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Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
October 18 2012 14:10 GMT
#561
On October 18 2012 14:31 Snijjer wrote:
I dont get why everyone says EG has a monopoly?

LG-IM has 4 GSL champions on its roster!

EG just wants to be the best team in the world - good for them.


If IM were EG they would have waited until each of those won a GSL then bought them. MVP, Nestea and Seed were all part of IM long before any of them from the start (maybe Seed later, I don't know, but he hadn't achieved anything outside the IM tag). MC is just on as a partnership.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
October 18 2012 14:11 GMT
#562
Axiom the new SlayerS?
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
October 18 2012 14:12 GMT
#563
On October 18 2012 23:08 RaZorwire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 22:58 creamyturtle wrote:
I just looked at TB and Husky's youtube pages and they aren't promoting Axiom or Crank in any way shape or form. Maybe cast some of his replays, yo?


You can't have looked very closely; Husky started doing exactly that a couple of weeks ago.


You're right. After second glance there are a few casts of AxCrank on Husky's "browse videos" page. One labeled TvZ against ThorZain for example
Terran it up.
Zenic
Profile Joined October 2010
53 Posts
October 18 2012 14:12 GMT
#564
Guys there is no bidding war for MMA, so it doesn't matter how much money the teams have. He was on top in the end of last year but fallen of the radar since then. He needs to decide between these teams because nobody is paying him the amount he would've liked.
WarSheep
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium11 Posts
October 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#565
Hummmm I hope than SK gaming will toke some SlayerS on his rooster ! But I have a suggestion :D [M]MA :D why not ? :D sounds good !?!
Eitros
Profile Joined June 2012
18 Posts
October 18 2012 14:19 GMT
#566
I hope MMA goes to Axiom.
Zenic
Profile Joined October 2010
53 Posts
October 18 2012 14:22 GMT
#567
On October 18 2012 23:03 Mirrikh wrote:
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On October 18 2012 22:50 Slardar wrote:
MMA hasn't done anything amazing for a long time. At least to the point where I haven't heard of him for months. PuMa is probably better than MMA currently or it would be close.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MMA#Achievements

That proves his point, iron squid was five month ago and since then, we haven't seen anything from him. There are not a lot of people who can be fan favourites without winning tournaments and for the most part MMA is now a random korean. I guess he is more marketable and have potential to be on top again, but that's not what sponsors are willing to pay for.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
October 18 2012 14:26 GMT
#568
Would be cool with Liquid / Axiom coop in teamleagues.
HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
October 18 2012 14:26 GMT
#569
On October 18 2012 23:22 Zenic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 23:03 Mirrikh wrote:
On October 18 2012 22:50 Slardar wrote:
MMA hasn't done anything amazing for a long time. At least to the point where I haven't heard of him for months. PuMa is probably better than MMA currently or it would be close.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MMA#Achievements

That proves his point, iron squid was five month ago and since then, we haven't seen anything from him. There are not a lot of people who can be fan favourites without winning tournaments and for the most part MMA is now a random korean. I guess he is more marketable and have potential to be on top again, but that's not what sponsors are willing to pay for.


Sorry but I have to disagree here. MMA's result were quite related to the tensions in the Slayer's house, that is a sure thing. However, the fact that he is otherwise such an accomplished champion make him still very marketable - his skill level might very well quickly rise again to the top of the top. There is 0 reason why this shouldn't happen.
"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
October 18 2012 14:28 GMT
#570
On October 18 2012 23:22 Zenic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 23:03 Mirrikh wrote:
On October 18 2012 22:50 Slardar wrote:
MMA hasn't done anything amazing for a long time. At least to the point where I haven't heard of him for months. PuMa is probably better than MMA currently or it would be close.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MMA#Achievements

That proves his point, iron squid was five month ago and since then, we haven't seen anything from him. There are not a lot of people who can be fan favourites without winning tournaments and for the most part MMA is now a random korean. I guess he is more marketable and have potential to be on top again, but that's not what sponsors are willing to pay for.

Sponsors are willing to pay for whichever player can bring money to them. Most players on EG arent GSL Code A contenders but theyre marketable which is all that matters
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
October 18 2012 14:36 GMT
#571
On October 18 2012 09:18 Fionn wrote:
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On October 18 2012 09:17 Iodem wrote:
AxiomMMA. Why the hell wouldn't he be on the same team as his best bro Crank?


Bros...or cash?

We will see.

I think he has friends in EG. There was a connection between EG and Slayers. And if I remember correctly things went well between him an Thorzain.
OMFGWTF
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada6 Posts
October 18 2012 14:39 GMT
#572
LiquidMMA would be better, second would be AxMMA
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Zenic
Profile Joined October 2010
53 Posts
October 18 2012 14:40 GMT
#573
On October 18 2012 23:26 HonorZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 23:22 Zenic wrote:
On October 18 2012 23:03 Mirrikh wrote:
On October 18 2012 22:50 Slardar wrote:
MMA hasn't done anything amazing for a long time. At least to the point where I haven't heard of him for months. PuMa is probably better than MMA currently or it would be close.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MMA#Achievements

That proves his point, iron squid was five month ago and since then, we haven't seen anything from him. There are not a lot of people who can be fan favourites without winning tournaments and for the most part MMA is now a random korean. I guess he is more marketable and have potential to be on top again, but that's not what sponsors are willing to pay for.


