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MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
October 17 2012 15:41 GMT
#801
well I saw this coming during the early Jessica-drama days...

Call me hater, if you like, but search my comments about her tweets and drama, this girl destroyed slayers.

Managers DONT ACT with "feelings" or indecision. They "handle" people and difficult moments. She can't even handle herself.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 15:42:02
October 17 2012 15:41 GMT
#802
Jessica is from the entertainment industry so she's extra sensitive and meticulous about contracts and this sort of stuff. I don't doubt that she's been keeping a ton of records and evidence for every slight she faced in the eSports scene over the past 2 years all for this one moment (you can tell she has just by looking through her old tweets). Should be interesting to see what happens once the eSF gives their side of the story and Jessica refutes it with something from her logs.
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
October 17 2012 15:41 GMT
#803
On October 18 2012 00:40 Arcticc wrote:
I love that the entire statement from Jessica paints a picture of her being the victim in every single scenario.

Otherwise, it's an interesting read. I can only assume the shit storm has just begun.


coach undermines manager and tries to take players away from team. sounds completely believable to me.
twitter.com/haethos
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 15:42:35
October 17 2012 15:42 GMT
#804
'Son of Boxer', my ass. I facepalmed everytime i heard that comment.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45273 Posts
October 17 2012 15:42 GMT
#805
On October 18 2012 00:37 Signum wrote:
Show nested quote +
He was not a good friend with MMA to begin with but since MMA started to perform well, he always came to the studio when MMA played.

Show nested quote +
That's when Crank and MMA hung around alot after that.

Show nested quote +
BoxeR told GanZi painfully that MMA is a cancer to this team at the moment and he wanted to GanZi to make the right decision. GanZi was very lost

Show nested quote +
Ryung never received the highlight because of MMA but he was a good friend of MMA.

Show nested quote +
I felt unsecure about Clide hanging around with MMA.


TLDR: MMA and anyone who ever had a happy thought about MMA killed slayers.

Bitch be maximum crazy.



Jesus. Wasn't MMA by far the most popular and well-received player on SlayerS? With the exception of Boxer himself, MMA seemed to be the reason why so many people liked SlayerS so much. I liked him too. He's the man. Son of Boxer.

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Not a cancer.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#806
I wouldn't normally take Jessica's word alone about the players' attitudes, but considering the few (then) vague remarks Boxer made about the players when he was interviewed after joining T1, it may very well turn out to be the truth.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#807
On October 18 2012 00:41 Asymmetric wrote:
On the flip side....

Alicia
Brown
Cella
CoCa
Genius
Min
Miya
MMA
Puzzle
Ryung
YugiOh

Are now on the market.

Let the player buying feeding frenzy commence!


I will say.

1/3 to LoL

1/4 to foreign teams

1/4 to ESF teams

Rest to retire.
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#808
gg, LoL claims another victim.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#809
On October 18 2012 00:36 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
THe problem with all this is...well what of it is actually true, if u read it like its translated jessica did nothing wrong, is that true? is she lying, who actually knows...well besides the dudes involved.

In the end the team had major issues and now its collapsing. what i find highly disturbing is (if true - could be confirmed with the recording) that people would scream at boxer etc....

oh well i was more sad about ogs cuz there were actually players i could like but slayers always had people who were just "whatever" to me anyway.


It's probably a lot of miscommunication.
We hear stories about how Korean players think foreign players get lots of salary for shitty gameplay and access to foreign tournaments so they look around and are dissatisfied with their own situation (not realizing the many benefits as well).
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
October 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#810
So this is Jessicas final roundhouse kick.
According to her almost everyone (players, teams, organizations) did something bad.

Its all just Jessicas side of the story. I have the feeling she is responsible for a lot of this.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#811
RIP SlayerS
I had a good night of sleep.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#812
Sounds like Jessica has a lot of proof on record which is anything a sensible manager would do. I'm sure both sides had their faults but shame on the players and shame on the ESF for corporate bullying.

