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On October 21 2012 10:36 TotalBiscuit wrote:
To answer some baseless scepticism.
We are not releasing the statement yet because there are detailed Korean articles coming out on Sunday evening which give exceptional insight into the whole situation from the perspectives of CranK and MMA. Releasing a statement now and then having some random person translate it into Korean could result in all manner of problems. Biased translators exist and when it comes to Boxer he is a sacred cow that can do no wrong. I'd also like to add that CranK required a great deal of convincing to speak publicly about his issue. He has no desire to talk ill of anyone but his hand was forced by people who have no such qualms.
Also, it's my 5 year wedding anniversary and I would have really liked to spend it with my wife not dealing with Korean drama, but it was not to be. Whoop-de-doo.
Hope you all can resolve this issue soon and maybe have an extended wedding anniversary celebration or something to relax and have some time for one another.
Personally i'm actually quite surprised you'd be responding beyond what is required (e.g. Crank is releasing a statement and the reasons for the delay), considering you probably already know how the internet mob is like haha. But i guess maybe love for esports might be a strong motivator
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On October 21 2012 10:48 Weirdkid wrote:
Hope you all can resolve this issue soon and maybe have an extended wedding anniversary celebration or something to relax and have some time for one another.
Personally i'm actually quite surprised you'd be responding beyond what is required (e.g. Crank is releasing a statement and the reasons for the delay), considering you probably already know how the internet mob is like haha. But i guess maybe love for esports might be a strong motivator
I love eSports and hate dumb people. Potent cocktail. We tried to just do the whole "he's going to release a statement" and got accused of PR bullshit and deliberately timing the statement so Jessica couldn't respond to it. Yeah, that's the community in a nutshell when it comes to dealing with drama. Nice people, until this kind of thing happens then they become sharks.
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On October 21 2012 10:07 Fearest wrote:
I hate how people discredit Jessica for the success of Slayers. Boxers is a great guy, and a good player/coach, but he's not the management type. Without Jessica, I don't think Slayers would have been formed.
I think the downfall has more to do with Jessica being a woman running a team. All the other teams will make life difficult for her, and they got their bullying ways. Male domination is very strong in asian countries.
Sexism shouldn't even be brought up about how she isn't even strong. Jessica has shown how tough she is with the past that she will fight for what she believes in. If anything it is because Jessica doesn't know much about the whole esports industry and how shady businesses can be the higher up you are.
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On October 21 2012 10:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 10:48 Weirdkid wrote:
Hope you all can resolve this issue soon and maybe have an extended wedding anniversary celebration or something to relax and have some time for one another.
Personally i'm actually quite surprised you'd be responding beyond what is required (e.g. Crank is releasing a statement and the reasons for the delay), considering you probably already know how the internet mob is like haha. But i guess maybe love for esports might be a strong motivator I love eSports and hate dumb people. Potent cocktail. We tried to just do the whole "he's going to release a statement" and got accused of PR bullshit and deliberately timing the statement so Jessica couldn't respond to it. Yeah, that's the community in a nutshell when it comes to dealing with drama. Nice people, until this kind of thing happens then they become sharks.
You're part of that community. And iirc, you did not just do "he's going to release a statement". You actually said Axiom is releasing a statement, and then you wonder why you get accused of PR-shit? Come on. If you just have said "he's preparing his statement right now", everything would be fine. Theres no need to set a time or stuff, everyone here would have seen it anyways even without date, etc.
In the end, people are behaving the same way you expected them to behave about Jessica (seems to be not that good of a feeling). Guess its just fair.
On a different note, sorry to hear about the anniversary, but then again, you could have chosen your wife above further discussing the matter.
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On October 21 2012 11:00 m4inbrain wrote:
You're part of that community. And iirc, you did not just do "he's going to release a statement". You actually said Axiom is releasing a statement, and then you wonder why you get accused of PR-shit?
Are you serious? No really, are you serious?
You realize he's on my damn team right? I...
No I'm sorry I can't deal with how crazy illogical what you just said is. I can't even make sense of your accusation it's so damn alien.
Are you suggesting teams should not release statements about their players? I don't even know what you're trying to bitch about at this point.