Sorry but I have to disagree here. MMA's result were quite related to the tensions in the Slayer's house, that is a sure thing. However, the fact that he is otherwise such an accomplished champion make him still very marketable - his skill level might very well quickly rise again to the top of the top. There is 0 reason why this shouldn't happen.


The tension may have been the reason or not. If the conditions where really that bad you can assume he is searching for a foreign team for a long time now and nobody was willing to pay him the amount he wanted. Now he needs a new team, so why would anyone pay him the amount, nobody was willing to pay him earlier?

On October 18 2012 23:28 raf3776 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 23:22 Zenic wrote:
On October 18 2012 23:03 Mirrikh wrote:
On October 18 2012 22:50 Slardar wrote:
MMA hasn't done anything amazing for a long time. At least to the point where I haven't heard of him for months. PuMa is probably better than MMA currently or it would be close.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MMA#Achievements

That proves his point, iron squid was five month ago and since then, we haven't seen anything from him. There are not a lot of people who can be fan favourites without winning tournaments and for the most part MMA is now a random korean. I guess he is more marketable and have potential to be on top again, but that's not what sponsors are willing to pay for.

Sponsors are willing to pay for whichever player can bring money to them. Most players on EG arent GSL Code A contenders but theyre marketable which is all that matters

You are right, but there is a reason why they stopped adding koreans to their roster. Maybe I am wrong but Puma and JYP don't seem to be as marketable as the players from the west, at least I haven't seen a lot of them in the last months.
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
October 18 2012 14:45 GMT
#574
On October 18 2012 23:10 Greggle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 14:31 Snijjer wrote:
I dont get why everyone says EG has a monopoly?

LG-IM has 4 GSL champions on its roster!

EG just wants to be the best team in the world - good for them.


If IM were EG they would have waited until each of those won a GSL then bought them. MVP, Nestea and Seed were all part of IM long before any of them from the start (maybe Seed later, I don't know, but he hadn't achieved anything outside the IM tag). MC is just on as a partnership.


If IM were EG they wouldn't have any of those players because they'd be based in NA.
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
October 18 2012 14:45 GMT
#575
On October 18 2012 23:36 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 09:18 Fionn wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:17 Iodem wrote:
AxiomMMA. Why the hell wouldn't he be on the same team as his best bro Crank?


Bros...or cash?

We will see.

I think he has friends in EG. There was a connection between EG and Slayers. And if I remember correctly things went well between him an Thorzain.


yes, and it is even said that he has friends and contacts with EG:

It is said that MMA developed a strong connection to the Evil Geniuses over the course of the partnership, with both management and players, and is his optimal choice for where to go next.


i don't get the "bros or cash" part. Axiom is too new to be able to give MMA a decent salary.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
October 18 2012 14:48 GMT
#576
On October 18 2012 23:39 OMFGWTF wrote:
LiquidMMA would be better, second would be AxMMA


Except like its repeated 100 times every other player pick-up thread Liquid doesn't actually have the pockets like EG to pick up any player they want despite what their fanbois think.
Zenic
Profile Joined October 2010
53 Posts
October 18 2012 14:49 GMT
#577
On October 18 2012 23:45 Hardigan wrote:
i don't get the "bros or cash" part. Axiom is too new to be able to give MMA a decent salary.

I guess its bros or bros, crank or thorzain, maybe they should play for MMA.
Ambtenaar
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands21 Posts
October 18 2012 14:50 GMT
#578
MMA to Axiom, goody to eg :D
v_lm
Profile Joined September 2012
France202 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 14:59:50
October 18 2012 14:58 GMT
#579
On October 18 2012 23:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
If he still has to decide between EG and this axiom thing, then it's more than likely that EG WON'T pay him the millions of dollahs people seem to think they will.


OR MMA's choice is already made but he's trying to push up the bidding, pretending to hesitate to make EG raise the funds.

To be honest MMA is by far the best player of SC2 when he is in great shape.

From october 2011 to march 2012 I think he went undefeated against zerg (that's just crazy when u think about it).

I think it's a great pick for EG no matter how many dollars then spend on it, recruiting such a player is an opportunity which will not occur again.
A friend is someone you know well and still love.
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
October 18 2012 15:04 GMT
#580
On October 18 2012 21:11 Clazziquai10 wrote:
EG might not be the team MMA needs, but it's certainly the team he deserves right now


It's been picking up speed. Maybe Stephano taught them the 12 minute maxout
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