As much as that may seem biased, Boxer was the one behind SKT, behind players like oov, Bisu (during his resurgence) and the PL championships. I have difficulty believing that this was mostly his and Jessica's fault. I think ESF put a lot of pressure on Slayers which affected the entire team negatively. Props to Ganzi for dealing with this professionally and although I'm not sold on all of Jessica's decisions in the past, I'm sure she and Boxer did the best they could for this team.

Well, Boxer is back in SKT, in a team that knows his value, his legacy and really appreciates him. With Jessica focusing on other things, I'm sure she'll be able to breathe easier too.

Overall, I'm just a little overwhelmed with how sadly the team ended. I'm pretty sure these players could not survive on the harsher environments of Kespa teams, teams with stricter practice schedules, contract terms and even less free time. MMA may join a foreign team but I doubt he'd reach the same level of success as before.

Still, I hope that somewhere down the road, these relationships at least reach a certain level of reconciliation and despite my feelings about this, I do not know the truth for sure so I wish all the best for the players as well moving forward.

Boxer FIGHTING!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
October 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#813
wowowowowow
so much shit behind the scene in Korea.
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
October 17 2012 15:44 GMT
#814
On October 18 2012 00:42 zyzq wrote:
'Son of Boxer', my ass. I facepalmed everytime i heard that comment.

Lol.
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1923 Posts
October 17 2012 15:45 GMT
#815
On October 18 2012 00:33 sekritzzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 00:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 18 2012 00:20 m4inbrain wrote:
On October 18 2012 00:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 18 2012 00:12 m4inbrain wrote:
On October 18 2012 00:11 GARO wrote:
This is what destroyed Boxer's passion? Disgusting drama?



Guess so. Its understandable though.


"I'm getting too old for this shit" is more like it.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's starting to get burned out. Like someone who's been teaching for 30 years and still has to worry about his students acting like immature, whiny babies.


I actually dont believe its something like "im getting too old for this shit". Boxer (to me) is not the kind of man to tell someone to fuck off for his own sake. Cant really explain what i mean, but i seriously believe that Boxer takes that stuff more seriously than we do, up to a point leading to depression.

He put in 100k of his own money (as i read here), so no, hes not getting too old for this shit.


And he's not leaving the scene either (moving back to SKT T1), so I don't mean that he's going to retire. But I think he's shocked and dismayed (and appropriately so) that these newer players and newly successful players are so disrespectful towards him and others who have put in countless hours to make the scene blossom, considering he's going back to his old team to try and rediscover his passion.

He's probably been hanging around Tasteless too long.

I feel bad for boxer. Took him a decade to reach his stardom and these new kids come in, get their stardom gifted to them on a gold plate and then become ungrateful brats. I don't think Jessica is over reacting I just think its a generation gap with different mentality and work ethics.


I guess this is pretty much the reason... Boy am I sad about all this stuff... Need more intel to evaluate their perspective, but I still don't think they've made it up.
The only real mistake BoxeR and Jessica may have done is to establish SlayerS as "family" rather than just business... And then ungrateful spoiled brats destroy your passion and everything you have put so much effort/money into

And the most hurting part is that this is all affecting the SC-scene/community and even my interest in the game SO HARD. Man, I love SC so much ever since I got involved, but all this shit is pretty tough to bear...
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
October 17 2012 15:45 GMT
#816
On October 18 2012 00:41 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
well I saw this coming during the early Jessica-drama days...

Call me hater, if you like, but search my comments about her tweets and drama, this girl destroyed slayers.

Managers DONT ACT with "feelings" or indecision. They "handle" people and difficult moments. She can't even handle herself.


This.
HallBregg
Profile Joined November 2010
134 Posts
October 17 2012 15:46 GMT
#817
Lol, the worst of all this is that ESF just behaves exactly ly KeSPA...
proves and pilons
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 17 2012 15:46 GMT
#818
On October 18 2012 00:43 Implenia wrote:
gg, LoL claims another victim.


fu this has nothing to do with league
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
October 17 2012 15:46 GMT
#819
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Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
October 17 2012 15:47 GMT
#820
For some reasons I don't "entirely" trust Jessica. Women, especial Korean women, tend to exaggerate and be overly dramatic over the littlest things. I'm sure there are some truths to what she's saying, but anyway I'm skeptical.
Peter, Dang, pm me!!!
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