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On October 23 2012 03:03 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote:
What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication. So Crank cant even make it clear that he is going to look for a foreign team? is that why he just said he was gonna take a rest at home???? wow just wow
Before he said that he was going to take a rest at home he already changed his twitter ID, editing out Slayers. That was before the RO4 in the GSTL, and also a couple days before he left the team. If that by itself doesn't say enough... His excuse of taking a rest at home is already a lie.
Not to mention that he told Cella to keep it a secret from Jessica that he wasn't going to train for the RO4.
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Why are they even disbanding?
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On October 23 2012 03:07 Olsson wrote:
Why are they even disbanding?
more like why did they implode
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On October 23 2012 03:06 Shival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:03 mongmong wrote:On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote:
What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication. So Crank cant even make it clear that he is going to look for a foreign team? is that why he just said he was gonna take a rest at home???? wow just wow Before he said that he was going to take a rest at home he already changed his twitter ID, editing out Slayers. That was before the RO4 in the GSTL, and also a couple days before he left the team. If that by itself doesn't say enough... His excuse of taking a rest at home is already a lie. Not to mention that he told Cella to keep it a secret from Jessica that he wasn't going to train for the RO4.
All that meant is that he wanted to leave. He already said that he wanted to leave...and I do not blame him.
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On October 23 2012 03:06 tMomiji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:57 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 02:50 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:50 stew_ wrote:
now that i've read mma's interview... the only sound statement to make here is that manager j is a real asshat. as for crank/mma/alicia, will need to monitor situation further Pretty much. Like I said, what he did was stupid, it wasn't malicious. Everyone is stupid sometimes. But am I the only one disturbed by Jessica threatening Alicia? "You better stop lying before what you really did wrong comes to light"? Uh, maybe I'm overreacting, but isn't that technically blackmail? Blackmail is a crime involving unjustified threats to make a gain or cause loss to another unless a demand is met. Keyword: unjustified Overreacting it is, then.
Depends on what Alicia did, don't you agree?
One could also say that it is kind of Jessica to keep it out of the public if it's something really damning.
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On October 23 2012 03:06 tMomiji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:57 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 02:50 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:50 stew_ wrote:
now that i've read mma's interview... the only sound statement to make here is that manager j is a real asshat. as for crank/mma/alicia, will need to monitor situation further Pretty much. Like I said, what he did was stupid, it wasn't malicious. Everyone is stupid sometimes. But am I the only one disturbed by Jessica threatening Alicia? "You better stop lying before what you really did wrong comes to light"? Uh, maybe I'm overreacting, but isn't that technically blackmail? Blackmail is a crime involving unjustified threats to make a gain or cause loss to another unless a demand is met. Keyword: unjustified Overreacting it is, then.
...deleted post for misunderstanding...
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On October 23 2012 03:08 tMomiji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:06 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 03:03 mongmong wrote:On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:
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Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication. So Crank cant even make it clear that he is going to look for a foreign team? is that why he just said he was gonna take a rest at home???? wow just wow Before he said that he was going to take a rest at home he already changed his twitter ID, editing out Slayers. That was before the RO4 in the GSTL, and also a couple days before he left the team. If that by itself doesn't say enough... His excuse of taking a rest at home is already a lie. Not to mention that he told Cella to keep it a secret from Jessica that he wasn't going to train for the RO4. All that meant is that he wanted to leave. He already said that he wanted to leave...and I do not blame him.
Indeed, so the statement that he wanted to take a rest at home was a lie?
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On October 23 2012 03:09 Shival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:06 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:57 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 02:50 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:50 stew_ wrote:
now that i've read mma's interview... the only sound statement to make here is that manager j is a real asshat. as for crank/mma/alicia, will need to monitor situation further Pretty much. Like I said, what he did was stupid, it wasn't malicious. Everyone is stupid sometimes. But am I the only one disturbed by Jessica threatening Alicia? "You better stop lying before what you really did wrong comes to light"? Uh, maybe I'm overreacting, but isn't that technically blackmail? Blackmail is a crime involving unjustified threats to make a gain or cause loss to another unless a demand is met. Keyword: unjustified Overreacting it is, then. Depends on what Alicia did, don't you agree? One could also say that it is kind of Jessica to keep it out of the public if it's something really damning.
