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On October 23 2012 02:45 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:42 mongmong wrote:On October 23 2012 02:29 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:25 stew_ wrote:
another interview coming up shortly from jessica (source: her twitter) I expect more rage from Jessica... She needs to release the recorded call already. well a transcript of the 58 minute long recording is going to be released. thats why its taking so long What about the actual recording?
I doubt its going to be released.
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On October 23 2012 02:23 Veldril wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:00 Zocat wrote:On October 23 2012 01:38 tMomiji wrote:
I'm just really disappointed that they blame so much on Crank. I can understand wanting to leave an upsetting environment, I honestly hope that MMA joins Axiom along with Ryung and Crank so that they can all be in a better environment together. I just wonder what has happened with Alicia - not because I want to pry, but because he's a player I really like and I hope he will be okay. The problem is how he left. He says "So when I told her that I wanted to leave the team I made sure to tell her that it's not because of money" and "I was preparing to quit my gaming career", and then a short time after he left he suddenly joins a foreign team (which are known to have a lot of money). I personally can easily understand that someone would connect the dots in such a way that he just lied to get out of SlayerS. And I can also understand how some people are angry about such behavior. Such a misunderstanding could've been prevented by him if he contacted SlayerS after the Axiom offer and explained his change of mind. But he apparently didnt care what SlayerS thought of him, or the relationship was too bad to have such a talk - I dont know (it could even be the case they had such a talk which wasnt fruitful). Well, Axion did not exist when he left Slayers so it's not possible for him to get an offer from Axiom. + Show Spoiler +In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if someone said Axiom was formed because TB/Genna heard how bad Korean players are treated from Crank (although, this is just pure speculation. I am sure that TB has more resource than that).
So I would say that his mistake was to stream after leave Slayers house and try to find a foreign team before officially leave the team.
Well, that wasnt really my point, maybe I misworded.
Timeline:
1. He left saying he doesnt care about money & wants to quit the game.
2. He starts streaming & looking for a foreign team.
3. He joins Axiom
I think he should've talked to SlayerS somewhere between point 1-2 and 2-3 to avoid the drama. But especially before 3. Sure he is allowed to change his mind, but him looking for a foreign team (see Shival's pictures) and joining one, after his statement (1) seems kinda fishy. And I understand how people (Jessica & co) think he was lying.
On October 23 2012 02:05 Ansinjunger wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 00:39 Zocat wrote:On October 23 2012 00:22 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 23 2012 00:02 S_SienZ wrote:
Sounds like a misunderstanding between Crank and Jessica since MMA Ryung and Alicia were being divas and Crank's reassurance that he wasnt leaving for the money. If only he clarified with Jessica before advertising for a team a big chunk of this drama could've been avoided. I don't get how people are still holding onto this "diva" business after Crank's statement, at least with regards to MMA, and I have no idea how it even began @ Ryung. You mean Crank's statement where he said the top players slacked and didnt gave a shit? He didn't say that, he said MMA, Alicia, and Ryung had problems with the team, aka, with how the team was being run (or not run, as it were). + Show Spoiler +Crank mediated and was told to blame the players and they rightly found that unfair. I'm sure the players deserve some of the blame. For example, three players sneaked out to play LoL. That would be an actual example of "bad atmosphere," though I don't find that a big deal, and apparently Jessica didn't either, as her crusade has been directed at those whom she thinks disrespected her, and there is likely some truth to that, such as Crank's own admission regarding the phone call. I don't doubt that Jessica and Boxer are especially disappointed as this team was their investment, and that is likely part of the reason she is able to feel justified doing all this. However, for her to abdicate all blame is wrong, especially as she is the manager. Blaming her former players as she has done has been particularly vile and dishonest, given how she has taken no responsibility herself. On October 23 2012 01:50 Cuce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 01:36 FXOUnstable wrote:On October 23 2012 01:27 Hardigan wrote:On October 23 2012 01:16 Swords wrote:
When a sports team, be it esports or real sports, has the kinds of problems SlayerS evidently did it really seems silly to assign blame. For things to go as poorly as they apparently did everyone is to blame - top to bottom - the players, the management, the coaches, the owners.
