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On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing
And the whole thing shows what? That she took care of him with physical needs, not what Alicia was talking about. It may be splitting hairs, but Alicia doesn't deserve this crap based on he said she said.
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On October 19 2012 01:53 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing Sorry but I don't understand korean. May I ask who gave out the news that she asked liquid,fnatic and dignitas? Her or the respective teams coach?
She disclosed emails
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On October 19 2012 01:54 Ansinjunger wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing And the whole thing shows what? That she took care of him with physical needs, not what Alicia was talking about. It may be splitting hairs, but Alicia doesn't deserve this crap based on he said she said.
Sure he doesnt deserve crap for being a diva that wants jessica to pick him up all the time... Dude its a 40 min ride from incheon to seoul and the ride costs 5000 won max
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On October 19 2012 01:56 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:54 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing And the whole thing shows what? That she took care of him with physical needs, not what Alicia was talking about. It may be splitting hairs, but Alicia doesn't deserve this crap based on he said she said. Sure he doesnt deserve crap for being a diva that wants jessica to pick him up all the time... Dude its a 40 min ride from incheon to seoul and the ride costs 5000 won max
LOL, your first line is funny and I have no idea why. Good lord, a diva that wants a specific person to pick him up all the time.
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On October 19 2012 01:53 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing If you're going to post a korean twitter link, at least translate it for us.  Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:53 farnham wrote:
Has it been confirmed that it was only two weeks? I've read conflicting reports on the actual time that elapsed. According to jessica it was 10 month
I've read that, and Won's rebuttal that it was only a matter of weeks, does anyone know how long it actually was?[/QUOTE]
Unlike to some good hearted people on this forum that translate articles for free only to receive hate by TL members I dont agree with such conditions
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On October 19 2012 01:53 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing If you're going to post a korean twitter link, at least translate it for us. Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:53 farnham wrote:
Has it been confirmed that it was only two weeks? I've read conflicting reports on the actual time that elapsed. According to jessica it was 10 month
I've read that, and Won's rebuttal that it was only a matter of weeks, does anyone know how long it actually was?[/QUOTE]
According to Won, we can check the players interviews to see of they thanked anyone outside their team.
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On October 19 2012 01:57 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:56 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:54 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing And the whole thing shows what? That she took care of him with physical needs, not what Alicia was talking about. It may be splitting hairs, but Alicia doesn't deserve this crap based on he said she said. Sure he doesnt deserve crap for being a diva that wants jessica to pick him up all the time... Dude its a 40 min ride from incheon to seoul and the ride costs 5000 won max LOL, your first line is funny and I have no idea why. Good lord, a diva that wants a specific person to pick him up all the time.
thats what alicia did. He admitted it too
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On October 19 2012 01:56 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:54 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing And the whole thing shows what? That she took care of him with physical needs, not what Alicia was talking about. It may be splitting hairs, but Alicia doesn't deserve this crap based on he said she said. Sure he doesnt deserve crap for being a diva that wants jessica to pick him up all the time... Dude its a 40 min ride from incheon to seoul and the ride costs 5000 won max
We lack complete knowledge of the situation to make those judgments fairly.
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On October 19 2012 01:59 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:57 ImNightmare wrote:On October 19 2012 01:56 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:54 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing And the whole thing shows what? That she took care of him with physical needs, not what Alicia was talking about. It may be splitting hairs, but Alicia doesn't deserve this crap based on he said she said. Sure he doesnt deserve crap for being a diva that wants jessica to pick him up all the time... Dude its a 40 min ride from incheon to seoul and the ride costs 5000 won max LOL, your first line is funny and I have no idea why. Good lord, a diva that wants a specific person to pick him up all the time. thats what alicia did. He admitted it too
I know but I like your wording. Btw, is alicia in a team now?
