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saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
September 24 2012 20:20 GMT
#21
Not surprising at all. Just needed a major player to cast light on the issue seeing as every attempt such as "wants_to_die" got flamed into oblivion by "fans"
Callagan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States46 Posts
September 24 2012 20:20 GMT
#22
Thank you, I was afraid I wouldn't manage to get another dose of drama until at least midweek.
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
September 24 2012 20:20 GMT
#23
I dunno why you would do something like that and then expect NOT to get caught.. I mean.. Having different hotkeys? Seriously?
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
PengWin_SC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Switzerland433 Posts
September 24 2012 20:21 GMT
#24
Hi, my name is PengWin. Some of you may know me as a main caster for Z33K.TV’s casting organization. While a lot of this post may come across as a reiteration of what Badfatpanda has already said, I feel the need to make a post myself, as this is a matter that has affected me quite deeply on both a personal and professional level. Up until now, I have considered Veralynn a fantastic administrator--and a good friend--and the allegations against her are absolutely astounding. Unfortunately, as Panda said, they are practically irrefutable.

Like Badfatpanda, I have been asked not to speak publicly about this, but I’ll repeat that there is no NDA restricting me against it, and so I will make my statement. What I say in this post does not reflect the opinions of z33k.com, Z33K.TV or any of their affiliates, in any way.

Vera was a fantastic administrator. She was able to establish contacts, get events, sponsors etc. better than anyone else I have worked with in my career thus far. As a team (especially but not exclusively: Vera, Badfatpanda, Rifkin, and I), we were able to secure casting for the TSL4 qualifiers, Pokerstrategy League, and most recently, Dreamhack Valencia (among other events). I have been a part of Z33K.TV for almost 6 months now, and since Vera took over 4 months ago, the organization has shown fantastic growth.

I was not privy to the investigation of the claims against Vera, so I can't speak to those, but I will raise some points that I have observed over the past few months. The most common questions surrounding Veralynn were “When is she going to join a team?” and “When are we going to see Veralynn at a LAN?” The constant dodging of these questions with answers like, “I don’t see what a team can offer me,” and, “I’m just not ready yet,” became so common that it seemed a bit suspicious after a while. Since this revelation, other instances of somewhat odd behaviour have begun to make sense.

Furthermore, what I am experiencing most at the moment is a feeling of betrayal. Over the past 4 months, my professional relationship with Veralynn evolved into what I considered to be a close friendship. We would talk multiple times daily on both professional matters of z33ktv and just friendly banter. To say that it’s disappointing that this relationship was fundamentally built on a lie would be a gross understatement.

The evidence compiled in the OP by Kawaiirice, Badfatpanda, and anyone else who was involved is all but irrefutable. I agree that the only way for her to prove her innocence would be for her to play against DeathAngel in a 1v1 game, with cameras displaying both players’ faces and hands. It’s past the point where streaming with a webcam will cut it. Vera, if you’re reading this, I implore you to admit to your mistakes if you cannot prove your innocence. It will only go worse for you if you continue to fight this with no hope of winning.

With this post, I will be severing all ties with Z33K.TV. My team will continue to play in the Z33K.TV Proleague, excluding that I wish to have no further involvement with z33k.com or Z33K.TV. That being said, all of the casters at Z33K.TV are incredibly competent and deserve your support. While Veralynn may have been a fraud, I am confident that she was acting on her own, that nobody within Z33K.TV had any idea what was going on, and that none of the team would have condoned this had they known of it.

I have read Lane’s statement on the matter and it is clear that we have very different ideas of where to go from here, and so I will be leaving Z33K.TV immediately. I would like to thank every single one of the casters for making my time at Z33K.TV a very enjoyable one. I’ve had the opportunity to make a good number of new friends, and I wish them well in their future endeavors. Additionally, I would like to extend my thanks to everybody involved in unearthing this fraud. It was a massive amount of work, and it cannot have been easy for those who were close to Vera to work on this. Finally, I would also like to extend my apologies to Sjow, Desrow, Cytoplasm, Ziktomini, Tarson, Chanman V, Sixpoolgaming and everybody involved with the AGL Invitational. I deeply regret working with Vera for the past 4 months, and I only wish that I would have caught on sooner.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33627 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 20:21:38
September 24 2012 20:21 GMT
#25
On September 25 2012 05:13 ROOTT1 wrote:
how happy is sjow right now?