This public smear campaign has not done anyone any favors, except for revealing eSF trying to pull some KeSPA-like actions. This is a good thing, but Jessica's seeming attempts to place blame on the players is misguided. If the atmosphere in the SlayerS house had been good we wouldn't see players being punished as their teammates would help keep them in line. We wouldn't see a mass exodus of SlayerS players to other teams as with Sleep, Golden, Dragon, Taeja, and Ganzi.
I just wish this team had been allowed to die in the dignified fashion it deserved. Right now everyone's name is being dragged through the mud as they all blame each other. If they could just share the blame, as there's plenty of it to go around, everything would be so much easier. the problem is, if Jessica wouldn't have said something, everybody would blame her for Slayer's disbanding. So she did what probably most Korean would have done: trying to save your face. The issue with this is that she was the owner of the team, in the end she has no one to blame but herself. It was her responsibility to make sure that things were getting done in a proper fashion, players not practicing? make sure they do or remove them. Having someone else handle the sponsorship negotiations? Should always get regular reports and updates and make sure things are going well, if they arent, step in and do it yourself. She can try to save face all she wants but blaming others as to why her team went under only shows that she wasn't suitable for the position in the first place. ok I get how its jessicas responsibility to keep the team up and running, and yes disbandin is her fault. but this does not get everyone else clear of fault. That's hardly what he says, other than "no one to blame but herself." But I doubt he really meant that 100%. The point is that that completely contrasts with reality, where Jessica is blaming every but herself.
"As tournament days came closer, players stopped practicing proper hours and didn't follow their schedule"
If that's not slacking I dont know.
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I don't get it, what is Jessica trying to accomplish?... is she out for money? revenge? justice?
I just don't get what is her motive.
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On October 23 2012 02:31 felisconcolori wrote:
So, am I the only one that thinks today's XKCD comic may be especially fitting for not only this thread, but a lot of threads lately?
you might link to it at least 
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On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote:
What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying.
He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_-
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On October 23 2012 02:47 Zocat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:23 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 02:00 Zocat wrote:On October 23 2012 01:38 tMomiji wrote:
I'm just really disappointed that they blame so much on Crank. I can understand wanting to leave an upsetting environment, I honestly hope that MMA joins Axiom along with Ryung and Crank so that they can all be in a better environment together. I just wonder what has happened with Alicia - not because I want to pry, but because he's a player I really like and I hope he will be okay. The problem is how he left. He says "So when I told her that I wanted to leave the team I made sure to tell her that it's not because of money" and "I was preparing to quit my gaming career", and then a short time after he left he suddenly joins a foreign team (which are known to have a lot of money). I personally can easily understand that someone would connect the dots in such a way that he just lied to get out of SlayerS. And I can also understand how some people are angry about such behavior. Such a misunderstanding could've been prevented by him if he contacted SlayerS after the Axiom offer and explained his change of mind. But he apparently didnt care what SlayerS thought of him, or the relationship was too bad to have such a talk - I dont know (it could even be the case they had such a talk which wasnt fruitful). Well, Axion did not exist when he left Slayers so it's not possible for him to get an offer from Axiom. + Show Spoiler +In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if someone said Axiom was formed because TB/Genna heard how bad Korean players are treated from Crank (although, this is just pure speculation. I am sure that TB has more resource than that).