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On October 19 2012 01:59 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:57 ImNightmare wrote:On October 19 2012 01:56 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:54 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing And the whole thing shows what? That she took care of him with physical needs, not what Alicia was talking about. It may be splitting hairs, but Alicia doesn't deserve this crap based on he said she said. Sure he doesnt deserve crap for being a diva that wants jessica to pick him up all the time... Dude its a 40 min ride from incheon to seoul and the ride costs 5000 won max LOL, your first line is funny and I have no idea why. Good lord, a diva that wants a specific person to pick him up all the time. thats what alicia did. He admitted it too
In the interview he admitted to not liking to take cabs to and from the airport and paying for it himself. Jessica is the only one who said anything about people other than Cella picking him up
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I don't have an opinion on the Slayers vs eSF issue, but reading Jessica's statement that was only one of the reasons for disbanding the team. All other issues are clearly internal affairs and I'm puzzled why Jessica takes almost no accountability for any of the problems with Crank, MMA and manager J. In all cases she's trying really hard to find the explanation outside of her managerial decisions, while the reason for most of that happening imho is just one. Being passionate about what you do doesn't mean you are doing a good job. Jessica allowed J to get the influence he had, by trusting him a very information sensitive task (negotiating with sponsors) after what? A couple months running the teams twitter account? That sounds really strange to me. Even after the situation snowballing out of her control she doesn't seem to take responsibility for what happened inside her own team with the players she is supposed to manage and control.
Maybe she is in the right in her case vs eSF, I don't know, but for someone having the responsibility to manage the team and her players, I expected her to at least take some accountability for what happened inside the team house.
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On October 19 2012 01:54 Ansinjunger wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing And the whole thing shows what? That she took care of him with physical needs, not what Alicia was talking about. It may be splitting hairs, but Alicia doesn't deserve this crap based on he said she said.
I'm sure anyone who's ever been to Seoul can confirm that any complaints about a ride from Incheon to Seoul is, frankly, bullshit. There are friggin escalator-style moving walkways all over the Incheon airport and a subway line that takes you straight to Seoul for something like 2$ (which isn't a lot of money in Korean currency, either). The whole thing is super simple and comfortable - all of Korean public transport is, really.
The fact that he'd even mention something like "omg i wasnt picked up at the airport" just shows he's a whiny baby, and considering he's 25 years old... I don't even know what else to say. Can't be surprised about him complaining that Jessica is 'too harsh' to players who lose in GSTL if he can't take a friggin' subway by himself...
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On October 19 2012 02:01 floor exercise wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 01:59 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:57 ImNightmare wrote:On October 19 2012 01:56 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:54 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing And the whole thing shows what? That she took care of him with physical needs, not what Alicia was talking about. It may be splitting hairs, but Alicia doesn't deserve this crap based on he said she said. Sure he doesnt deserve crap for being a diva that wants jessica to pick him up all the time... Dude its a 40 min ride from incheon to seoul and the ride costs 5000 won max LOL, your first line is funny and I have no idea why. Good lord, a diva that wants a specific person to pick him up all the time. thats what alicia did. He admitted it too In the interview he admitted to not liking to take cabs to and from the airport and paying for it himself. Jessica is the only one who said anything about people other than Cella picking him up
This whole thing is so dumb I donno wtf to say:
"I want Cella to pick me up!"
"You are fired!"
That's basically all we have now except Jessica's weird threat...
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On October 19 2012 02:01 disciple wrote:
I don't have an opinion on the Slayers vs eSF issue, but reading Jessica's statement that was only one of the reasons for disbanding the team. All other issues are clearly internal affairs and I'm puzzled why Jessica takes almost no accountability for any of the problems with Crank, MMA and manager J. In all cases she's trying really hard to find the explanation outside of her managerial decisions, while the reason for most of that happening imho is just one. Being passionate about what you do doesn't mean you are doing a good job. Jessica allowed J to get the influence he had, by trusting him a very information sensitive task (negotiating with sponsors) after what? A couple months running the teams twitter account? That sounds really strange to me. Even after the situation snowballing out of her control she doesn't seem to take responsibility for what happened inside her own team with the players she is supposed to manage and control.
