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Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
September 24 2012 20:33 GMT
#81
LOL this is pretty pathetic.... wonder who of them made the first step (probably Vera why would Deathangel suggest a deal like that to a random girl)...

its funny because I played "both" of them in the past months a few times and now thinking that it was just Deathangel acting different makes me lol
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 24 2012 20:33 GMT
#82
On September 25 2012 05:32 AnalThermometer wrote:
Lol @ the serious business replies to this on the first page. In the end it's $60 down the drain, I mean that's like one night of drinking.

What tickles me is that she probably would have managed to disguise herself as a "knowledgable" coach for much longer if KawaiiRice didn't post this. Also, I'm now wondering what won't DeathAngel do for some booty.


I highly doubt deathangel was in this for booty. It was power leveling services being sold here.
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Takasu
Profile Joined May 2011
United States63 Posts
September 24 2012 20:33 GMT
#83
Nice work Kawaii/gretorp/desrow!
Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
September 24 2012 20:33 GMT
#84
For all the info in OP, I still don't know what the fraud is, is it two people (a player and a manager/front) posing as one person?
Never even heard of them to begin with, so don't really care much but the concept is smart ^^
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
September 24 2012 20:34 GMT
#85
On September 25 2012 05:26 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 05:24 AngryMag wrote:
I always wonder how nerds come up with this kind of stuff, I mean where is the motivation for this kind of fraud? We are talking about some hundred bucks from showmatches...

Thanks@ Kawaii and all the other guys involved for putting in some serious work


dafaq.

1. insults part community
2. says no motivation for fraud
3. thanks KR and others for putting in serious work, despite just saying that there was no motivation for fraud and being skeptical of exactly what KR suggested was happening


nah, there is no objective motivation for this kind of stuff, why fake an online persona? The bucks involved are minimal, why do such shit for such a little reward apart from "inet fame"?

Not sceptical about KR, as he clearly documented his steps and showed clear proof, I just wonder about VeraLynns motivation.. Again why do you fake an online persona? I always wondererd about stuff like that, there is very little to gain apart from online reputation, if this is enough (like this case shows) I would deem that pretty nerdy, nothing to do with the community which just happens to play at all levels, but doesn't come up with shit like this..
grungust
Profile Joined September 2010
United States325 Posts
September 24 2012 20:34 GMT
#86
On September 25 2012 05:29 Scisyhp wrote:
If this is true, DeathAngel should be shunned from the community as well as Vera, his actions are no less amoral than hers.

This!

User was warned for this post
Flash 하나님
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
September 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#87
ye definitely heard something suspicious was going on
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#88
On September 25 2012 05:29 Scisyhp wrote:
If this is true, DeathAngel should be shunned from the community as well as Vera, his actions are no less amoral than hers.


If you're going to shun players from the community for being a part of account leveling services we're going to have a very long list of people being shunned.
thrill.calamiTy
Profile Joined January 2012
4 Posts
September 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#89
I feel like i should really know who VeryLyn and Deathangel are, but I know neither :/

How could this not have come to light earlier though, surely somebody can't just suddenly crop up and be a pro over night without anybody clocking on to it
TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
September 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#90
On September 25 2012 05:33 Grampz wrote:
knew this for a while


Yeah, people have been doing the "let your friend play all your games for you so you can steal all of the e-sports dollars" build since early beta.
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -Groucho Marx
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
September 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#91
I am always puzzled by behavior like this. Why would you put yourself out there like this, be this publicly engaged while committing fraud. Essentially she wanted to be caught and punished.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#92
Shit nice catches, the adverts and the hotkey changes, everything. Holy fuck.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 20:36:56
September 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#93
If this is true, fuck you VeraLynn and DeathAngel.

Hats off to you, KR. Your detective work seems very plausible.

I honestly think TL should give both players the Spades/CombatEX treatment and just permaban them from TL.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
September 24 2012 20:36 GMT
#94
Evidence seems pretty damning. Well done on the write up OP. The poster responses appeared planned as well so it seems like you guys were working on this for a while. And I liked Vera's stream
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 20:36:41
September 24 2012 20:36 GMT
#95
We really should get a pitchfork smiley for the forums...

But seriously, good job uncovering this fraud, zero tolerance for hacks, frauds and other despiccable exploiters!
Get off my lawn, young punks
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
September 24 2012 20:36 GMT
#96
On September 25 2012 05:33 Fionn wrote:
And he would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids and your Desrow!

I hope you do not mind me 'borrowing' that for future notice.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
September 24 2012 20:36 GMT
#97
Can't believe this shit happens in this community. VeraLynn and DeathAngel should be blacklisted for this.
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
September 24 2012 20:36 GMT
#98
kawaii wai u so kawaii
I miss you July ~~~ I was in PonyTales #7 wooho!
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 24 2012 20:37 GMT
#99
On September 25 2012 05:36 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Evidence seems pretty damning. Well done on the write up OP. The poster responses appeared planned as well so it seems like you guys were working on this for a while. And I liked Vera's stream

Maybe DeathAngel will start streaming for you!
grungust
Profile Joined September 2010
United States325 Posts
September 24 2012 20:37 GMT
#100
On September 25 2012 05:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 05:29 Scisyhp wrote:
If this is true, DeathAngel should be shunned from the community as well as Vera, his actions are no less amoral than hers.


If you're going to shun players from the community for being a part of account leveling services we're going to have a very long list of people being shunned.

This is not simply account leveling where the only result is a higher ranking on the ladder. He did this knowing she was able to scam money from the community with it. Again, his actions are disgusting as hers.
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