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On October 21 2012 11:04 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 11:00 m4inbrain wrote:
You're part of that community. And iirc, you did not just do "he's going to release a statement". You actually said Axiom is releasing a statement, and then you wonder why you get accused of PR-shit? Are you serious? No really, are you serious? You realize he's on my damn team right? I... No I'm sorry I can't deal with how crazy illogical what you just said is.
This community proves time and time again it's a piece of shit & it keeps showing how stupid they are, it's pathetic. No wonder why community figures don't read forums like TL anymore.
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why don't we just thank TB and staff for putting forth the effort?
there will be another side of the story as soon as it's ready. it is an emotional and stressful situation for everyone involved.
going full keyboard warrior for now is arguing for the sake of arguing
honestly, there is this hefty standard of entitlement floating around in the community these days.
let the stubborn idiots be idiots sometimes... please.
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On October 21 2012 11:04 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 11:00 m4inbrain wrote:
You're part of that community. And iirc, you did not just do "he's going to release a statement". You actually said Axiom is releasing a statement, and then you wonder why you get accused of PR-shit? Are you serious? No really, are you serious? You realize he's on my damn team right? I... No I'm sorry I can't deal with how crazy illogical what you just said is. I can't even make sense of your accusation it's so damn alien. Are you suggesting teams should not release statements about their players? I don't even know what you're trying to bitch about at this point.
So what stopped you from actually saying "he is releasing a statement soon"? Because by the looks of it, you actually wanted to say that (otherwise you would not have said it 2 postings earlier). Doesnt make sense to me. Of course you get accused of PR bullshit. Also, you don't even seem to get that there was no accusation from my side, but an explanation why you get accused of stuff like that. I actually want you to show me where i accused you of something.
Maybe take a cold shower and read again. But its easier to just leash out, right? Because everybody is evil and just wants to.. i dont even know what you think, and don't care.
Also, that he is on your team, does not make any difference. I can't remember seeing SK or Startale putting statements out, but that might be a mistake on my end, but cant be bothered to check that.
Edit: but to be clear, im looking forward to that statement. I just hope that you make it watertight, because Jessica seems to be out for blood.
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On October 21 2012 11:15 m4inbrain wrote:
So what stopped you from actually saying "he is releasing a statement soon"? Because by the looks of it, you actually wanted to say that (otherwise you would not have said it 2 postings earlier). Doesnt make sense to me. Of course you get accused of PR bullshit. Also, you don't even seem to get that there was no accusation from my side, but an explanation why you get accused of stuff like that. I actually want you to show me where i accused you of something.
Maybe take a cold shower and read again. But its easier to just leash out, right? Because everybody is evil and just wants to.. i dont even know what you think, and don't care.
Also, that he is on your team, does not make any difference. I can't remember seeing SK or Startale putting statements out, but that might be a mistake on my end, but cant be bothered to check that.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16605293
Please stop talking now, you don't know anything and it shows.
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On October 21 2012 11:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 11:15 m4inbrain wrote:
So what stopped you from actually saying "he is releasing a statement soon"? Because by the looks of it, you actually wanted to say that (otherwise you would not have said it 2 postings earlier). Doesnt make sense to me. Of course you get accused of PR bullshit. Also, you don't even seem to get that there was no accusation from my side, but an explanation why you get accused of stuff like that. I actually want you to show me where i accused you of something.
Maybe take a cold shower and read again. But its easier to just leash out, right? Because everybody is evil and just wants to.. i dont even know what you think, and don't care.
Also, that he is on your team, does not make any difference. I can't remember seeing SK or Startale putting statements out, but that might be a mistake on my end, but cant be bothered to check that. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16605293Please stop talking now, you don't know anything and it shows.
Statement from Axiom will be released Sunday night Korean time in English. Expect in-depth Korean articles on the subject at that time.
Yeah, right. I didn't even see the first posting. Didn't need to, because the last pages are full of that PR-accusations. Edit: Don't know how much of these accusations happened 20 pages ago, but the ones i saw were after that statement, even quoted. So i guess its partly my fault, sorry for that. Still, that posting is misleading.
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On October 21 2012 11:22 m4inbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 11:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 21 2012 11:15 m4inbrain wrote:
So what stopped you from actually saying "he is releasing a statement soon"? Because by the looks of it, you actually wanted to say that (otherwise you would not have said it 2 postings earlier). Doesnt make sense to me. Of course you get accused of PR bullshit. Also, you don't even seem to get that there was no accusation from my side, but an explanation why you get accused of stuff like that. I actually want you to show me where i accused you of something.