I meant I was overreacting when I called it blackmail, haha. Like I said I'm a fan of Alicia's so I'm kind of biased towards him.
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Can anyone who knows Korean gives us a gist of what MMA says in his interview? Would very much appreciate it 
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On October 23 2012 03:02 lambac0re wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote:
What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication. Do you understand the definition of lying? You can't just do something completely different from what you claimed you'll do and then call it "changing your mind". If that were the case everybody could just claim they changed their mind when caught lying.
There's different though. Lying means you intentionally say something while have other intention since the beginning. Changing the mind afterward could not really be said as "lying", although it looks equally bad.
So unless you can prove his intention at the point where he told Jessica that he wanted to look for foreign team, you cannot said it is definitely lying. You can only said that he might lie to her. However, if you said that he is wrong because he changed his mind without inform Jessica first, then it's totally justified.
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Is there a translation of the MMA interview somewhere? Skimmed throught the last pages, didn't find it
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On October 23 2012 03:09 lambac0re wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:06 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:57 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 02:50 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:50 stew_ wrote:
now that i've read mma's interview... the only sound statement to make here is that manager j is a real asshat. as for crank/mma/alicia, will need to monitor situation further Pretty much. Like I said, what he did was stupid, it wasn't malicious. Everyone is stupid sometimes. But am I the only one disturbed by Jessica threatening Alicia? "You better stop lying before what you really did wrong comes to light"? Uh, maybe I'm overreacting, but isn't that technically blackmail? Blackmail is a crime involving unjustified threats to make a gain or cause loss to another unless a demand is met. Keyword: unjustified Overreacting it is, then. ...deleted post for misunderstanding...
That's okay, don't worry about it~!
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On October 23 2012 03:10 Veldril wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:02 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote:
What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication. Do you understand the definition of lying? You can't just do something completely different from what you claimed you'll do and then call it "changing your mind". If that were the case everybody could just claim they changed their mind when caught lying. There's different though. Lying means you intentionally say something while have other intention since the beginning. Changing the mind afterward could not really be said as "lying", although it looks equally bad. So unless you can prove his intention at the point where he told Jessica that he wanted to look for foreign team, you cannot said it is definitely lying. You can only said that he might lie to her. However, if you said that he is wrong because he changed his mind without inform Jessica first, then it's totally justified.
If this is the case, it's his duty to inform his team of his new intentions.
Instead he proceeded to look for a new team while letting his old team believe his old intentions.
Same as lying sorry.
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On October 23 2012 03:10 Veldril wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:02 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote:
What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication. Do you understand the definition of lying? You can't just do something completely different from what you claimed you'll do and then call it "changing your mind". If that were the case everybody could just claim they changed their mind when caught lying. There's different though. Lying means you intentionally say something while have other intention since the beginning. Changing the mind afterward could not really be said as "lying", although it looks equally bad. So unless you can prove his intention at the point where he told Jessica that he wanted to look for foreign team, you cannot said it is definitely lying. You can only said that he might lie to her. However, if you said that he is wrong because he changed his mind without inform Jessica first, then it's totally justified.
And there you go. I'd prefer to think the best of Crank, honestly. Do these kids need any more crap thrown at them? x-x
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On October 23 2012 03:12 lambac0re wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:10 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 03:02 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:
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Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication. Do you understand the definition of lying? You can't just do something completely different from what you claimed you'll do and then call it "changing your mind". If that were the case everybody could just claim they changed their mind when caught lying. There's different though. Lying means you intentionally say something while have other intention since the beginning. Changing the mind afterward could not really be said as "lying", although it looks equally bad. So unless you can prove his intention at the point where he told Jessica that he wanted to look for foreign team, you cannot said it is definitely lying. You can only said that he might lie to her. However, if you said that he is wrong because he changed his mind without inform Jessica first, then it's totally justified. If this is the case, it's his duty to inform his team of his new intentions. Instead he proceeded to look for a new team while letting his old team believe his old intentions. Same as lying sorry.
