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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
October 18 2012 01:58 GMT
#2121
yawn.. getting tired of all these dramas. im done with sc2.. thank god dota2 is on TL
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
megacrack
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia171 Posts
October 18 2012 01:59 GMT
#2122
On October 18 2012 10:14 CP-Jun wrote:
Recently PlayXP found out bunch of evidences which disputed what Alicia said.. Jessica did really cared for them.. and acted like a mother for him..

http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4190982&page=2
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4190968

rnt u slayers_mins translator? i min was the first sc2 player that i knew from his streams..
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
October 18 2012 02:02 GMT
#2123
On October 18 2012 10:58 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote:
yawn.. getting tired of all these dramas. im done with sc2.. thank god dota2 is on TL

Hah, it shall be even more exciting for you/
And you clearly never pay attention to the dota2 community before.
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
October 18 2012 02:03 GMT
#2124
On October 18 2012 10:54 TaKemE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 10:52 skatblast wrote:
i would have done the same thing as MMA, Jessica is a over-controlling woman with a power trip, and very dramatic at that. Shes the kind of person that wont go down with bringing you with her. Id avoid her like the plague too


What do you base that on? and did you even bother to read what all this is about?


I base it on the 20 different dramatic moments shes had in the last year and a half, and how she always acts like she has done no wrong. Also the fact that nobody actually needs to know any of this yet she decided to tell everybody everything and anything.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 18 2012 02:04 GMT
#2125
seems like there are no winners here

too bad this couldn't have been avoided somehow
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
October 18 2012 02:08 GMT
#2126
Mad props to Polt and Genius for going to TSL and Slayers when they needed help. Polt just became one of my favorite players and I hope that Boxer brings Genius to SKT.

In fact, there are a couple players I see who could join SKT and make the first team right away - Genius and Miya.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
October 18 2012 02:09 GMT
#2127
This looks like thread of the year, and still just the beginning.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 02:15:02
October 18 2012 02:09 GMT
#2128
It seems there was room for controversy, what I did not mean that outcasting them was something petty, I meant that it was petty of people to criticize after only hearing one side of the story. Practices are always done after calculating self-interest. Even if you help a player, you don't know when you might run into the player in a tournament so you have to hide your main style. Let's say Team A and Team B are having a match. If you're closer to Team A than Team B, yet Team A is the harder opponent to face, you help Team B. Helping practice is not a matter of being close or not close. It's up the the individual player and the team. It appears that it seemed like I admitted that there was a training embargo, but that's not what I meant.

-- Ace's new post translated.

Will like to say I've been going through a lot of past interviews, and MOST teams seem to only practice within their own team. The one exception is Prime, who seems to have practice partners all over the place, but teams like FXO, ST, MVP, IM, and TSL seem to practice mainly with themselves. Re: ST in particular, they seem to do mostly in-team practice, and if they do go to another team for practice partners, it seems to either be Sting or NSHS (though Hack seems to practice with everyone).

My rough tally:
+ Show Spoiler +
Prime
Maru: IMFirst, FXOTear, Protoss teammates. (IM and Prime)
Creator: Gumiho, Sting, Dream (MVP and FXO)
B4: a "friend"
MKP: Salmosa, Aria, Lucy (all Prime)
Creator: Sting and Hack (ST and teamless)

ST
Curious: Squirtle, Parting, Avenge, Life (all ST)
Squirtle: NSH_Sculp
Life: teammates and Hack; Sculp, Sting, Terran teammates; Parting
Hack: Avege, Han Jae Woon, Parting
Sparta: Pet, Hello, Life, Curious (all ST, no idea who Hello is)
Bomber: "Terran players on ladder"
Hack: Son, Life, Curious, Whale, Sirius, Golden

TSL
Polt: Shine, Punisher, Inori (all TSL)
Hyun: Center (TSL); doesn't say
Shine: teammates + Major
Symbol: Inori, Cyrano

MVP
Vampire: teammates; teammates; teammates
DRG: teammates
Sniper: doesn't say
Keen: doesn't say
Finale: Monster, Sniper

FXO
Sirius: nameless Terrans, Lucky, Leenock, JKS; teammates
Gumiho: JKS, Lucky (only FXO)
Leenock: doesn't say
asd: "a lot of Protoss players"

IM
Mvp: teammates; teammates + Yonghwa + First

SlayerS
Ryung: doesn't say
Genius: doesn't say


Obviously there is an interview bias; if players are not supposed to practice with specific teams, then obviously those players would not mention the team-affiliated players in their interviews. Aka I collected those data points for fun, but have at it, I guess.
GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
October 18 2012 02:10 GMT
#2129
I think that the kids on Slayers can't handle taking orders from a girl...
Thus they went with "j" starting the whole decline in trust and loss of sponsors.
They obviously didn't take Jessica seriously as an owner. They would never think about running around behind or blaming unreasonable problems on, say, Coach Park.
High Diamond/ Low Masters :^)
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46511 Posts
October 18 2012 02:10 GMT
#2130
Wow, OP updating a lot!