So I would say that his mistake was to stream after leave Slayers house and try to find a foreign team before officially leave the team. Well, that wasnt really my point, maybe I misworded. Timeline: 1. He left saying he doesnt care about money & wants to quit the game. 2. He starts streaming & looking for a foreign team. 3. He joins Axiom I think he should've talked to SlayerS somewhere between point 1-2 and 2-3 to avoid the drama. But especially before 3. Sure he is allowed to change his mind, but him looking for a foreign team (see Shival's pictures) and joining one, after his statement (1) seems kinda fishy. And I understand how people (Jessica & co) think he was lying. Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:05 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 23 2012 00:39 Zocat wrote:On October 23 2012 00:22 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 23 2012 00:02 S_SienZ wrote:
Sounds like a misunderstanding between Crank and Jessica since MMA Ryung and Alicia were being divas and Crank's reassurance that he wasnt leaving for the money. If only he clarified with Jessica before advertising for a team a big chunk of this drama could've been avoided. I don't get how people are still holding onto this "diva" business after Crank's statement, at least with regards to MMA, and I have no idea how it even began @ Ryung. You mean Crank's statement where he said the top players slacked and didnt gave a shit? He didn't say that, he said MMA, Alicia, and Ryung had problems with the team, aka, with how the team was being run (or not run, as it were). + Show Spoiler +Crank mediated and was told to blame the players and they rightly found that unfair. I'm sure the players deserve some of the blame. For example, three players sneaked out to play LoL. That would be an actual example of "bad atmosphere," though I don't find that a big deal, and apparently Jessica didn't either, as her crusade has been directed at those whom she thinks disrespected her, and there is likely some truth to that, such as Crank's own admission regarding the phone call. I don't doubt that Jessica and Boxer are especially disappointed as this team was their investment, and that is likely part of the reason she is able to feel justified doing all this. However, for her to abdicate all blame is wrong, especially as she is the manager. Blaming her former players as she has done has been particularly vile and dishonest, given how she has taken no responsibility herself. On October 23 2012 01:50 Cuce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 01:36 FXOUnstable wrote:On October 23 2012 01:27 Hardigan wrote:On October 23 2012 01:16 Swords wrote:
When a sports team, be it esports or real sports, has the kinds of problems SlayerS evidently did it really seems silly to assign blame. For things to go as poorly as they apparently did everyone is to blame - top to bottom - the players, the management, the coaches, the owners.
This public smear campaign has not done anyone any favors, except for revealing eSF trying to pull some KeSPA-like actions. This is a good thing, but Jessica's seeming attempts to place blame on the players is misguided. If the atmosphere in the SlayerS house had been good we wouldn't see players being punished as their teammates would help keep them in line. We wouldn't see a mass exodus of SlayerS players to other teams as with Sleep, Golden, Dragon, Taeja, and Ganzi.
I just wish this team had been allowed to die in the dignified fashion it deserved. Right now everyone's name is being dragged through the mud as they all blame each other. If they could just share the blame, as there's plenty of it to go around, everything would be so much easier. the problem is, if Jessica wouldn't have said something, everybody would blame her for Slayer's disbanding. So she did what probably most Korean would have done: trying to save your face. The issue with this is that she was the owner of the team, in the end she has no one to blame but herself. It was her responsibility to make sure that things were getting done in a proper fashion, players not practicing? make sure they do or remove them. Having someone else handle the sponsorship negotiations? Should always get regular reports and updates and make sure things are going well, if they arent, step in and do it yourself. She can try to save face all she wants but blaming others as to why her team went under only shows that she wasn't suitable for the position in the first place. ok I get how its jessicas responsibility to keep the team up and running, and yes disbandin is her fault. but this does not get everyone else clear of fault. That's hardly what he says, other than "no one to blame but herself." But I doubt he really meant that 100%. The point is that that completely contrasts with reality, where Jessica is blaming every but herself. "As tournament days came closer, players stopped practicing proper hours and didn't follow their schedule" If that's not slacking I dont know.
Exactly, it's called bad communication...so sad...
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now that i've read mma's interview... the only sound statement to make here is that manager j is a real asshat. as for crank/mma/alicia, will need to monitor situation further
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On October 23 2012 02:50 stew_ wrote:
now that i've read mma's interview... the only sound statement to make here is that manager j is a real asshat. as for crank/mma/alicia, will need to monitor situation further
Pretty much. Like I said, what he did was stupid, it wasn't malicious. Everyone is stupid sometimes.