Maybe take a cold shower and read again. But its easier to just leash out, right? Because everybody is evil and just wants to.. i dont even know what you think, and don't care.
Also, that he is on your team, does not make any difference. I can't remember seeing SK or Startale putting statements out, but that might be a mistake on my end, but cant be bothered to check that. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16605293Please stop talking now, you don't know anything and it shows. Show nested quote +
Statement from Axiom will be released Sunday night Korean time in English. Expect in-depth Korean articles on the subject at that time.
Yeah, right. I didn't even see the first posting. Didn't need to, because the last pages are full of that PR-accusations.
You should stop posting because you're embarrassing yourself.
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On October 21 2012 11:22 m4inbrain wrote:
Yeah, right. I didn't even see the first posting. Didn't need to
Evidently you did because then you wouldn't have looked like an idiot.
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On October 21 2012 11:15 m4inbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 11:04 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 21 2012 11:00 m4inbrain wrote:
You're part of that community. And iirc, you did not just do "he's going to release a statement". You actually said Axiom is releasing a statement, and then you wonder why you get accused of PR-shit? Are you serious? No really, are you serious? You realize he's on my damn team right? I... No I'm sorry I can't deal with how crazy illogical what you just said is. I can't even make sense of your accusation it's so damn alien. Are you suggesting teams should not release statements about their players? I don't even know what you're trying to bitch about at this point. So what stopped you from actually saying "he is releasing a statement soon"? Because by the looks of it, you actually wanted to say that (otherwise you would not have said it 2 postings earlier). Doesnt make sense to me. Of course you get accused of PR bullshit. Also, you don't even seem to get that there was no accusation from my side, but an explanation why you get accused of stuff like that. I actually want you to show me where i accused you of something. Maybe take a cold shower and read again. But its easier to just leash out, right? Because everybody is evil and just wants to.. i dont even know what you think, and don't care. Also, that he is on your team, does not make any difference. I can't remember seeing SK or Startale putting statements out, but that might be a mistake on my end, but cant be bothered to check that. Edit: but to be clear, im looking forward to that statement. I just hope that you make it watertight, because Jessica seems to be out for blood.
What the hell's wrong with you?
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On October 21 2012 11:22 m4inbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 11:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 21 2012 11:15 m4inbrain wrote:
So what stopped you from actually saying "he is releasing a statement soon"? Because by the looks of it, you actually wanted to say that (otherwise you would not have said it 2 postings earlier). Doesnt make sense to me. Of course you get accused of PR bullshit. Also, you don't even seem to get that there was no accusation from my side, but an explanation why you get accused of stuff like that. I actually want you to show me where i accused you of something.
Maybe take a cold shower and read again. But its easier to just leash out, right? Because everybody is evil and just wants to.. i dont even know what you think, and don't care.
Also, that he is on your team, does not make any difference. I can't remember seeing SK or Startale putting statements out, but that might be a mistake on my end, but cant be bothered to check that. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16605293Please stop talking now, you don't know anything and it shows. Show nested quote +
Statement from Axiom will be released Sunday night Korean time in English. Expect in-depth Korean articles on the subject at that time.
Yeah, right. I didn't even see the first posting. Didn't need to, because the last pages are full of that PR-accusations. Edit: Don't know how much of these accusations happened 20 pages ago, but the ones i saw were after that statement, even quoted. So i guess its partly my fault, sorry for that. Still, that posting is misleading.
you truly are dumb rofl
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On October 21 2012 11:24 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 11:22 m4inbrain wrote:
Yeah, right. I didn't even see the first posting. Didn't need to Evidently you did because then you wouldn't have looked like an idiot.
As far as the development of events is concerned. You just withheld your player's statement. You've stated that you are hoping to time it perfectly so that Jessica won't be able to respond to them. I think that's really not very honorable on your part.
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Hey TotalBiscuit,
Please accept my apologies on behalf of those numb skulls that don't know how to read and make up even more drama about PR conspiracies.
We're not all that dense. Best of luck on your anniversary (wink wink, nudge nudge).