One could define it as that, yes, but I can understand why he did it. See what happened? He wanted to avoid that but it blew up in his face. I think, though, that this would have happened either way...
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On October 23 2012 03:08 stew_ wrote:more like why did they implode
more like WHY CAN'T I STOP READING THIS THREAD lol
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On October 23 2012 03:11 ACrow wrote:
Is there a translation of the MMA interview somewhere? Skimmed throught the last pages, didn't find it
It's quite long, I imagine it will take a little while to translate. Poor translators have double-duty recently!
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On October 23 2012 03:12 lambac0re wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:10 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 03:02 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:
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Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication. Do you understand the definition of lying? You can't just do something completely different from what you claimed you'll do and then call it "changing your mind". If that were the case everybody could just claim they changed their mind when caught lying. There's different though. Lying means you intentionally say something while have other intention since the beginning. Changing the mind afterward could not really be said as "lying", although it looks equally bad. So unless you can prove his intention at the point where he told Jessica that he wanted to look for foreign team, you cannot said it is definitely lying. You can only said that he might lie to her. However, if you said that he is wrong because he changed his mind without inform Jessica first, then it's totally justified. If this is the case, it's his duty to inform his team of his new intentions. Instead he proceeded to look for a new team while letting his old team believe his old intentions. Same as lying sorry.
It was no longer his team, lol. She told him "do what you want." And besides, did you notice how Jessica used the neck injury excuse, and then used that against Crank later, as if it was his lie from the beginning?
TIG> It's publicly known that you left the team due to your injury.
Crank: When I was leaving the team, Jessica told me that she will release an article for me but I thought "me leaving the team isn't worthy of a press conference." But I was told that there is a new player joining us. She told me she will say I left the team due to my neck injury, and she will work her best to stop any weird rumors from spreading around. And now she is saying that I used my neck injury as an excuse to look for a foreign team. I never thought she would do that.
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On October 23 2012 03:15 Ansinjunger wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:12 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 03:10 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 03:02 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:48 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:
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Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. He wasn't, but he changed his mind very quickly, as is stated in the interview. He felt alone, so he started to look for one. I can see how that looks like lying and it doesn't make you look very good, and yes he should have TOLD them after the change of mind took place. But people calling him a pathological liar? Seriously?? -_- Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication. Do you understand the definition of lying? You can't just do something completely different from what you claimed you'll do and then call it "changing your mind". If that were the case everybody could just claim they changed their mind when caught lying. There's different though. Lying means you intentionally say something while have other intention since the beginning. Changing the mind afterward could not really be said as "lying", although it looks equally bad. So unless you can prove his intention at the point where he told Jessica that he wanted to look for foreign team, you cannot said it is definitely lying. You can only said that he might lie to her. However, if you said that he is wrong because he changed his mind without inform Jessica first, then it's totally justified. If this is the case, it's his duty to inform his team of his new intentions. Instead he proceeded to look for a new team while letting his old team believe his old intentions. Same as lying sorry. It was no longer his team, lol. She told him "do what you want." And besides, did you notice how Jessica used the neck injury excuse, and then used that against Crank later, as if it was his lie from the beginning? Show nested quote +
TIG> It's publicly known that you left the team due to your injury.
Crank: When I was leaving the team, Jessica told me that she will release an article for me but I thought "me leaving the team isn't worthy of a press conference." But I was told that there is a new player joining us. She told me she will say I left the team due to my neck injury, and she will work her best to stop any weird rumors from spreading around. And now she is saying that I used my neck injury as an excuse to look for a foreign team. I never thought she would do that.
Uhm no. Jessica specifically released him for neck injuries. He instead used this golden opportunity to do a little team shopping.
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