But am I the only one disturbed by Jessica threatening Alicia? "You better stop lying before what you really did wrong comes to light"?
Uh, maybe I'm overreacting, but isn't that technically blackmail?
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On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote:
What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_-
Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead.
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On October 23 2012 02:50 tMomiji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:50 stew_ wrote:
now that i've read mma's interview... the only sound statement to make here is that manager j is a real asshat. as for crank/mma/alicia, will need to monitor situation further Pretty much. Like I said, what he did was stupid, it wasn't malicious. Everyone is stupid sometimes. But am I the only one disturbed by Jessica threatening Alicia? "You better stop lying before what you really did wrong comes to light"? Uh, maybe I'm overreacting, but isn't that technically blackmail?
Blackmail is a crime involving unjustified threats to make a gain or cause loss to another unless a demand is met.
Keyword: unjustified
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On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote:
What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead.
I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication.
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On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote:
What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_-
Yeah.. I feel a lot of sympathy for Crank yo
Telling the owner of the team that he is going to quit and then
starts streaming to look for a foreign team....
Btw it is called "lying" . not it "looks like lying"
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Jessica is literally the worst thing that has ever happened in Starcraft. I can't believe anybody would look at this situation and blame anything else. Drama follows her everywhere, straight up. It's constant. She has a problem with everyone and everything, but you notice how everyone else has a problem with her? Nobody likes her, nobody can cooperate with her. This is terrible for the game and ESPORTS. I just hope this is the last that we hear of her.
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On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote:
What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication.
Do you understand the definition of lying?
You can't just do something completely different from what you claimed you'll do and then call it "changing your mind". If that were the case everybody could just claim they changed their mind when caught lying.
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On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote:
What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication.
So Crank cant even make it clear that he is going to look for a foreign team?
is that why he just said he was gonna take a rest at home????
wow
just wow
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it looks much more like, getting out of contract so he can get in another team withouth transfer fee than changing his mind.
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Money, the problem was , is and will be always MONEY.
SC2 isn't interesting enough to attract big sponsor... so teams will switch or die 1 by 1.
2013 will be the great fall and 2014 BW will probably rise from its ashes, when blizzard will acknowledge his fail and will create a new official custom map for tournaments, SC2 BW OFFICIAL.
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On October 23 2012 02:57 lambac0re wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:50 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:50 stew_ wrote:
now that i've read mma's interview... the only sound statement to make here is that manager j is a real asshat. as for crank/mma/alicia, will need to monitor situation further Pretty much. Like I said, what he did was stupid, it wasn't malicious. Everyone is stupid sometimes. But am I the only one disturbed by Jessica threatening Alicia? "You better stop lying before what you really did wrong comes to light"? Uh, maybe I'm overreacting, but isn't that technically blackmail? Blackmail is a crime involving unjustified threats to make a gain or cause loss to another unless a demand is met. Keyword: unjustified
Overreacting it is, then.
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On October 23 2012 03:01 Quesadilla wrote:
Jessica is literally the worst thing that has ever happened in Starcraft. I can't believe anybody would look at this situation and blame anything else. Drama follows her everywhere, straight up. It's constant. She has a problem with everyone and everything, but you notice how everyone else has a problem with her? Nobody likes her, nobody can cooperate with her. This is terrible for the game and ESPORTS. I just hope this is the last that we hear of her.
pls inform yourself first before you make a statement like that
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On October 23 2012 03:05 dragonsuper wrote:
Money, the problem was , is and will be always MONEY.
SC2 isn't interesting enough to attract big sponsor... so teams will switch or die 1 by 1.
2013 will be the great fall and 2014 BW will probably rise from its ashes, when blizzard will acknowledge his fail and will create a new official custom map for tournaments, SC2 BW OFFICIAL.
wait... what?
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