I mean, he still lost to DeathAngel....
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
September 24 2012 20:21 GMT
#26
My pitchfork is ready.

Sigh, guess I shouldn't just post that though.

It just seems like there has to be a better way of dealing with these situations than throwing the suspect into the ravenous mob that is the SC2 Community.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 24 2012 20:21 GMT
#27
wow this evidence is so carefully compiled o.O it all fits together and makes sense too which is hard to do actually, so props KR.

legitimacy and honesty should always be the right course
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MrSnibbles
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom267 Posts
September 24 2012 20:21 GMT
#28
Yes, yes.

Let the "drama" flow

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User was warned for this post
Thank you, based god.
YourBestFriend
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada92 Posts
September 24 2012 20:22 GMT
#29
ahh i see ..thx Zains..pretty lame that she would get someone to play for her..
Sc2 And Dota 2 All Day
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
September 24 2012 20:22 GMT
#30
Wow thats pretty insane. It does happen im sure for other people and im sure it will happen in the future. I have to say its great to see people are on the look out for this kind of thing and hopefully that will deter people from doing stuff like this in the future. For anyone doing this kind of thing you aren't really helping yourself and to the people leveling the accounts I understand why you would do it but it does damage your reputation.
hagga
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 20:59:04
September 24 2012 20:22 GMT
#31
Shit just got real, god damn
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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
September 24 2012 20:22 GMT
#32
On September 25 2012 05:13 Cokefreak wrote:
Another week of drama filled discussion to go through.

On September 25 2012 05:13 sekritzzz wrote:
bi-weekly bombshell by starcraft 2 is on time. Also whats with these long posts at start..... *going to read em now*


Just because bad stuff happens all the time doesn't necessarily mean this deserves to be overlooked.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 24 2012 20:23 GMT
#33
On September 25 2012 05:21 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 05:13 ROOTT1 wrote:
how happy is sjow right now?


I mean, he still lost to DeathAngel....


hahahh
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
September 24 2012 20:23 GMT
#34
On September 25 2012 05:18 KiWiKaKi wrote:
popcorn time


hehe :D But nice detective work I must say by Kawaiirice, damn!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
brokeception
Profile Joined September 2012
Congo47 Posts
September 24 2012 20:23 GMT
#35
Thanks KR for writing this up. I think it is unacceptable for a person to fake something just for money. What has this world turn to that people need to lie to make money? Can't she just go to college or hone her skills on her own?

She needs to be severely punished for this...not only suspension from z33k and SPG, but a one year IP and Global Hardware Ban from Wings of Libery and HoTS when that comes out. Also, DeathAngel needs to receive the same punishment for being an accomplice. Shit like this just hurts ESPORTS. No wonder why LoL and DotA2 are thriving while SC2 is just dying...very very slowly anyway.

But if VeraLynn is innocent, then she needs proof. I say that she and DeathAngel should be guilty until proven innocent, if that.
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
September 24 2012 20:24 GMT
#36
why would DA do this? The evidence is damning
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
September 24 2012 20:24 GMT
#37
I always wonder how nerds come up with this kind of stuff, I mean where is the motivation for this kind of fraud? We are talking about some hundred bucks from showmatches...

Thanks@ Kawaii and all the other guys involved for putting in some serious work
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 20:25:21
September 24 2012 20:24 GMT
#38
On September 25 2012 05:21 TheDougler wrote:
My pitchfork is ready.

Sigh, guess I shouldn't just post that though.

It just seems like there has to be a better way of dealing with these situations than throwing the suspect into the ravenous mob that is the SC2 Community.

I wrote the whole thing keeping in mind to use actual evidence because I didn't want this to be another stupid pitchfork drama thread.
But it's important for these things to be publicized so nobody will ever support a fraud like Vera again. Keeping it quiet does not achieve the same purpose.
@KawaiiRiceLighT
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
September 24 2012 20:25 GMT
#39
Wow my reading comprehension sucks. What is the OP trying to say? I know it's something about someone committing some sort of fraud, but I missed what the fraud actually way? Is this about maphacking or something or macros.
grungust
Profile Joined September 2010
United States325 Posts
September 24 2012 20:25 GMT
#40
This is pretty despicable considering the fact she was making money out of this. This might even be illegal?
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