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landonious
United States60 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33360 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:22 Waxangel wrote: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=127949&db=issue A Fomos article has what appears to be a preliminary statement from eSF chair Mr. Won (also Startale head coach). It seems unlikely that this is all the eSF has to say, and more will probably follow. But for now, here are the statements from the Fomos article. "We have things to say as well... ...we admit to a degree that there was friction with SlayerS, but it's not something over a couple of days, so if one side comes out emotionally, the problem can't help but expand. It's unfortunate that this situation occurred." "If we really wanted to ostracize SlayerS, we could have excluded them very thoroughly, but that's not the case at all. Instead, we did a lot together, and worked to treat them the same as other teams even though they were not part of the federation... ...there was a time where [players were] ordered not to practice [with SlayerS players], but it was only for a short period. There is no ban now. At the time, SlayerS kept acting selfishly, so the teams had no choice but to cooperate and penalize them." And here's the response http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4190932&search=3&search_pos=&q= [...omitted...] It was temporary? The NASL Season 3 Finals were in July. [Note: She may mean Season 1 or Season 2, given the other dates in the post] The penalty on our team started after the preliminaries [Note: she may mean regular season] were over, so it must have began at latest by June? Maybe even before then, but I forget the exact date when the preliminaries ended. I knew that it was refusal to practice, but I didn't think it would be so severe. I decided that I couldn't just let it be, and went to talk to coach Won about the serious ostracizing problem in December of last year (we moved the team house on Dec 28th, and I met him in Yeo-ui-Do where our team house was then). There, I first informed him of our team's stance. You told me without shame, that it's cheap of you to do so, but you would resort to it to sanction SlayerS. I couldn't get you to remove the ban, and I continued to appeal it after we moved our team house. In February, Ryung needed to prepare for a TvT, but I heard that he couldn't find any Terrans. (At the time, Genius had practiced with MMA for the semi-finals, but when Ryung asked MVP players for practice in TvT, he couldn't get help). Our team's Terrans had a lot of different things on the schedule, so I told him to practice with his friends on other teams, but I learned that we were still being ostracized and banned from practice. I gave final notice to Mr. Won who as at tournament in the USA at that time, and I finally received an email on March 7th that it had been lifted. Temporary? That's at least 10 months by rudimentary calculation. Do you want me to reveal the truth? Head Coach Won. I told you clearly, it was something that a Startale player told one of our players very recently. For whatever reason, acting like a bully can't be forgiven. | ||
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Nostalgia.NA
32 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:30 Ikris wrote: How did the community react? It was only poster a few hours ago, how could something have already happened? Boy, I'm so behind this whole thing. Ace mentions that Coach Won told the players to not practice with Slayers, which is what a lot of people were criticizing Coach Won about since he was head of ESF and Slayers is claiming there was a training embargo and outcasting of Slayers by the ESF. But Ace's post made it look like he made that incident like nothing big by saying the embargo order was taken away within a month, and that people were criticizing Coach Won over petty things. | ||
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gengka
Malaysia461 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:35 Xiphos wrote: Hey man, BoxeR wasn't going to back to progaming regardless of SlayerS' fate. Only reason why Kespa was special is because of their governmental influences with AirForce Ace so that players will have a brighter future in progaming. Now that Ace have disbanded because of StarCraft 2's failure, Kespa is just any other organization that is dwindling in shape. According to Jessica, Boxer was planning to come back playing around HOTS released but the Slayers drama drained all his passion away. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:11 Cubu wrote: He joined SKT a while ago, one of the most successful teams in BW, now a sc2 team. He is probably happy right now. More importantly, it's also the team he created first. | ||
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Nostalgia.NA
32 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:41 CodeskyE wrote: You're wrong "He was preparing to return before the release of Heart of the Swarm but at that time he was tried to stop playing" Please read OP properly. Dat gramatical error x_ x. Fixed. | ||
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Tsutchie
Australia951 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:44 Dfgj wrote: More importantly, it's also the team he created first. night and day. when Oov beat Boxer in the OSL finals, Boxer cried and OOv said that it was the worse feeling he has ever had for winning the OSL and never wants to do that again. contrast that with these slayers players... | ||
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itsjuspeter
United States668 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:47 Tsutchie wrote: night and day. when Oov beat Boxer in the OSL finals, Boxer cried and OOv said that it was the worse feeling he has ever had for winning the OSL and never wants to do that again. contrast that with these slayers players... God you just hit me where it hurts... these "sons" of Boxer should of been honored to even of been called as such, they don't deserve it. I'm 100% glad boxer is back in SKT, where he is truly cared and appreciated. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:41 CodeskyE wrote: You're wrong "He was preparing to return before the release of Heart of the Swarm but at that time he was tried to stop playing" Please read OP properly. Nope, you didn't pay attention to 2nd 1/2 of the sentence. Please read fully. | ||