Maybe she is in the right in her case vs eSF, I don't know, but for someone having the responsibility to manage the team and her players, I expected her to at least take some accountability for what happened inside the team house.
Now come to think of it, who the fuck is manager J and why the hell does he have so much influence on the team if his jobs involves sponsers and next to no requirement for interaction with the players. :/
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On October 19 2012 02:03 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 02:01 floor exercise wrote:On October 19 2012 01:59 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:57 ImNightmare wrote:On October 19 2012 01:56 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:54 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:51 farnham wrote:On October 19 2012 01:41 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 19 2012 01:34 farnham wrote:
So jessica actively tried to find places for mma.. She asked liquid, fnatic and dignitas too. People raelly need to stop the mma, alicia, esf are great guys and jessica is a crazy woman theory... Where are you getting this? News broke out that MMA wanted a new team, and she asked prices that were too high, as if to say, "fat chance." Then for whatever reason, she lowered it to nothing for TL. That doesn't add up. Why not nothing for the other teams. And I thought I debunked the Alicia being a liar thing, if you actually look at the twitter dates and Alicia's actual words, but let's go with hearsay instead. http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48819You commented on a few tweets not on the whole thing And the whole thing shows what? That she took care of him with physical needs, not what Alicia was talking about. It may be splitting hairs, but Alicia doesn't deserve this crap based on he said she said. Sure he doesnt deserve crap for being a diva that wants jessica to pick him up all the time... Dude its a 40 min ride from incheon to seoul and the ride costs 5000 won max LOL, your first line is funny and I have no idea why. Good lord, a diva that wants a specific person to pick him up all the time. thats what alicia did. He admitted it too In the interview he admitted to not liking to take cabs to and from the airport and paying for it himself. Jessica is the only one who said anything about people other than Cella picking him up This whole thing is so dumb I donno wtf to say: "I want Cella to pick me up!" "You are fired!" That's basically all we have now except Jessica's weird threat...
A lot of the petty stuff Jessica brings up is really strange. Like disciple said she comes off as not wanting to take any accountability for anything. For every issue she has an excuse for why it's not her fault on any level
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On October 19 2012 02:03 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 02:01 disciple wrote:
I don't have an opinion on the Slayers vs eSF issue, but reading Jessica's statement that was only one of the reasons for disbanding the team. All other issues are clearly internal affairs and I'm puzzled why Jessica takes almost no accountability for any of the problems with Crank, MMA and manager J. In all cases she's trying really hard to find the explanation outside of her managerial decisions, while the reason for most of that happening imho is just one. Being passionate about what you do doesn't mean you are doing a good job. Jessica allowed J to get the influence he had, by trusting him a very information sensitive task (negotiating with sponsors) after what? A couple months running the teams twitter account? That sounds really strange to me. Even after the situation snowballing out of her control she doesn't seem to take responsibility for what happened inside her own team with the players she is supposed to manage and control.
Maybe she is in the right in her case vs eSF, I don't know, but for someone having the responsibility to manage the team and her players, I expected her to at least take some accountability for what happened inside the team house. Now come to think of it, who the fuck is manager J and why the hell does he have so much influence on the team if his jobs involves sponsers and next to no requirement for interaction with the players. :/
Its easy to poach and influence players when they hate there boss(Jessica). All he did was use that, Jessica was the one who drove them away from her in the first place, I dont see any other way a 2 month old manager can convince players of management embezzlement
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Dayum Jessica is seriously taking down as many people as she can with her............
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its all written like some kind of soap opera drama -- drama has a strange way of following the people that welcome it
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On October 19 2012 02:09 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Dayum Jessica is seriously taking down as many people as she can with her............
her main statement seems to be that everyone who was on Slayers and especially everyone who was on another team are killing esports and she knows all their dirty secrets... o.O
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