SC2 got under way. They churn out a lot of content.

Liquid has had a team since vanilla BW. When they went into SC2 their roster was filled with guys they've known for an incredibly long time with the only exception being TLO. HuK would fit the category as well with vt and all that jazz. He had a lot of movement.

When Zenio and HerO joined they were very familiar and then there's Taeja.

With that said, every team has a different philosophy and criteria when it comes to filling their roster. They aren't the same by any stretch of the imagination.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 18 2012 17:56 GMT
#612
On October 19 2012 01:13 amazingoopah wrote:
no offense, but isn´t axiom being run by totalbiscuit? Does he seriously have the money to compete with EG for MMA? I can see Ryung signing because he´s really tight with Crank but MMA sounds a bit more interested in money at this point.


No. No it's not. Axiom is run by Genna Bain. Just because she happens to be married to TB, does not mean he is running the team. It's her team. Keep up with the current. TB and Husky are sponsors.

Also, I agree. MMA is about the money. He was looking for what, around $4k a month salary?
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Chengakz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States163 Posts
October 18 2012 18:25 GMT
#613
EG seems more stable isnt it? Compared to a startup team still building up sponsorships? If EG can afford to send their players to sports psychologists, surely they can hire better coaches right?
For Aiur!
Palecio
Profile Joined October 2012
Guatemala1 Post
October 18 2012 18:30 GMT
#614
My favorite players (MMA and ThorZaIN) and my least favorite players (Stephano and IdrA) on the same team? That would cause me more mixed feelings about EG...
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
October 18 2012 18:41 GMT
#615
On October 19 2012 01:35 Zhuu wrote:
EGMMARC !


I read that as Marc the first time..
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2971 Posts
October 18 2012 18:53 GMT
#616
MMA should go to EG, he's buddies with Thorzain too. I think he'd fit well there.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
October 18 2012 19:02 GMT
#617
On October 19 2012 02:56 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 01:13 amazingoopah wrote:
no offense, but isn´t axiom being run by totalbiscuit? Does he seriously have the money to compete with EG for MMA? I can see Ryung signing because he´s really tight with Crank but MMA sounds a bit more interested in money at this point.


No. No it's not. Axiom is run by Genna Bain. Just because she happens to be married to TB, does not mean he is running the team. It's her team. Keep up with the current. TB and Husky are sponsors.

Also, I agree. MMA is about the money. He was looking for what, around $4k a month salary?

4k a month? that's a pretty high demand for somebody who didn't impress for months.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 18 2012 19:08 GMT
#618
On October 19 2012 04:02 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 02:56 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 19 2012 01:13 amazingoopah wrote:
no offense, but isn´t axiom being run by totalbiscuit? Does he seriously have the money to compete with EG for MMA? I can see Ryung signing because he´s really tight with Crank but MMA sounds a bit more interested in money at this point.


No. No it's not. Axiom is run by Genna Bain. Just because she happens to be married to TB, does not mean he is running the team. It's her team. Keep up with the current. TB and Husky are sponsors.

Also, I agree. MMA is about the money. He was looking for what, around $4k a month salary?

4k a month? that's a pretty high demand for somebody who didn't impress for months.


Yeah, that's twice what Stephano is paid. Comes to like 180k a year which is... excessive considering MMA's lack of consistently solid performance.

Though if he gets back into an A team without that mental pressure on him and can just play and practise, as well as being flown around by EG for various events, he'd be back to his best in no time.

I was thinking, watching IPTL the other day, that EG's closest to a real ace player is Stephano, and they used him first. Imagine if MMA was still there to be deployed against DRG...

Man, with MMA on EG that team would be the most stacked foreign team by far.
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 18 2012 19:10 GMT
#619
On October 19 2012 04:08 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 04:02 Tanzklaue wrote:
On October 19 2012 02:56 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 19 2012 01:13 amazingoopah wrote:
no offense, but isn´t axiom being run by totalbiscuit? Does he seriously have the money to compete with EG for MMA? I can see Ryung signing because he´s really tight with Crank but MMA sounds a bit more interested in money at this point.


No. No it's not. Axiom is run by Genna Bain. Just because she happens to be married to TB, does not mean he is running the team. It's her team. Keep up with the current. TB and Husky are sponsors.

Also, I agree. MMA is about the money. He was looking for what, around $4k a month salary?

4k a month? that's a pretty high demand for somebody who didn't impress for months.

Comes to like 180k a year which is...

45 months in a year? Slayers disbanded, not time itself.
DownOnMyNiece
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Germany155 Posts
October 18 2012 19:12 GMT
#620
On October 19 2012 04:08 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 04:02 Tanzklaue wrote:
On October 19 2012 02:56 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 19 2012 01:13 amazingoopah wrote:
no offense, but isn´t axiom being run by totalbiscuit? Does he seriously have the money to compete with EG for MMA? I can see Ryung signing because he´s really tight with Crank but MMA sounds a bit more interested in money at this point.


No. No it's not. Axiom is run by Genna Bain. Just because she happens to be married to TB, does not mean he is running the team. It's her team. Keep up with the current. TB and Husky are sponsors.

Also, I agree. MMA is about the money. He was looking for what, around $4k a month salary?

4k a month? that's a pretty high demand for somebody who didn't impress for months.


Yeah, that's twice what Stephano is paid. Comes to like 180k a year which is... excessive considering MMA's lack of consistently solid performance.


I don't even understand what math leads to the 180k. Do your years have 40 something months?
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