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
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bucckevin
858 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:41 anrimayu wrote: According to Jessica's post, the practice ban went on for at least 10 months. In Blizzard's term, 10 month definitely qualifies as short period, or "soon". The practice ban on SlayerS and TSL lasted one month. TSL patched up the relationship while SlayerS still refused to join ESG. The "unofficial" ban on SlayerS was indefinite. | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:49 itsjuspeter wrote: God you just hit me where it hurts... these "sons" of Boxer should of been honored to even of been called as such, they don't deserve it. I'm 100% glad boxer is back in SKT, where he is truly cared and appreciated. Completely agree. I can never, EVER imagine Fantasy treat BoxeR that way, nor anyone on SKT or the KeSPA side. Where did those SlayerS player get there damn ego from? | ||
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pivor
Poland198 Posts
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Supert0fu
United States499 Posts
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:52 skatblast wrote: i would have done the same thing as MMA, Jessica is a over-controlling woman with a power trip, and very dramatic at that. Shes the kind of person that wont go down with bringing you with her. Id avoid her like the plague too What do you base that on? and did you even bother to read what all this is about? | ||
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BasilForSkin
United States115 Posts
I don't know why it developed, she seems in the right here and many other times. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:49 itsjuspeter wrote: God you just hit me where it hurts... these "sons" of Boxer should of been honored to even of been called as such, they don't deserve it. I'm 100% glad boxer is back in SKT, where he is truly cared and appreciated. Oh please, MMA looked as happy as he did after being HongUn (when the MMA incident broke out) when he beat Boxer at MLG Anaheim. If you don't know what I mean, he looked unhappy. It was also a big deal when Taeja's final match in up and downs, which wouldn't do anything for Taeja himself, got Boxer into Code S one last time. | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:42 Waxangel wrote: And here's the response http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4190932&search=3&search_pos=&q= [...omitted...] It was temporary? The NASL Season 3 Finals were in July. [Note: She may mean Season 1 or Season 2, given the other dates in the post] The penalty on our team started after the preliminaries [Note: she may mean regular season] were over, so it must have began at latest by June? Maybe even before then, but I forget the exact date when the preliminaries ended. I knew that it was refusal to practice, but I didn't think it would be so severe. I decided that I couldn't just let it be, and went to talk to coach Won about the serious ostracizing problem in December of last year (we moved the team house on Dec 28th, and I met him in Yeo-ui-Do where our team house was then). There, I first informed him of our team's stance. You told me without shame, that it's cheap of you to do so, but you would resort to it to sanction SlayerS. I couldn't get you to remove the ban, and I continued to appeal it after we moved our team house. In February, Ryung needed to prepare for a TvT, but I heard that he couldn't find any Terrans. (At the time, Genius had practiced with MMA for the semi-finals, but when Ryung asked MVP players for practice in TvT, he couldn't get help). Our team's Terrans had a lot of different things on the schedule, so I told him to practice with his friends on other teams, but I learned that we were still being ostracized and banned from practice. I gave final notice to Mr. Won who as at tournament in the USA at that time, and I finally received an email on March 7th that it had been lifted. Temporary? That's at least 10 months by rudimentary calculation. Do you want me to reveal the truth? Head Coach Won. I told you clearly, it was something that a Startale player told one of our players very recently. For whatever reason, acting like a bully can't be forgiven. WTF At the end of everything fucking thing she wrights there is a threat to someone @_@ EVILLLLLLLL Kill it before it breeds! User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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CodeskyE
United States777 Posts
On October 18 2012 10:51 Xiphos wrote: Nope, you didn't pay attention to 2nd 1/2 of the sentence. Please read fully. I think you're the one that needs to pay attention. I underlined it for you. BoxeR wanted to come back before HotS but this whole drama mess made him change his mind and quit. "Boxer's Change of Heart First, we were very hurt to hear the contracts be called slave contracts. Boxer knew how hard it was for players over ten years ago, and he tried to create the best environment possible for his players. He received a lot of criticism when he left his origins for StarCraft2, but it was his dream to continue as a player and grow new players for the future of esports. Thus, he was crushed when he heard that from MMA, a player he had taken close care of. At the time, Boxer had been preparing to return as a player before the release of Heart of the Swarm, but he changed his mind towards quitting the game. Boxer was quickly losing his passion as player and manager, and it was tough on me as I watched it happen. He was teaching the players his 10 + years of experience in and outside the game, but the players weren't readily accepting it. So I suggested something that would help him, help T1, and perhaps motivate the remaining players on SlayerS. After thinking about it for a few days, Boxer decided that would be the best course of action. " | ||
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wozzot
United States1227 Posts
If this only involved the players, that would be one thing, but I don't know whether I want to follow a Starcraft 2 scene that's run by a bunch of big babies who would rather point fingers to save face than apologize | ||
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