After reading how badly Ganzi screwed over Coach Hirai from IM, and seeing how even Boxer backed up Hirai and not explicitly Jessica, I really feel bad for Hirai and lose a lot of respect for Ganzi.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
October 18 2012 02:11 GMT
#2131
On October 18 2012 11:09 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
It seems there was room for controversy, what I did not mean that outcasting them was something petty, I meant that it was petty of people to criticize after only hearing one side of the story. Practices are always done after calculating self-interest. Even if you help a player, you don't know when you might run into the player in a tournament so you have to hide your main style. Let's say Team A and Team B are having a match. If you're closer to Team A than Team B, yet Team A is the harder opponent to face, you help Team B. Helping practice is not a matter of being close or not close. It's up the the individual player and the team. It appears that it seemed like I admitted that there was a training embargo, but that's not what I meant.

-- Ace's new post translated.

Will like to say I've been going through a lot of past interviews, and MOST teams seem to only practice within their own team. The one exception is Prime, who seems to have practice partners all over the place, but teams like FXO, ST, MVP, IM, and TSL seem to practice mainly with themselves. Re: ST in particular, they seem to do mostly in-team practice, and if they do go to another team for practice partners, it seems to either be Sting or NSHS.


doesnt even matter what he says, his coach already said there was one. ace is just trying to spin it like it was self-interest lol what a joke
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 18 2012 02:12 GMT
#2132
On October 18 2012 11:11 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 11:09 babylon wrote:
It seems there was room for controversy, what I did not mean that outcasting them was something petty, I meant that it was petty of people to criticize after only hearing one side of the story. Practices are always done after calculating self-interest. Even if you help a player, you don't know when you might run into the player in a tournament so you have to hide your main style. Let's say Team A and Team B are having a match. If you're closer to Team A than Team B, yet Team A is the harder opponent to face, you help Team B. Helping practice is not a matter of being close or not close. It's up the the individual player and the team. It appears that it seemed like I admitted that there was a training embargo, but that's not what I meant.

-- Ace's new post translated.

Will like to say I've been going through a lot of past interviews, and MOST teams seem to only practice within their own team. The one exception is Prime, who seems to have practice partners all over the place, but teams like FXO, ST, MVP, IM, and TSL seem to practice mainly with themselves. Re: ST in particular, they seem to do mostly in-team practice, and if they do go to another team for practice partners, it seems to either be Sting or NSHS.


doesnt even matter what he says, his coach already said there was one. ace is just trying to spin it like it was self-interest lol what a joke

As far as I understand, what Ace is saying is that there was a practice embargo, but that the official embargo was lifted after a month, and after a month, it was a team/player decision not to practice with others.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
October 18 2012 02:15 GMT
#2133
Boxer has not had his retirement ceremony (or do you only have that when u retire as a coach too?), and it's already been a while

Does this mean he is still considering possibly going back to playing at some point?

Also, he previously explained how he had not been practicing/taking care of himself as well as he should have, and thus his lower than desired play level. I wonder if this drama stuff was part of it at the time (since these kinds of concerns have been with slayers pretty much since it started as a team)
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
October 18 2012 02:19 GMT
#2134
What I'm more interested in is the bullying issue that Slayers' players receive at foreign events. If that is true it is really disgusting. Also how Sleep was bullied even though he is not even on Slayers and only staying temporarily at the team house
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 18 2012 02:20 GMT
#2135
Thanks for the updates. Wow a lot of things happening with the disbandment
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
October 18 2012 02:22 GMT
#2136
oh god this sucks
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
BaconofWar
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States369 Posts
October 18 2012 02:22 GMT
#2137
I'll be honest. This story sounds like it'd make a kickass soap opera.
Well, C9 is the best right now
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
October 18 2012 02:24 GMT
#2138
How does this affect MVP if they lose to SlayerS when SlayerS is disbanding after their match anyway? Does the other team of the deciding match get a walk-over or does MVP get a third chance?--not that I like SlayerS' chances anyway.
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
October 18 2012 02:25 GMT
#2139
On October 18 2012 11:10 GoodSirTets wrote:
I think that the kids on Slayers can't handle taking orders from a girl...
Thus they went with "j" starting the whole decline in trust and loss of sponsors.
They obviously didn't take Jessica seriously as an owner. They would never think about running around behind or blaming unreasonable problems on, say, Coach Park.



internally within the team a least. boxer straightened them out for as long as he could but once he got injured and had to leave the house to seek treatment, shit hit the fan.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
October 18 2012 02:25 GMT
#2140
Holy cow, what a mess. Hopefully things shake out and those who deserve punishment get punished.
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