Sincerely,
- The rest of TL that knows how to read -
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On October 21 2012 11:28 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 11:24 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 21 2012 11:22 m4inbrain wrote:
Yeah, right. I didn't even see the first posting. Didn't need to Evidently you did because then you wouldn't have looked like an idiot. As far as the development of events is concerned. You just withheld your player's statement. You've stated that you are hoping to time it perfectly so that Jessica won't be able to respond to them. I think that's really not very honorable on your part.
Wait.... what? ROFL are you for real?
This thread is pathetic I've had enough. I wish people could be banned for having iq's lower than 50.
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On October 21 2012 11:28 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 11:24 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 21 2012 11:22 m4inbrain wrote:
Yeah, right. I didn't even see the first posting. Didn't need to Evidently you did because then you wouldn't have looked like an idiot. As far as the development of events is concerned. You just withheld your player's statement. You've stated that you are hoping to time it perfectly so that Jessica won't be able to respond to them. I think that's really not very honorable on your part.
I wouldn't have thought someone with 5,000 posts would be so prone to lying, but apparently they are.
That is not what I stated AT ALL. What I actually said is very easy to find via my posting history.
So long story short, quit lying like a child, it's embarrassing to read. If you twisted my words anymore they'd get dizzy.
Some of you are fucking crazy, it's as simple as that. The reason we release statements is that interacting with people like you in the community is headache inducing and makes me want to punch a kitten.
User was warned for this post
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On October 21 2012 11:29 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 11:28 Xiphos wrote:On October 21 2012 11:24 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 21 2012 11:22 m4inbrain wrote:
Yeah, right. I didn't even see the first posting. Didn't need to Evidently you did because then you wouldn't have looked like an idiot. As far as the development of events is concerned. You just withheld your player's statement. You've stated that you are hoping to time it perfectly so that Jessica won't be able to respond to them. I think that's really not very honorable on your part. Wait.... what? ROFL are you for real? This thread is pathetic I've had enough. I wish people could be banned for having iq's lower than 50.
That's what it looks like:
On October 21 2012 10:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 10:48 Weirdkid wrote:
Hope you all can resolve this issue soon and maybe have an extended wedding anniversary celebration or something to relax and have some time for one another.
Personally i'm actually quite surprised you'd be responding beyond what is required (e.g. Crank is releasing a statement and the reasons for the delay), considering you probably already know how the internet mob is like haha. But i guess maybe love for esports might be a strong motivator I love eSports and hate dumb people. Potent cocktail. We tried to just do the whole "he's going to release a statement" and got accused of PR bullshit and deliberately timing the statement so Jessica couldn't respond to it. Yeah, that's the community in a nutshell when it comes to dealing with drama. Nice people, until this kind of thing happens then they become sharks.
+ stop raging, its getting really embarrassing on your part. Why don't you try to stop using Ad homineum to your peers and try to justify yourself on the argument itself.
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On October 21 2012 11:32 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 11:29 NovemberstOrm wrote:On October 21 2012 11:28 Xiphos wrote:On October 21 2012 11:24 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 21 2012 11:22 m4inbrain wrote:
Yeah, right. I didn't even see the first posting. Didn't need to Evidently you did because then you wouldn't have looked like an idiot. As far as the development of events is concerned. You just withheld your player's statement. You've stated that you are hoping to time it perfectly so that Jessica won't be able to respond to them. I think that's really not very honorable on your part. Wait.... what? ROFL are you for real? This thread is pathetic I've had enough. I wish people could be banned for having iq's lower than 50. That's what it looks like: Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 10:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:On October 21 2012 10:48 Weirdkid wrote:
Hope you all can resolve this issue soon and maybe have an extended wedding anniversary celebration or something to relax and have some time for one another.
Personally i'm actually quite surprised you'd be responding beyond what is required (e.g. Crank is releasing a statement and the reasons for the delay), considering you probably already know how the internet mob is like haha. But i guess maybe love for esports might be a strong motivator I love eSports and hate dumb people. Potent cocktail. We tried to just do the whole "he's going to release a statement" and got accused of PR bullshit and deliberately timing the statement so Jessica couldn't respond to it. Yeah, that's the community in a nutshell when it comes to dealing with drama. Nice people, until this kind of thing happens then they become sharks.
...Got accused of. Got accused of. Holy shit.
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